Whirring noise from Electric Motor

[n0maverick]

sounds just like the pedestrian warning system to me.

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[Captain Pork chop]

Too bad you can't change the sound. Change it to Minions weee do weee do

 

[Wrench77]

https://www.megaohmmotorsports.com/product/ford-psbk-ece

Problem Solved .....

Thank you. I was gonna Ohm out the speaker myself and make a resistor to make it look like the speaker was there still to fool the computer but this makes it nice and easy and before people scream and yell I know it’s wrong thank you for the info and your opinion.

 

[Redneck Garage]

I just want to make sure I understand this. Here's what I think you are saying. I've numbered the thoughts so you can easily tell me which ones, if any, are wrong.

(1) No one ever walks in front of a car coming out of a driveway, or pulling away from a stop sign, or driving away from a gas pump, or... whatever. Only happens in parking lots.

(2) The only non-blind person who might accidentally walk in front of a silent car is someone looking at their phone. There is no other possible reason why someone might be distracted or looking in a different direction.

(3) People who are looking at their phones couldn't possibly hear the warning sound that the hybrid makes.

(4) Blind people move so slowly (you sure about that?) that no driver could possibly miss seeing one who walked in front of their car.

(5) You're not selfish.

I'm pretty sure I got it right, but let me know...

Sure if you think that. Let's see -

1) No certainly people walk in front of cars every day. Many are not paying attention. Some are wearing earbuds, staring at videos, talking on speaker - In this case the pedestrian would be at fault.

2) Again - silent , not silent , green , orange - in fact studies show some high end vehicles that are ICE are actually as quiet as a hybrid at low speed. These folks while not blind are still not paying attention and walking in front of a vehicle. Correct.

3) They may or may not hear the 1000 sounds that are happening around them in a city environment because ...... they are too busy with their tic tock addiction. Will they notice some weird swooshing sound ? Who knows.

4) I would say that is generally true - vision is a really great sense to use to avoid running into something.

5) Correct.

 

[clavicus]

I think this is the study that started it all

https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/811204

google scholar search results to poke around for more reading

 

[DryHeat]

1) No certainly people walk in front of cars every day. Many are not paying attention. Some are wearing earbuds, staring at videos, talking on speaker - In this case the pedestrian would be at fault.

I'm glad we both agree that people walk in front of cars every day, and not just in parking lots.

Given that, I think your focus on the idea that "the pedestrian would be at fault" pretty well explains our difference of opinion on this issue:

• You seem more focused on who is at fault.
• I'm more focused on preventing someone from getting injured.

So, from my point of view, the noise is a minor and beneficial inconvenience.

(BTW, there's a school for the blind near me. Those folks can move pretty fast on familiar sidewalks.)

 

[WannaMav]

Ancillary article reporting from across the pond.

Can't seem to readily find follow-up on how this has worked out on busy thoroughfares with multiple vehicles moving in both directions.

 

[Redneck Garage]

I'm glad we both agree that people walk in front of cars every day, and not just in parking lots.

Given that, I think your focus on the idea that "the pedestrian would be at fault" pretty well explains our difference of opinion on this issue:

• You seem more focused on who is at fault.
• I'm more focused on preventing someone from getting injured.

So, from my point of view, the noise is a minor and beneficial inconvenience.

(BTW, there's a school for the blind near me. Those folks can move pretty fast on familiar sidewalks.)

What is the point of the Pre-Collision Assist With Automatic Emergency Braking on the Maverick then ? Is this not designed to prevent running over someone ? I believe in personal responsibility from both the driver and pedestrian. Only way someone gets run over is one or both fail to do what is required to prevent a splat. No matter how many speakers and annoying sounds you put on a vehicle if you run out in front of it you run the risk of the consequences.

 

[Snax]

Given that, I think your focus on the idea that "the pedestrian would be at fault" pretty well explains our difference of opinion on this issue:

• You seem more focused on who is at fault.
• I'm more focused on preventing someone from getting injured.

So, from my point of view, the noise is a minor and beneficial inconvenience.

This is how a decent and moral person approaches the world. While I also get frustrated when people fail to pay attention, I don't think that such lapses justify running them over--even if I'm "not [technically] to blame."

