Unlikely Scenario for MY22 Fulfillment of All Chapman Horsham Orders...

[yakefu]

I don't receive any email yet.

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[djd3]

I don't receive any email yet.

they no longer send emails when you get a scheduling week, only when you get a scheduled build day (not week). you need to call or chat with Ford and provide your sales code + order code from your DORA.

 

[yakefu]

they no longer send emails when you get a scheduling week, only when you get a scheduled build day (not week). you need to call or chat with Ford and provide your sales code + order code from your DORA.

Thank you. I know this information. However, I don't receive the scheduled email from ford.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

Thanks for confirming. That is sad. Someone at Ford needs to give Chapman some love.

@Dealerinsider

Have you contacted Ford via phone or online chat? Even with the constraints, given your very early order date, I would be really surprised if you still don't have a VIN either this week or next...

 

[Chuck Norris]

If Chapman is only getting 25/29 vehicles a month, with over 200 left for the year, it will take 8 months to fill all of the orders, that’s a long time, lots of MY23 roll overs

 

[theway-yay-ting]

If Chapman is only getting 25/29 vehicles a month, with over 200 left for the year, it will take 8 months to fill all of the orders, that’s a long time, lots of MY23 roll overs

This is only the second month their allocation was that low. From Nov-Feb, they were getting a steady 45. I was really hopeful that last month's lower number was just a one-time blip, but I guess we'll have to wait & see.

 

[Decayed]

This is only the second month their allocation was that low. From Nov-Feb, they were getting a steady 45. I was really hopeful that last month's lower number was just a one-time blip, but I guess we'll have to wait & see.

I guess is the effect of the new FIFO policy.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

I guess is the effect of the new FIFO policy.

Perhaps, with the combined complication of constraints. If we had a better idea of the schedule date distribution for the currently unscheduled Chapman orders, maybe it would be more obvious one way or the other.

Elsewhere in MTC I'm seeing (at least anecdotally) a seemingly high number of Sep/Oct EBs with some or all the other constraints (XLT Lux, Lariat Lux, CP-360, etc.). If I'm Ford, aside from the fact that there is an overall shortage of Hybrid components (40% constrained), if it comes down to builds which are identical except for the Hybrid vs. EB, I'm building the ($1k+ more expensive) EB, even if it was ordered months later than the Hybrid.

If they're confident that some orders will be rolling over either way, it's certainly advantageous to roll over the cheaper models.

 

[BobS]

This is only the second month their allocation was that low. From Nov-Feb, they were getting a steady 45. I was really hopeful that last month's lower number was just a one-time blip, but I guess we'll have to wait & see.

Chapman told me several months ago it might be 2023 till I see my July 8th Maverick XLT lux. I thought at the time that was outrageous and it ticked me off, but I'm now coming to terms with that. Most of the orders Long MacArthur had scheduled this week were Lariat LUX and FE's. That's likely the case nationwide as those are higher profit margin vehicles FIFO or not. Trying to be cool and plan on a very late 2022 (basically a carry over)or 2023. Time wise I'm in so deep there's on going another direction. Someday It will be just a story to tell.

 

[theway-yay-ting]

Chapman told me several months ago it might be 2023 till I see my July 8th Maverick XLT lux. I thought at the time that was outrageous and it ticked me off, but I'm now coming to terms with that. Most of the orders Long MacArthur had scheduled this week were Lariat LUX and FE's. That's likely the case nationwide as those are higher profit margin vehicles FIFO or not. Trying to be cool and plan on a very late 2022 (basically a carry over)or 2023. Time wise I'm in so deep there's on going another direction. Someday It will be just a story to tell.

Yeah, that sums it up for me as well, especially as a late October order. The FEs have to get scheduled, as they can't roll those over, and the next priority for Ford is likely as you say, "higher profit margin vehicles FIFO or not". I can't blame the company for this, as it makes financial sense (and regardless of how angry folks get, the delayed orders will ultimately still be scooped up regardless of how late they get delivered, whether by the original order-holder or someone else willing to pay ADM as well).

I really like your last statement, "Someday It will be just a story to tell."

 

[Yar]

Have you contacted Ford via phone or online chat? Even with the constraints, given your very early order date, I would be really surprised if you still don't have a VIN either this week or next...

Yes, I have called Ford Customer Service every two weeks since the beginning of February. The latest call was today. The answer is always the same: "in Order Processing". The Customer Service people are all very nice, but still, I'd rather NOT have to call them. Today's agent did inform me that Ford will begin to prioritize orders based on the date received by Ford "regardless of the dealer". This sounds like they will ignore the "dealer allocation" method for Mavericks ONLY. She read this from notes from an internal chat they had yesterday. Just one more wrench in the machine. Of course, there was the disclaimer "pending material and commodity constraints". So, yeah, they get to prioritize the high Margin trucks over the XL and XLT orders. All-in-all, getting delivery in 2022 on my June 19th 2021 Order Date is continuing to look dismal and is REALLY pissing me off!!!!!!!!

 

[theway-yay-ting]

Yes, I have called Ford Customer Service every two weeks since the beginning of February. The latest call was today. The answer is always the same: "in Order Processing". The Customer Service people are all very nice, but still, I'd rather NOT have to call them. Today's agent did inform me that Ford will begin to prioritize orders based on the date received by Ford "regardless of the dealer". This sounds like they will ignore the "dealer allocation" method for Mavericks ONLY. She read this from notes from an internal chat they had yesterday. Just one more wrench in the machine. Of course, there was the disclaimer "pending material and commodity constraints". So, yeah, they get to prioritize the high Margin trucks over the XL and XLT orders. All-in-all, getting delivery in 2022 on my June 19th 2021 Order Date is continuing to look dismal and is REALLY pissing me off!!!!!!!!

Nah, you'll still get yours this year. It's the October donkeys like me who will have to wait until 2023...

 

[BobS]

Nah, you'll still get yours this year. It's the October donkeys like me who will have to wait until 2023...

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I’ve decided to look forward to being carried over to 2023 and up grading to a Lariat Lux.

 

[djd3]

chapman 11/15 hybrid order scheduled for 5/23 build week
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...ion-build-weeks-5-30-–-6-20.14029/post-278742

 

[theway-yay-ting]

chapman 11/15 hybrid order scheduled for 5/23 build week
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/-maverick-scheduling-next-week-4-25-for-production-build-weeks-5-30-–-6-20.14029/post-278742

Thanks, but that's Chapman Philly (not Horsham), Other noteworthy aspect is that one is an XL with CP-360 (so no Lux package, which is the worst constraint). Still encouraging news, though!

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