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EPA. Can't shorten the wheelbase because of EPA rules.
I'm confused by this statement. I mean, the EPA and DOT rules for a light-duty truck are anything but simple, and individual states do different things which can affect insurance rates, vehicle registration and property taxes, and so on. but I don't think there is a restriction on wheelbase for light-duty trucks:

https://www.epa.gov/moves/how-does-moves-define-light-duty-trucks

"It is difficult to determine whether a vehicle is a passenger car, light duty truck or heavy duty truck just based on the make/model description.

Many SUVs and minivans are considered light duty trucks. Since vehicle manufacturers, and not EPA, determines the GVWR for vehicles and their other characteristics that determine the car/truck classification, EPA has not compiled a list of make/models by model year that classify vehicles."


title 49 section 523 deals with what's a passenger vehicle, a non-passenger vehicle (oddly and probably *archaically* defined) includes light-duty trucks, and then heavy duty trucks and buses.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-523/section-523.5

I don't see anything in there about wheelbase. Maybe your home state does care about that. Mine does to some extent, my Maverick could be registered as a farm truck, and property tax on light trucks is WAY less than a SUV of the same MSRP/cost.

There is something about wheelbase relating to 4 wheel-drive utility vehicles that's intended to cover Jeeps and such: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/part-533#p-533.4(b)(4)

" 4-wheel drive general utility vehicle means a 4-wheel drive, general purpose automobile capable of off-highway operation that has a wheelbase of not more than 280 centimeters, and that has a body shape similar to 1977 Jeep CJ-5 or CJ-7, or the 1977 Toyota Land Cruiser. "
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I'm confused by this statement. I mean, the EPA and DOT rules for a light-duty truck are anything but simple, and individual states do different things which can affect insurance rates, vehicle registration and property taxes, and so on. but I don't think there is a restriction on wheelbase for light-duty trucks:

https://www.epa.gov/moves/how-does-moves-define-light-duty-trucks

"It is difficult to determine whether a vehicle is a passenger car, light duty truck or heavy duty truck just based on the make/model description.

Many SUVs and minivans are considered light duty trucks. Since vehicle manufacturers, and not EPA, determines the GVWR for vehicles and their other characteristics that determine the car/truck classification, EPA has not compiled a list of make/models by model year that classify vehicles."


title 49 section 523 deals with what's a passenger vehicle, a non-passenger vehicle (oddly and probably *archaically* defined) includes light-duty trucks, and then heavy duty trucks and busses.
https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/subtitle-B/chapter-V/part-523/section-523.5

I don't see anything in there about wheelbase. Maybe your home state does care about that. Mine does to some extent, my Maverick could be registered as a farm truck, and property tax on light trucks is WAY less than a SUV of the same MSRP/cost.

There is something about wheelbase relating to 4 wheel-drive utility vehicles that's intended to cover Jeeps and such: https://www.ecfr.gov/current/title-49/part-533#p-533.4(b)(4)

" 4-wheel drive general utility vehicle means a 4-wheel drive, general purpose automobile capable of off-highway operation that has a wheelbase of not more than 280 centimeters, and that has a body shape similar to 1977 Jeep CJ-5 or CJ-7, or the 1977 Toyota Land Cruiser. "
There would be penalties for shorter wb. Mileage would need to higher than they are now to avoid. This is why the Maverick is wider and longer than the original Ranger. An swb EV truck would not be an issue. The only way you will see a shorter wheelbase narrower track is on an EV truck now.
 

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There would be penalties for shorter wb. Mileage would need to higher than they are now to avoid. This is why the Maverick is wider and longer than the original Ranger. An swb EV truck would not be an issue. The only way you will see a shorter wheelbase narrower track is on an EV truck now.
ah. what you're talking about could be buried in CAFE. I did not try to dig into that.
 

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O.K. then, make it a 2-door extended cab, with a longer bed and the same wheelbase. Like they used to make.
Ford won't do that because FEW people buy RC trucks. I would've if it was available, but I'm in that 10% or less that would.
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