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I wonder if it's anything like the s550 mustangs they lost 10hp because of the installation of a carbon trap in the intake. Remove it get your 10 hp back. I removed mine in the Mach 1. Definitely made a difference.
With a completely new engine its going to take a while for aftermarket companies to make things like air intakes, intercoolers etc. RIP aftermarket tuners hard work for 2024 and older Mavs
HP is the same. 22-24 250 HP on 91, 25+ 237 HP on 87. The engine is not 'all new', but it may well have port + direct injection, which may explain the different intake routing. The internals and twin scroll turbocharger are identical.
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Since we're just speculating at this point - maybe the plan is for a GPF (gasoline particulate filter) on the '25's. GPF's are coming for sure for boosted GDI engines (as per last EPA rules) but my assumption was that 2026 would be the earliest practical intro date for US vehicles (already have them in Europe).
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Engine output is the same as the 22-24 models using 87 octane, they may just changed the way they rate it, & you may get those horsepower back using 91, would they really redesign the engine that has to go through a new EPA certification?
The engine IS INDEED "all-new" for the 2025 model year. It is their new line of Ecoboost engine family called the MPC which stands for Modular Power Cylinder. It first debuted on the 2024 Mustang 2.3 and also the the Ford Escape for 2023 for the 1.5 and the 2.0. In the Escape this engine still makes 250hp but I believe Ford derated the engine just a tad for the LOBO model to look good on paper.
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Thanks I was wondering that too. Never though their would be a new engine!
Adding port fuel injection, reducing the turbo size and adding an electronic wastegate is not 'all new'. Still the same block, head, valvetrain etc.
It is an all new engine that uses a different head, block, and valve train. It's based on the new MPC new Ecoboost engine family.
It's a completely new engine. Different block, different heads, different cams, different fuel system, different valve cover, different intake, different flywheel, different water pump, different thermostate housing, different crankcase ventilation system, etc...
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I agree the 2.0 , should be a 2.7 or at least the 2.3 , but the trans is the same too , most don’t realize our 8 speeds are actually a seven speed!
You will never get it to auto shift all 8 speeds.The paddle shifters can be added to ours, a few on here have done it , I have one on order from fast mavericks .
We may see an ST but it will be another 2 years.
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