Not a design flaw. Everything is fine. (Better?)

[BAScott62]

Let ye who's never been a bit hyperbolic when frustrated cast the first snowball

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[OrangeBlue]

Pretty sure Homer Simpson addressed this issue.

Design flaw???? Manufacturers can’t build every conceivable scenario into a vehicle, especially when it starts at around $20k.

 

[garryjohnson]

I did say there was no bad weather. Just glad we don't have snow like that. Yes from June to November it can get interesting.

Are you close to Wewa?

About 160 miles west. Almost to the Alabama line.

 

[Lone Star Proud]

No. I don’t know why it won’t open now. I just attached it again. This was after pulling over twice on my way home from work to clean the front end off. Again, maybe not a design flaw, more of an unpleasant side effect of the design. Maybe other vehicles also have this happen, I’ve never had it in any of my GM, Ford, Chryslers, Mazda, VW, Nissan, and whatever else I’ve had over the years.

I see this picture and can only thank God for letting me born in a warmer stare

 

[CTYankee]

This problem was solved long ago for snow plows. They are available with heated LED lights (I have them on my snow plow).Vehicle manufacturers could include this in their cold weather packages; I'm not sure why they don't.

 

[FromAway]

This problem was solved long ago for snow plows. They are available with heated LED lights (I have them on my snow plow).Vehicle manufacturers could include this in their cold weather packages; I'm not sure why they don't.

Because the Maverick was not designed for plowing snow, and heated lights are not offered on any other vehicle that is comparable to the Maverick, especially at its price point.

 

[CTYankee]

Because the Maverick was not designed for plowing snow, and heated lights are not offered on any other vehicle that is comparable to the Maverick, especially at its price point.

To me, the price of the vehicle is an excuse. Once you accept the cost of making LED headlights standard, adding a heating element as a cold weather option doesn't really have anything to do with the base price.

Also, tying the Maverick and the snow plow together is a false argument. My snow plow is on my Wrangler. The point is it's not rocket science or unusually expensive to do.

 

[Hoagus]

Nice false equivalency. Thanks for the reply. Quite a community we have here. Is there an admin that can just lock this disaster?

Not sure what kind of responses you expected. I think the design flaw aspect set you up for some mild disparagement.

 

[Hoagus]

I see this picture and can only thank God for letting me born in a warmer stare

Many people move when they grow up.

 

[FromAway]

To me, the price of the vehicle is an excuse. Once you accept the cost of making LED headlights standard, adding a heating element as a cold weather option doesn't really have anything to do with the base price.

Also, tying the Maverick and the snow plow together is a false argument. My snow plow is on my Wrangler. The point is it's not rocket science or unusually expensive to do.

The price of the vehicle is most definitely an argument. Adding an unnecessary resistive heating element to a headlight that 99.99% of buyers have no use for is not without cost. It is not common in the industry. It would need to be designed, engineered, sourced, tested, and produced.

I didn't bring up snow plows, you did. And your Wrangler did not even have heated headlights as an option even if you bought an $80k+ Rubicon. So if an expensive adventure brand doesn't offer them, then why would Ford?

 

[FromAway]

Many people move when they grow up.

Many people are warm blooded mammals with the capability to regulate their body temperature in a variety of climates.

 

[rlhdweman]

It's really caused by the law of unintended consequences, LED lights use far less power, & don't radiate the 'waste' heat that a halogen would. I have had customers with the same issue who use spotlights for Xmas decor, the incandescents melt the snow that falls on them, but the LEDs do not making people go out & remove the snow. When I ceramic spray waxed my Maverick before winter I also did the headlights & have not experienced them icing over.

 

[CTYankee]

The price of the vehicle is most definitely an argument. Adding an unnecessary resistive heating element to a headlight that 99.99% of buyers have no use for is not without cost. It is not common in the industry. It would need to be designed, engineered, sourced, tested, and produced.

If you'll read both of my posts, you'll note that I suggested it as optional. That covers both the cost argument and the argument that most buyers will never need it. But it would be a useful addition to the cold-weather package offered as optional equipment by any manufacturer. And it would likely be a popular option for those of us who live in the Snow Belt.

I didn't bring up snow plows, you did. And your Wrangler did not even have heated headlights as an option even if you bought an $80k+ Rubicon. So if an expensive adventure brand doesn't offer them, then why would Ford?

Yes, I brought up snow plows but only as an example where this has already come to market at a reasonable price and for the same reason a vehicle owner might want them. You tied the Maverick to snowplowing, not me.

As for the argument that Ford shouldn't need to offer anything other brands don't, that's a 'race to the bottom' argument. No one offered EV's, either, until someone did. No one offered many things that are now standard equipment until someone did. That's product differentiation and, as a business model, it works a lot better than adhering to the lowest common denominator.

At the end of the day, I don't care that my ($29K bought used) Rubicon doesn't have heated LED's (they are aftermarket, btw). I clean them off when they get iced or snowed over. It's never been a big problem because it doesn't happen often. I'm in my second winter with the Maverick and it hasn't happened to it, either, so far.

 

[Executech]

Never mind. My point was that in my over 30 years of driving and probably at least twice that many vehicles in that time, many different makes and models, never have I had one cake up like this in the front.

I do have a problem that I’ve noticed and that is the void where the windshield wipers sit. This void is a cavern and really fills up with snow.

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