Should I switch to a ecoboost? AWD?

[maveri_k.1231]

I currently have a hybrid on order, but I am now realizing I will not be seeing this truck for several months. I am in need of a new car and I am hoping to trade in my current vehicle to help pay for the maverick. Obviously, as time goes on, my current vehicle is depreciating in value, making it harder to pay for the already dirt cheap maverick.
I really like the idea of 42 mpg in the city since it will greatly decrease my amount spent on gas. My current vehicle gets about 13 mpg city and 25 hwy, so the mpg is a huge improvement for me. Also, the hybrid is standard so it allows me to add some additional features while still being in my budget. But, the dealer said this won't even be built until around January/February 2022.
The ecoboost engine still has good mpg (compared to my current vehicle). But, it adds about $1000 to the price, and seems more likely to be built and get out to my dealer before the hybrid will. However, I won't save as much on fuel costs and I had to take some features out in order to meet my budget. I'm going with the xlt to have cruise control and such, but in order to meet my budget I took out some unnecessary features, which I think would be nice, but won't fit my budget with the ecoboost such as the sliding rear window.
Another idea I had was shifting down to the xl trim and adding all wheel and the eco boost. This will allow me to add all my features and gain awd, but I won't have the nice rims, cruise control, or power mirrors. Cruise control I feel is needed since I do more long drives than getting stuck, but I do like the idea of all wheel considering it has saved my a** more times than I care to admit in the mud and snow in my area.
I am just looking for suggestions and wondering if anyone else is in a similar predicament with the hybrid/ecoboost thing.

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[710-oil-614]

Do you want an AWD EB? I wrangled with the same decision because the dealer had an unspoken for XL AWD EB and I had first dibs. I posted on here and lots of folks said - don't compromise - do what is right.

I'm not buying the Mav for it's AWD or off road capabilities. That's what my Bronco order is for. The Maverick to me was just an absolute value proposition I could not turn down for a daily driver. It's a jack of all trades swiss army knife for me in XL Hybrid form - my options are listed below and my build price is $23,575. Once I started to get away from that it changed how I viewed the Maverick and it became a compromise and something I didn't need. EB and AWD push that price closer to $30k - then I start thinking about jumping from XL to Lariat and I'm at $30k+ and I'm creeping up on Bronco prices.

I'm trading my 2014 Forester in which is worth about $11,500 right now. I full expect that to dip to about $10k by arrival. I'm going to be OTD for $15k all said and done. That's incredible for what you get with the Hybrid.

I"m MavBrid all the way.

 

[Bburg]

I feel your pain, I Pre-Traded my 2014 F150 Crew Cab Lariat on a Lariat Hybrid 1st Edition thanking it would be her by the end of year. I only had to give $5K difference since I traded early. I am retired and have another vehicle.
I don't think used car values are going to go down soon, but I understand why you want to switch.

 

[Darksider]

I would order both what.. Well just order another and make the decision once the first comes in.. You never know the hybrid might come around the same time as eco. Plus don't let the dealer fool you. They are not going to cancel the hybrid they will do exactly as I said and order you two vehicles.

I added on 360 to my order and my dealer said they couldnt change the order so they ordered me another one and said they cancelled the first. They didn't I still have the tracker. They want to sell it themselves for a nice mark up but I might just get both when they come in.. You have to have a parts car right.

 

[TruckVille]

I read the post of another member who has a hybrid on order, and bought on off the lot yesterday. Maybe you could do that. He was going to trade the new Mav in for the Hybrid when it comes in, or sell it. I guess he could also just cancel. Will the Hybrids be so sought after that you could make money reselling it when it comes in? I don’t know.

 

[dalola]

Unless you can find dealer stock at MSRP, you likely won't get an EB Mav order any sooner.

So, if you have to wait, might as well wait for exactly what you want.

If you can find a Mav on the lot that meets your budget, go for it!

 

[vezpa]

The value on your used vehicle should npt go down much of at all in the next 4 months unless you crush it with miles.

 

[clippedwings]

How about using logic? Consider these3 factors:
What you want
What you need
What you can afford

For most of us, What You Can Afford usually tops the list. This is the most difficult factor to wrestle with. Hopefully, common sense wins out. This factor usually drives everything else. What You Need brings out whatever wisdom you possess. This is relatively easy to deal with, because if you accept it as the driving factor, you just ignore the items on the build list that would be desirable, but obviously not NECESSARY. What You Want is the toughest element to deal with, especially if What You Can Afford is at the top of your list.

When it gets down to making the choices, most of us will usually fail to some degree in making the best ones for us. We are usually all influenced to some degree by TEMPTATION..if we have SOME degree of wisdom and common sense, we may push the parameters of one or more of the 3 elements and get away with it because we didn’t go overboard, and we usually find a way to successfully deal with the unwise elements that we allowed to creep in.

