Battery longevity for the Maverick hybrids.

[Darryl]

Of course a battery (or any part) CAN fail right after the warranty expires. But TYPICALLY they don’t. The technology used in the Maverick has been used since about 2012 2013 in the fusion, escape, and Lincoln MKZ. It is not uncommon for the battery to last in excess of 200,000 miles..

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[Cherokee]

The Maverick is not a PZEV. Therefore it's NOT covered by the California mandated warranty. I actually posted the law in this thread. He didn't ALLOW anyone to screw him.

Ok got it. Did not know about PZEV ,
Should have known since it was California.

Again from what I see long term ownership of a hybrid after a battery replacement eats up the fuel savings.
I wonder what trade in value you’ll get at 90,000-100,000 miles with the dealers and customers knowing the odds are increasing of a $4,000-$6,000 battery replacement within in the next few years.

 

[Suzukiridr14]

$6k to replace a $2k hybrid battery sounds about right for a dealership disservice center.
BUT, there is a FACTORY 8yr/100k warranty on the battery. A dealership that is not honoring the factory warranty needs to be reported. File a complaint with FORD regional service manager, not the dealership (they are just a private business with a contract allowing them to sell/service Ford vehicles, as I like to say; 7/11 is not owned by Doritos).

It should be noted that this battery lasting that long is pretty good, most 12v starter batteries go 4-6 years before you need to replace them. I've had a couple that last 8+ years.
Since the hybrid battery is barely larger than the capacity of an average 12v starter battery, 1kWh = 84ah @ 12v, it should not be a very expensive battery. Used rebuilt ones are around $1000, and new ones bought from Ford are $2200-2800 depending on the source.

I believe the forum member who asked this question has 130K on his truck. He passed the 8yr/100K warranty.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

I assume the Mav hybrid is like 90% of other hybrids; it still drives just fine with a dead drive battery. The only difference is you get worse mileage. Also, the lifespan of the hybrid batteries is greatly underestimated. I know someone with a 15 y/o Prius that still has 70% battery capacity, at almost 300k miles. But of course there are other people who have a 3 year old hybrid with a dead drive battery, too. I'd be more concerned about the sensors and integration with the drivetrain than the battery itself.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

I assume the Mav hybrid is like 90% of other hybrids; it still drives just fine with a dead drive battery. The only difference is you get worse mileage. Also, the lifespan of the hybrid batteries is greatly underestimated. I know someone with a 15 y/o Prius that still has 70% battery capacity, at almost 300k miles. But of course there are other people who have a 3 year old hybrid with a dead drive battery, too. I'd be more concerned about the sensors and integration with the drivetrain than the battery itself.

But that is a Toyota? They have a great proven track record and basically invented this hybrid system and eCVT. Ford got approval to use it and has made there own tweeks on it. One being the DC to DC converter. But this all is Toyota's design. Originally the CVT was belt driven similar to a 2 stroke minibike.

 

[TROGDOR!!!]

Does not mean it won't run.
It means it will not last as long.

And Yes.
You are recommended to at least park in a garage and/or use an engine block heater in winter. Doing this, even in an unheated garage (but still with plug-in heater) will work wonders.

Wait. Canadian?

I'm preaching to the choir. You should know this.

What does that have to do with the hybrid battery which is under the truck? How does an engine block heater help that?

further, how would someone plug in while at work all day or any number of other places a person might go? Does ford expect us to keep this hybrid plugged in and inside a garage all winter and never drive it? What a silly comment.

 

[HeyBales]

What does that have to do with the hybrid battery which is under the truck? How does an engine block heater help that?

further, how would someone plug in while at work all day or any number of other places a person might go? Does ford expect us to keep this hybrid plugged in and inside a garage all winter and never drive it? What a silly comment.

Why block heater?
Guess what's going to be used out the gate.
Guess what's used to warm up the HVB to be used.

But true enough 9 hrs @ work vs 13 hrs at home really doesn't matter - ambient temp in either case after a very short while.

