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First Oil Change?

herby

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Did my first oil change on new 2023 Hybrid yesterday. 6721 miles and dash said 57% oil life remaining. Dealer put in 5W20, I called him out on it and said 0W20 is on the fill cap and that is what it should be.

he said this:

The oil on the cap is what Ford says to use to increase fuel economy, it is more of a recommendation than a requirement. The 5w20 is the recommended oil, so there is no need to be concerned about damage or anything like that. Going forward, we can use the 0w20 if you like. However, the 0w20 is full synthetic and your maintenance plan does not cover the increase in the cost for the oil. There would be a 4$ per quart up charge.

Such BS! I am pissed because I had a 2022 Hybrid, same dealer put in 0W20 in oil service shown on the receipt and I did not pay anything extra. Two oil changes included as part of the purchase price. Kind of feel like this dealer is now saving pennies or just messed up. I prefer to do my own oil changes and now know why. I guess I will forgo the next free one. Anyway just had to vent and thought this was the place to do so.
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Do y'all also brush your teeth 4x a day? Lather, rinse, repeat, then repeat again?
Change your underwear twice a day? Shower twice a day?
Swap brake fluid yearly? Air filters every 15k miles? Brake pads at 50% wear?

I tend to think that Ford Engineers know what the change interval should be.

"Cheap insurance" is a lame argument. Lots of stuff is cheap, that doesn't mean I'm going to throw it away at half life.
If it makes you feel better, fine. Don't try and pass off your warm, fuzzy feeling as a sign of an improved statistically significant outcome for engine longevity, though.
 

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Did my first oil change on new 2023 Hybrid yesterday. 6721 miles and dash said 57% oil life remaining. Dealer put in 5W20, I called him out on it and said 0W20 is on the fill cap and that is what it should be.

he said this:

The oil on the cap is what Ford says to use to increase fuel economy, it is more of a recommendation than a requirement. The 5w20 is the recommended oil, so there is no need to be concerned about damage or anything like that. Going forward, we can use the 0w20 if you like. However, the 0w20 is full synthetic and your maintenance plan does not cover the increase in the cost for the oil. There would be a 4$ per quart up charge.

Such BS! I am pissed because I had a 2022 Hybrid, same dealer put in 0W20 in oil service shown on the receipt and I did not pay anything extra. Two oil changes included as part of the purchase price. Kind of feel like this dealer is now saving pennies or just messed up. I prefer to do my own oil changes and now know why. I guess I will forgo the next free one. Anyway just had to vent and thought this was the place to do so.
Um, no. Ford specifies 0W20 synthetic because the hybrid spends an awful lot more time starting cold than the EB. Putting in a thicker 5W oil means that you spend more time without lubrication, shortening the engine life. If the doofus doing the oilchange can't even read and follow the 710 cap right in his face, maybe he can't even put your underbody shield back on without cross-threading the screws...
 

Tim's23Mav

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My 2023 Hybrid has almost 8000 miles on it and nothing telling me it's time to change the oil I'm sure it will but how many miles ? or did I miss something
My dealer said 1st oil change 10,000 2nd 20,000 what you guys think
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