This whole process will usually be greatly affected by CIRCUMSTANCES. We may use the circumstances to rationalize questionable choices, but in the end that often doesn’t help the predicament we have put ourselves in. And of course, this whole process plays out in the great American circus called consumerism, which can skew the wisest of us in a direction that can end up at the edge of a cliff. It’s really the same story for just about every other choice we make in life. Good luck.

 

[Edge Haley]

I "was" in the same situation, and was going to call my dealer and switch to an Ecoboost until a video showed up on this site showing an Ecoboost in a pretty minimum off-road...and could not make it over a small log....and immediately realized my Honda Element with AWD is just as qualified as the Ecoboost in limited off road trails...which is all I do. The Ecoboost is not going to be a really heavy duty off-road vehicle...go buy the big Bronco if that’s needed.

If you finance the Maverick you can probably get the all options you want for $30-50 dollar month more...and wait for just what you want. The Ecoboosts that show up at dealers are probably going to be marked up or had options that you don't care for....like tinted windows for $900, etc. I'm totally glad I decided to wait for the Hybrid.

 

[projectvortex]

I would order both what.. Well just order another and make the decision once the first comes in.. You never know the hybrid might come around the same time as eco. Plus don't let the dealer fool you. They are not going to cancel the hybrid they will do exactly as I said and order you two vehicles.

I added on 360 to my order and my dealer said they couldnt change the order so they ordered me another one and said they cancelled the first. They didn't I still have the tracker. They want to sell it themselves for a nice mark up but I might just get both when they come in.. You have to have a parts car right.

I’ve often considered, in the last few weeks, buying a few Mavs and flipping them. With my luck though by the time any of these would come in the market will have reversed course.

 

[2022EOW]

I would order both what.. Well just order another and make the decision once the first comes in.. You never know the hybrid might come around the same time as eco. Plus don't let the dealer fool you. They are not going to cancel the hybrid they will do exactly as I said and order you two vehicles.

I added on 360 to my order and my dealer said they couldnt change the order so they ordered me another one and said they cancelled the first. They didn't I still have the tracker. They want to sell it themselves for a nice mark up but I might just get both when they come in.. You have to have a parts car right.

Yeah that's the plan, give the dealer stock before others get their reservation filled. NO DON'T DO THAT!

 

[Old Ranchero]

I currently have a hybrid on order, but I am now realizing I will not be seeing this truck for several months. I am in need of a new car and I am hoping to trade in my current vehicle to help pay for the maverick. Obviously, as time goes on, my current vehicle is depreciating in value, making it harder to pay for the already dirt cheap maverick.
I really like the idea of 42 mpg in the city since it will greatly decrease my amount spent on gas. My current vehicle gets about 13 mpg city and 25 hwy, so the mpg is a huge improvement for me. Also, the hybrid is standard so it allows me to add some additional features while still being in my budget. But, the dealer said this won't even be built until around January/February 2022.
The ecoboost engine still has good mpg (compared to my current vehicle). But, it adds about $1000 to the price, and seems more likely to be built and get out to my dealer before the hybrid will. However, I won't save as much on fuel costs and I had to take some features out in order to meet my budget. I'm going with the xlt to have cruise control and such, but in order to meet my budget I took out some unnecessary features, which I think would be nice, but won't fit my budget with the ecoboost such as the sliding rear window.
Another idea I had was shifting down to the xl trim and adding all wheel and the eco boost. This will allow me to add all my features and gain awd, but I won't have the nice rims, cruise control, or power mirrors. Cruise control I feel is needed since I do more long drives than getting stuck, but I do like the idea of all wheel considering it has saved my a** more times than I care to admit in the mud and snow in my area.
I am just looking for suggestions and wondering if anyone else is in a similar predicament with the hybrid/ecoboost thing.

IMO, you have too many moving pieces swirling around to make a sound final decision which creates confusion. Try compartmentalizing into maybe 3 seperate boxes and work through them individually start to finish. 1st and probably most important is the Maverick itself. Are you 100% SURE this is the right vehicle for you in ANY configuration of trim, options, etc.? Have you read everything possible (good and bad) about both engines and all features in XL, XLT, Lariat? Have you seen 1 in person? Got to test drive? If you answered no to most or all of the above- none of the other stuff matters. Nail this 1 before you consider anything else that clouds the picture. Either you do or don't want a Maverick specifically. If you can't wait without changing things multiple times it probably isn't your best overall decision.

Next I'd do the budget gyrations to nail down with certainty what you can comfortably afford. Establish your max price and don't budge. Have you checked all your financing options? Dealer, Credit Union, local bank you use, etc.?