Now in cases where it actually has a chance to get warmer during the day - perhaps helpful.
But at those bitter temps, 10-15 F extra doesn't really matter much.

 

[HeyBales]

Yes they do

Well - now be fair.

That's only the hybrids that need to be plugged in.

EB's are fine.

 

[HeyBales]

True. But TROGDOR did ask " Does ford expect us to keep this hybrid plugged in and inside a garage all winter and never drive it? "

Well - the never drive it takes care of the CV axle problem too.
Plugged in of course takes care of the 12V battery problem.

 

[Surly Old Bill]

Maybe someone who lives someplace with cold winters will tell us what's good.
I lived at 10,000' in CO, in the town that South Park cartoon is based on (yes, met Matt and Trey when they were "researching" before they started the show). In the coldest part of winter, it could be more than -50f with the windchill. Even some people with block heaters could not start their cars. I had a Toyota 4cyl pickup at the time, and even without a block heater I could start it, but the first couple revolutions were like a second or more apart!

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Everyone should know this hybrid is high maintenance. Sort of like having a pet. It doesn't like hot, it doesn't like too cold and you must feed it with fluids and now electric maintenance treats. Sales people won't tell you that. I think they should be required to do so. When I asked my sales guy, he told me this is decades old technology from the Escape and is great, No mention of charging issues and added hands on maintenance
For me I am hands on anyway, have scanners and tools. Lots of research should be done before buying these complicated systems with software, plastic and throw away parts.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Well - the never drive it takes care of the CV axle problem too.
Plugged in of course takes care of the 12V battery problem.

I couldn't have said it better.

 

[HeyBales]

Maybe someone who lives someplace with cold winters will tell us what's good.
I lived at 10,000' in CO, in the town that South Park cartoon is based on (yes, met Matt and Trey when they were "researching" before they started the show). In the coldest part of winter, it could be more than -50f with the windchill. Even some people with block heaters could not start their cars. I had a Toyota 4cyl pickup at the time, and even without a block heater I could start it, but the first couple revolutions were like a second or more apart!

And especially those that have had the prior hybrid models using same battery tech and such.

If they kept vehicle for awhile - any battery problems?

 

[TROGDOR!!!]

Maybe someone who lives someplace with cold winters will tell us what's good.
I lived at 10,000' in CO, in the town that South Park cartoon is based on (yes, met Matt and Trey when they were "researching" before they started the show). In the coldest part of winter, it could be more than -50f with the windchill. Even some people with block heaters could not start their cars. I had a Toyota 4cyl pickup at the time, and even without a block heater I could start it, but the first couple revolutions were like a second or more apart!

well where I live it often gets to -40c which is also -40f. Colder with windchill - however - windchill only affects things either skin. Trucks are not affected by it.

I’ve lived my whole life here. Cars have NO trouble starting in these temps provided they have good 12v batteries.

Diesels are another story.

I’ve got the 2025 AWD hybrid. We will see this winter what happens. Its currently +31c here.

I will note that I believe the 12v battery actuates the solenoid to connect the traction battery which is then used to start the engine.

I believe the “block heater” is actually not a block heater but rather heats the coolant a little. That will be of NO use when the traction battery is starting the engine with its -40c oil.

We will see how this winter goes. Time will tell.

 

[zen_]

Doesn't seem like there is an established market for refurbished hybrid batteries for the Maverick like the Prius line, but I do see plenty of low mile units from wrecked vehicles for around $1,000. I'd say that since it's a bolt on external part, buying one of those from a reputable source is actually pretty low risk.

If I had a vehicle with a 150,000+ miles, and it was going to be around $1,500 to do a used low mile battery vs. $6,000+ on a new one as one person claimed...I am taking my chances on the $1,500 option every time. If if you did get a bad battery by chance and had to pay labor twice, you'd still come out 3x less. Probably not a job I would do myself though since playing around with the HV system can kill you.

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