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This post Covid world makes no sense to me. Employers have to pay way more in wages, and still it seems nothing can get done. If our auto manufactures would start building stuff for their vehicles and quit subbing it out to foreign manufactures, maybe things would get done. It is frustrating that our politicians and corporations rely nearly solely on offshore manufacturers for so many things we use and it also seems we have learned nothing from what was obvious during Covid. It makes me long for the 50's to the 70's when the USA made a majority of what it used, we are not the same country I grew up in. I have been trying for nearly two years to buy a Maverick Hybrid and I wonder if my grand down payment is just going to be refunded in a few months.
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This post Covid world makes no sense to me. Employers have to pay way more in wages, and still it seems nothing can get done. If our auto manufactures would start building stuff for their vehicles and quit subbing it out to foreign manufactures, maybe things would get done. It is frustrating that our politicians and corporations rely nearly solely on offshore manufacturers for so many things we use and it also seems we have learned nothing from what was obvious during Covid. It makes me long for the 50's to the 70's when the USA made a majority of what it used, we are not the same country I grew up in. I have been trying for nearly two years to buy a Maverick Hybrid and I wonder if my grand down payment is just going to be refunded in a few months.

Supply chains are organized as such because private companies' sole purpose is maximizing profit for shareholders. Outsourcing is how they keep costs low. Bringing manufacturing onshore is certainly doable (and being done in many cases; See semiconductors) but be prepared for the fallout from that. If it moves back onshore then costs will rise.

We have higher health and safety standards than the places where these products are manufactured now and our employees also demand higher wages than workers in other countries. There is no free lunch.
 

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I was just looking at available inventory (near me) on Ford's site and noticed that all the dealer ordered trucks did not have the trailer hitch as an option. Another constraint I suppose. And all but one were EB.
I did the same out of curiosity. Six total Mavericks within 100 miles according to Ford's website. Four are hybrid. Five of the six are retail orders. Only one stock and it was an EB Lariat. The retail EB was a 4K XLT. Only one of the four hybrids had a hitch due to the XLT Lux.
 

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Supply chains are organized as such because private companies' sole purpose is maximizing profit for shareholders. Outsourcing is how they keep costs low. Bringing manufacturing onshore is certainly doable (and being done in many cases; See semiconductors) but be prepared for the fallout from that. If it moves back onshore then costs will rise.

We have higher health and safety standards than the places where these products are manufactured now and our employees also demand higher wages than workers in other countries. There is no free lunch.
I would love to see "Made in America" come back and I would be willing to pay the price increase for it. (As the costs are just going up anyways.)
At least I would know what I was paying for was worth my money and that I would get it on time.
Everything from China is crap and we know it, but shame on us for allowing it to happen. We wanted too buy cheap crap and we have it now!
Supply chains are organized as such because private companies' sole purpose is maximizing profit for shareholders. Outsourcing is how they keep costs low. Bringing manufacturing onshore is certainly doable (and being done in many cases; See semiconductors) but be prepared for the fallout from that. If it moves back onshore then costs will rise.

We have higher health and safety standards than the places where these products are manufactured now and our employees also demand higher wages than workers in other countries. There is no free lunch.
 

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Supply chains are organized as such because private companies' sole purpose is maximizing profit for shareholders. Outsourcing is how they keep costs low. Bringing manufacturing onshore is certainly doable (and being done in many cases; See semiconductors) but be prepared for the fallout from that. If it moves back onshore then costs will rise.

We have higher health and safety standards than the places where these products are manufactured now and our employees also demand higher wages than workers in other countries. There is no free lunch.
I understand and agree, This is all a result of NAFTA and other sell out of American jobs starting in the late 60's when we exported far more goods than we imported. Now we have swung too far in the opposite direction.
 

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I would love to see "Made in America" come back and I would be willing to pay the price increase for it. (As the costs are just going up anyways.)
At least I would know what I was paying for was worth my money and that I would get it on time.
Everything from China is crap and we know it, but shame on us for allowing it to happen. We wanted too buy cheap crap and we have it now!
In fairness, I have some quality stuff made in China. I also have absolute garbage from China. Most China manufactures will build exactly what you want. Want a $0.03 USB plug? Okay. Want a $50 USB plug? They'll build that too.

However, I'm all for American jobs and think a lot of companies can move their mostly automated manufacturing back to the US and not really impact their bottom lines.
 

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I removed the Lux package on my rollover XLT because even with my "higher priority" code, I am not confident it will get built with that constraint and I will lose out on the $1,750 private offer incentive.
 

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This post Covid world makes no sense to me. Employers have to pay way more in wages, and still it seems nothing can get done. If our auto manufactures would start building stuff for their vehicles and quit subbing it out to foreign manufactures, maybe things would get done. It is frustrating that our politicians and corporations rely nearly solely on offshore manufacturers for so many things we use and it also seems we have learned nothing from what was obvious during Covid. It makes me long for the 50's to the 70's when the USA made a majority of what it used, we are not the same country I grew up in. I have been trying for nearly two years to buy a Maverick Hybrid and I wonder if my grand down payment is just going to be refunded in a few months.
No overt MAGA-ism here
 

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This post Covid world makes no sense to me. Employers have to pay way more in wages, and still it seems nothing can get done. If our auto manufactures would start building stuff for their vehicles and quit subbing it out to foreign manufactures, maybe things would get done. It is frustrating that our politicians and corporations rely nearly solely on offshore manufacturers for so many things we use and it also seems we have learned nothing from what was obvious during Covid. It makes me long for the 50's to the 70's when the USA made a majority of what it used, we are not the same country I grew up in. I have been trying for nearly two years to buy a Maverick Hybrid and I wonder if my grand down payment is just going to be refunded in a few months.
You were fine with all of this stuff before Covid, but now that you have to wait for the things you want due to supply constraints, you’re throwing a fit about how everything was better when it was made in the US, as if everything magically picked up and moved overseas in 2020. Lol
 
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The US does not even remotely have the labor supply to make what we use. We have record low unemployment as it is. Only going to get worse as baby boomers retire.
 

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I would love to see "Made in America" come back and I would be willing to pay the price increase for it. (As the costs are just going up anyways.)
At least I would know what I was paying for was worth my money and that I would get it on time.
Everything from China is crap and we know it, but shame on us for allowing it to happen. We wanted too buy cheap crap and we have it now!
You know there are places that are not China and not USA right? Knowing what I know about American workers from decades of experience consulting US manufacturing companies, I would happily take my chances with goods manufactured anywhere else. The folks who work American manufacturing jobs are typically uneducated, unskilled, low wage, laborers.
 
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However, I'm all for American jobs and think a lot of companies can move their mostly automated manufacturing back to the US and not really impact their bottom lines.
Not a chance. They know what they are doing. They can get higher quality labor at a fraction of the cost offshore.
 

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Not a chance. They know what they are doing. They can get higher quality labor at a fraction of the cost offshore.
Really it just comes down to the demand for higher minimum wage leading to higher cost of goods. It’s why Walmart and grocery stores are moving to the self checkout model. Hell even convenient stores are doing it now.
 

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You know there are places that are not China and not USA right? Knowing what I know about American workers from decades of experience consulting US manufacturing companies, I would happily take my chances with good manufactured anywhere else. The folks who work American manufacturing jobs are typically uneducated, unskilled, low wage, laborers.
But mah good paying labor unions
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