Life is full of distractions, and normal people sometimes fail to notice everything in their surroundings that might be a threat--such a truck backing up. The pedestrian warning system is an innocuous way of helping ensure that fewer people suffer the dire consequences of an unfortunately-timed moment of inattention. I think I may have read something in a book once about treating others as you'd like to be treated, which seems applicable here.

 

[Redneck Garage]

Pre-Collision Assist With Automatic Emergency Braking is standard on all models with or without 360 which is why I wonder why many are upset at the thought of removing the stupid noisemaker.

 

[Redneck Garage]

This is how a decent and moral person approaches the world. While I also get frustrated when people fail to pay attention, I don't think that such lapses justify running them over--even if I'm "not [technically] to blame."

Life is full of distractions, and normal people sometimes fail to notice everything in their surroundings that might be a threat--such a truck backing up. The pedestrian warning system is an innocuous way of helping ensure that fewer people suffer the dire consequences of an unfortunately-timed moment of inattention. I think I may have read something in a book once about treating others as you'd like to be treated, which seems applicable here.

Yes indeed - I love all the " because you don't like a nanny state and think the noise addition is stupid especially with collision avoidance / emergency braking is standard " people are evil if you dont fall in line and agree. Funny, Ive read much on the matter and this study -

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/heal...-surged-2020-despite-fewer-cars-road-n1267910

One of the interesting things stated was -

Though the report did not examine details of each accident, those on the front lines of responding to crashes and treating victims say speed is to blame: Open roads allow drivers to go faster. "The wrecks that are occurring are at higher speeds," said Dr. James Augustine, the medical director for emergency medical services in Atlanta, as well as a spokesman for the American College of Emergency Physicians.

Higher speeds ? What ??? The stupid noisemaker only works at low speed so we need to turn it up and have it on all the time ?

Another FACT - 2019 data released by the GHSA in March suggest alcohol impairment of either the driver or the pedestrian was a factor in nearly half of the accidents in which the pedestrian was killed that year. - That is HALF BTW.

So lets see - if your drunk you may run over a pedestrian even if Ford put a noisemaker on your truck and if you are hammered as a pedestrian you may just stumble in front of a moving vehicle that is going too fast for the dumb noisemaker to work.....

Yeah Im not a "decent and moral person " because I dont like this government mandated annoying sound pollution added to my truck. sure.

 

[Wrench77]

Sure if you think that. Let's see -

1) No certainly people walk in front of cars every day. Many are not paying attention. Some are wearing earbuds, staring at videos, talking on speaker - In this case the pedestrian would be at fault.

2) Again - silent , not silent , green , orange - in fact studies show some high end vehicles that are ICE are actually as quiet as a hybrid at low speed. These folks while not blind are still not paying attention and walking in front of a vehicle. Correct.

3) They may or may not hear the 1000 sounds that are happening around them in a city environment because ...... they are too busy with their tic tock addiction. Will they notice some weird swooshing sound ? Who knows.

4) I would say that is generally true - vision is a really great sense to use to avoid running into something.

5) Correct.

I agree and with all the more recent technologies like automatic emergency braking, blind spot monitoring, adaptive cruise control, back up cameras, and cross traffic alert the noise mandate was a law from the early days of hybrids before these technologies. The laws time has passed. I think these technologies would be more effective then a noise from a vehicle as it alerts the driver more then the pedestrian. The driver is the one who is most likely to be paying attention more. I work in construction where back up alarms and loud equipment are running and have been around 2 fatal injuries due to a person being backed over. This noise from electric and hybrid vehicles will become white noise just like on construction sites. People become complacent and that will never change. I understand the need for it but modern ICE powered cars are nearly as quite as hybrid nowadays. Just my 2 cents and that’s about what my opinion is worth.

 

[Chicago Mike]

This thread reads like one of my family reunions without the beer and fistfights...
Anyway I like the spaceship whir and garbage truck chime. I 'm keeping them.

 

[Chris_G]

this is what I got and I really like it.

@Special edition
I just received mine yesterday. Did you actually have to remove the driver side wheel to install?
Thanks for your assistance.

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