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Ok so so bare with me as this can be long winded.
So as the internet makes everything huge. I thought I would address a way to help reduce carbon build up or coking as it referred to on the intake valves of DI engines.
So to start off where does this come from? Well as your piston takes its compression stroke certain gasses get past the rings and pressurize the crank. When the crank case is pressurized that has to be relieved. So to save the environment the industry came up with a pcv valve to avoid vent to atmosphere. What this does is a series of baffles in a plate on the front side of our engines. And continues up to the intake. The theory is you add the extra crank pressure back into the intake and hope the baffles in the plate catch most the vapor and oils before the intake. But as we know it can’t catch all.
So several ways have been addressed for this. Such as better breather plates for the pcv with more baffles, and catch cans.
Now hear me out. I believe I have a third cheaper option.
Upr breather oil cap. So what this does is have a weighted ball that keeps vacuum while idles but once you get enough pressure it lifts and elevates it. Now since the timing chain and other parts are connected to the crank. This should in turn relieve crank pressure thus eliminating a lot of strain on the pcv valves also. Which would not have the extra pressure or gasses pushing up to the intake. The less gas the less coking of valves.
So far it seems to be working. I’ve been testing this on two ecoboost engines and at 120k they seem to have almost zero carbon build up.
So it’s only two but both have no more carbon or less than a port injection engine.
I stumbled upon this with my built focus rs just to remove crank pressure and the lightbulb went on.
These parts are only $65 and much cheaper than anything else. Plus it’s as simple as putting your oil cap on.
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Do you happen to know the diameter of the filter? I'm running their catch cans and looked at the oil breather. I have the JCR engine cover and am wondering if the UPR breather will clear. Thanks @Snox801 !
 
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Do you happen to know the diameter of the filter? I'm running their catch cans and looked at the oil breather. I have the JCR engine cover and am wondering if the UPR breather will clear. Thanks @Snox801 !
I do not at the moment but will be glad to measure it when I get a second. You would want the height off filler tube in valve cover and over all diameter correct?
 
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It does clear all the buffet ford covers I have. It seems to sit up high enough the filter clears the cover on all mine.
 

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I do not at the moment but will be glad to measure it when I get a second. You would want the height off filler tube in valve cover and over all diameter correct?
No worries. I emailed them to ask and will post the answer later. I'm more interested in the overall diameter to make sure it will clear the hole in the cover.

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Ok so so bare with me as this can be long winded.
So as the internet makes everything huge. I thought I would address a way to help reduce carbon build up or coking as it referred to on the intake valves of DI engines.
So to start off where does this come from? Well as your piston takes its compression stroke certain gasses get past the rings and pressurize the crank. When the crank case is pressurized that has to be relieved. So to save the environment the industry came up with a pcv valve to avoid vent to atmosphere. What this does is a series of baffles in a plate on the front side of our engines. And continues up to the intake. The theory is you add the extra crank pressure back into the intake and hope the baffles in the plate catch most the vapor and oils before the intake. But as we know it can’t catch all.
So several ways have been addressed for this. Such as better breather plates for the pcv with more baffles, and catch cans.
Now hear me out. I believe I have a third cheaper option.
Upr breather oil cap. So what this does is have a weighted ball that keeps vacuum while idles but once you get enough pressure it lifts and elevates it. Now since the timing chain and other parts are connected to the crank. This should in turn relieve crank pressure thus eliminating a lot of strain on the pcv valves also. Which would not have the extra pressure or gasses pushing up to the intake. The less gas the less coking of valves.
So far it seems to be working. I’ve been testing this on two ecoboost engines and at 120k they seem to have almost zero carbon build up.
So it’s only two but both have no more carbon or less than a port injection engine.
I stumbled upon this with my built focus rs just to remove crank pressure and the lightbulb went on.
These parts are only $65 and much cheaper than anything else. Plus it’s as simple as putting your oil cap on.
If you can make one of these my good sir you will make a killing.
 

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Well, my opinion, the internet is full of the sky is falling, I had minor concerns in the beginning but after reading the bad and good from respected mechanics, tuners, and several on this forum that had put 100k miles on previous EB with same design with no issues as long as the engine is well maintained, chg oil/filter every 5K full synthetic, use tier 1 gasoline brands, if their is a noticeable decrease in performance around 100K just have the maintenance process of walnut blasting for around $500 +/- and carry on. Life too short to worry about the small stuff. Have fun and enjoy life. I do applaud your research and all, well done
 

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Can you post some links to the parts you used, and maybe a brief writeup of how you did this? And pictures too!
 

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It's an interesting concept and for $65 I would use it, but they need to back up their HP claims and ability to reduce carbon build up with actual tests before I'll invest.
 

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It's an interesting concept and for $65 I would use it, but they need to back up their HP claims and ability to reduce carbon build up with actual tests before I'll invest.
Agreed. I'd like to see more of these sellers back up their claims with dyno results, even if they only choose a couple of models to document as illustrations.
 
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Well, my opinion, the internet is full of the sky is falling, I had minor concerns in the beginning but after reading the bad and good from respected mechanics, tuners, and several on this forum that had put 100k miles on previous EB with same design with no issues as long as the engine is well maintained, chg oil/filter every 5K full synthetic, use tier 1 gasoline brands, if their is a noticeable decrease in performance around 100K just have the maintenance process of walnut blasting for around $500 +/- and carry on. Life too short to worry about the small stuff. Have fun and enjoy life. I do applaud your research and all, well done
I get that I’m not super worried but if a $65 part can eliminate the need or double the maintenance that’s a heck of a lot better than a semi invasive walnut cleaning. And for someone like me that’s almost $2k over the life of the car.
 
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Agreed. I'd like to see more of these sellers back up their claims with dyno results, even if they only choose a couple of models to document as illustrations.
It showed no improvement on mine on the dyno I just like the idea of less oil in my intake.
 
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Your solution is venting to the atmosphere. As a person with lungs, I do not support such devices.
Well the mask you wear should save you. Come on man really. It has a filter on it that will catch some oil if need be. But what you are suggesting would be so much oil your engine would be covered.
So it’s either catch some in the filter it has or burn it either way your sky will be falling.
I also dont think this is for everyone. But people like me who are more concerned with every other nation ruining the environment than ours I think I can live with a slight chance this would change anything.
 
 







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