Last worry about your current vehicle and whether you consider trading it as part of a Maverick deal- or not. Best advice I ever got/read/heard was negotiate your best OTD price on the vehicle before even mentioning a possible trade.

If you get through exercise #1 and you DO want a Maverick above all else: make a list of WANTS and NEEDS and go to the configurator tool on-line. Run it a couple times and print out the summary. Take your most comfortable budget option you settled on and see if the configuration with just the absolute NEEDS fits in that budget. If yes, now you have your baseline vehicle spec'd out and what it will cost you. Is there more room under your known budget? Go to your WANTS list and start adding items until you hit your top of budget and there you go.

I find this takes all the stress and guessing out of it and clears your thinking so you follow your plan and don't let emotions or external factors interfere with the facts of your purchase. Whether buying the Mav or something else, always get your financing arranged before you go to the dealer. Agree on the OTD price, and only then discuss any trade of your vehicle and get offers from Carvana, Carmax, etc. before you go so you know if dealer offer is fair or not.

Good Luck!

 

[notfast]

Seems like you're a bit all over the place, but there is already a lot of great advice given. I'll give you my two cents.

I am in need of a new car and I am hoping to trade in my current vehicle to help pay for the maverick.

Aren't we all!

Obviously, as time goes on, my current vehicle is depreciating in value, making it harder to pay for the already dirt cheap maverick.

With the chip shortage probably going to last well into 2022, chances are your vehicle will flatline in value or appreciate unless you have something really unreliable.

I really like the idea of 42 mpg in the city since it will greatly decrease my amount spent on gas.

Sounds like you want the hybrid.

Also, the hybrid is standard so it allows me to add some additional features while still being in my budget.

Yup, hybrid.

But, the dealer said this won't even be built until around January/February 2022.

That's speculation, though not unreasonable. But lets just say, worst case, your hybrid ain't coming until this time next year. Is your current car so far on its last legs that it won't make it another winter?

The ecoboost engine still has good mpg (compared to my current vehicle). But, it adds about $1000 to the price,

Sounds like you're compromising for something you don't want.

and seems more likely to be built and get out to my dealer before the hybrid will.

Again, speculation. It also sounds like you're willing to accept what is available rather than what you want. To me, that just sounds like you'll be unsatisfied once the hybrids are available. Possibly to the extent that you're willing to sell your EcoBoost Maverick for a hybrid.

However, I won't save as much on fuel costs and I had to take some features out in order to meet my budget.

That sounds like even more compromises. Spend more on gas, take features out, all to get a vehicle sooner.

but in order to meet my budget I took out some unnecessary features, which I think would be nice, but won't fit my budget

This is the second time you pointed out losing features. I think you subconsciously made the decision to wait for the hybrid, but you're trying to justify accepting the EcoBoost.

Another idea I had was shifting down to the xl trim and adding all wheel and the eco boost.

This is the first time you even mentioned AWD, so I wouldn't consider it a need for you.

Cruise control I feel is needed since I do more long drives than getting stuck

So you want to get an AWD XL with AWD you don't need, cruise control you don't have, probably higher maintenance and repair costs (AWD has a propshaft, U-joints, a second diff, CV axles, etc.) and spend more on gas all for the possibility to get your truck sooner?

but I do like the idea of all wheel considering it has saved my a** more times than I care to admit in the mud and snow in my area.

I'd get winter tires on a FWD before driving an AWD on all-seasons. Since you never mentioned off roading or chain controls at all, I'd skip the AWD. A decent set of brand new winter tires on some take-off wheels will probably cost less than the EcoBoost option alone.

 

[Decayed]

Depends on how tight your budget is. If you do a lot of highway driving hybrid doesn't buy you as much efficiency as if you did a lot of stop and go so maybe the ecoboost is fine. Personally, I want awd so I have less chance of getting stuck in heavy snow (and to do light off roading for camping) and the ecoboost is about as efficient as my current vehicle so I'm not that worried about fuel costs. However, if you go ecoboost but stick with FWD, my experience with FWD vehicles is that they do ok in a bit of snow and worlds better than a RWD pickup - speaking from experience there. The FWD Mav should do ok in light snow if you get decent all season tires. So eco/fwd might be a good budget combo.

I went XLT for the cruise control because about once a month I have to make these 4 hour highway drives and CC coupled with the lane assist stuff will make those drives a lot more relaxed. Again, hybrid doesn't help much when you're cruising at highway speeds.

 

[MDRN]

Why would you pay to add AWD and in doing so, reduce any fuel economy of an ICE if you are complaining about poor gas mileage? I had an Escape 2 versions ago. I was lucky to get 20 mpg in the city with the AWD. If you want economy, don't add an extra transfer case, and wait for the hybrid.

Buy a used private sale car if you need a daily driver until it arrives if you really want the Maverick and economy.

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