2025 Keypads battery or wired?

[OleFordGuy]

Maybe anyone curious or those on the fence to purchase or not could make donations to have a designated "tester" to purchase one and take it apart to see if they battery could be replaced without destroying it. Just an off the wall thought.

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[Bob The Builder]

Glad I got 22 xlt ecoboost with wired key pad and etc .

I feel the same way about my '23.

 

[Bob The Builder]

Anyone know the average lifespan of the batteries? This kind of defeats the purpose if I can't lock the keys in the the vehicle intentionally with full faith that the door code will work

On my Ranger the batteries lasted about 12 years. At that point the upgraded version (the one currently in use) could not be programmed with a 12 year old Ranger.

About the last two years it worked, some of the time when unlocking the truck it would unlock / lock / unlock. This is a low battery alert. It first manifests itself in cold weather gradually to the point it does it all the time. Then it will die. So yes, plenty of warning like maybe two years or so.

The original version (the one I had) could be programmed DIY with an ignition key on / off sequence. Nice, simple, easy. Then Ford decided to make things more complicated and expensive (these two usually go hand in hand) basically required a dealer with the proper scan tools to program.

 

[Mav4mepossibly]

On my Ranger the batteries lasted about 12 years. At that point the upgraded version (the one currently in use) could not be programmed with a 12 year old Ranger.

About the last two years it worked, some of the time when unlocking the truck it would unlock / lock / unlock. This is a low battery alert. It first manifests itself in cold weather gradually to the point it does it all the time. Then it will die. So yes, plenty of warning like maybe two years or so.

The original version (the one I had) could be programmed DIY with an ignition key on / off sequence. Nice, simple, easy. Then Ford decided to make things more complicated and expensive (these two usually go hand in hand) basically required a dealer with the proper scan tools to program.

Very helpful, thank you!! A warning system would alleviate my worries.

 

[CurtisB]

I have a 2023 XLT Hybrid with the keypad. Never use it. Why? Because I still have to take out the key and put it in the ignition to start it. If the truck came with a start button, I would use the key pad. It's just easier to push the one button on the key fob than 5 digits on the keypad.

With my 2015 Prius, all I had to do is have my key in my pocket, walk up to the car, the interior lights would come on by themselves, touch the handle, the door would unlock, get in and push the start button.

 

[MAVRICK]

For the accessory keypad?

Ford accessory site lists 2 key pads, one for vehicles w/ factory remote start and one for those w/out factory remote start.
They fit many vehicles...but not 2025 is not listed yet.

https://accessories.ford.com/keyless-entry-keypad-for-vehicles-with-factory-remote-start
https://accessories.ford.com/keyless-entry-keypad-for-vehicles-without-factory-remote-start

I think that it will most likely be the same for 2025s, but don't know for sure yet.

Thanks.

 

[Gschaef]

Anyone know the average lifespan of the batteries? This kind of defeats the purpose if I can't lock the keys in the the vehicle intentionally with full faith that the door code will work

When the wireless keypad came out for the Maverick I read something on a Ford site that the battery is expected to last an average of 8 years. I can’t find that article but I specifically remember the time frame as I purchased one after reading it. I will post if I can find it.

 

[05FordGT]

I have a coworker who has a stick on on his super duty and it's been replaced once in the last 20 years I think.

Well, break it to your coworker that if he has the old keypad (circa mid/late 2000s) then he is SOL when it does die. The current keypads don't work on older models that don't use IDS ot program them. The old ones program like a remote (turn key on 8x in 10 sec, end 8th turn on, press remotes, then press code on stick on keypad, programmed).

How do I know? I bought the old keypad many many years ago and put it on the inside of my gas door on my 2006 Mustang GT. Ford, in their infinite wisdom, forgot to add an interior trunk release, so I bought the stick on jobbie. Put it on the inside of the gas door (out of sight) and it worked great, until it died (about 10 years later). But my car was a weekend toy that I drove to cars & coffee so very limited use (and it sat unused for 2 years... that's another story).

Peeled it off (battery is NOT replaceable) and bought a new one several years ago. Tried to program it...NOPE! Read instructions. My model year is NOT on it and it specifically states it must be programmed with IDS.

Yeah, whoever was behind removing the keypad should be fired! It was a selling feature that I used for my 23 years in sales as we had it and Ford wouldn't share it. To say it costs more to stamp the hole out? No it doesn't. That's all computer controlled. And it's a small extension of the wiring harness in each door. What would it save per car? Very little. But Ford can sell the stick on for what? $90 or whatever it is. Just a horrific decision. I use my keypad on my 2023 every single day.

Hey Jim Farley, way to screw up the company some more!! You freaking

 

[TomD]

If you think about.. for FORD its a lot of work..
Body panel needs the hole stamped...
Installing the wire harness... thats partway up the rear pillar... (labor $$$)

Sticking the unit to the paint...and having it replaced when the batteries die... $$$

Jerry

In this vein can a factory installed one and dealer unit use the same code and what do you think of putting one on the tailgate?

 

[PRH]

I thought the stickon ones would just replicate the wireless keyfob. No wiring reqd

 

[SteveM]

I have a 2023 XLT Hybrid with the keypad. Never use it. Why? Because I still have to take out the key and put it in the ignition to start it. If the truck came with a start button, I would use the key pad. It's just easier to push the one button on the key fob than 5 digits on the keypad.

With my 2015 Prius, all I had to do is have my key in my pocket, walk up to the car, the interior lights would come on by themselves, touch the handle, the door would unlock, get in and push the start button.

I currently have a 2023, and I do use my keypad a lot. I umpire, and HATE having my keys in my pocket on the field, so I generally lock them in my truck, then use the keypad to get back in when the game is over.

 

[LSchicago]

No keypads on the 2025 unless you add a stick on.

 

[Mav4mepossibly]

Has anyone requested the dealer place it in a less prominent location? Any ideas?

 

[Tbone289]

I thought the stickon ones would just replicate the wireless keyfob. No wiring reqd

That's what they do, and since in most cases they're used much less than a wireless keyfob, the battery will last much longer than the one in the fob.

 

[NeedForSteve]

I put the stick-on one on my 2007 Fusion in 2018. Battery still works, but the buttons haven’t faired the elements well. They stick and you occasionally have to press them *really* hard to get them to register.

The battery life isn’t the biggest worry for longevity IME/IMO

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