Possible Hybrid delays

[Jonny44]

I just got off the phone with Ford Marketing to check on my order status and was told that hybrid parts are delayed and they are expecting parts for them to come in sometime around late April to early May. Seeing that the majority of builds issued in the last few weeks look to be hybrids, it's a good possibility those builds might be pushed back until their shipments arrive. I'm not one for rumor-mongering, but just relaying the info I was given. I was also told my June order will be delayed about 90 days, whether I get a build date or not.

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[Pickles]

I’m not certain you could have ordered a more delayed vehicle with the description in your sig i hurt for you friend. I hope the marketting team is wrong for your sake

 

[Jonny44]

I'm not in a hurry, but the extra wait can drive ya nuts!

 

[n0maverick]

I think it's been proven week after week in the scheduling threads on this forum that constraints are not the delay. Allocations are the primary issue.

 

[Old Ranchero]

The couple times I called for an update I found Ford marketing folks to be helpful as far as they can. They did inform me each time the information they gave me beyond what was showing in the system may not be 100% accurate or official- only what they knew/assumed to be the case at that time of our conversation. So take with a grain of salt...

 

[thevol]

They will probably partially build them and park them in a lot somewhere until the parts come it, its what they are doing with every other ford model they dont have chips for.

 

[davnau]

I think it's been proven week after week in the scheduling threads on this forum that constraints are not the delay. Allocations are the primary issue.

It's both.

If Ford can't build a Hybrid, then a dealer's allocation will go to an EB order, assuming that it can be built, given the other constraints. Or, Ford builds it and parks it, waiting for the missing parts.

It's tough to get a Hybrid delivered, especially if it's a stripped-down, non-fleet retail XL, like my order. Just where things are now. The Hybrid parts are also shared with the Escape Hybrids. Right now, at least Ford looks to be splitting the semiconductor share roughly equally between the Escapes and the Mavericks getting built, given Hybrid production numbers published to date for each. (The two share the same basic Hybrid drivetrain, except for the somewhat different eCVT on the Maverick, plus differences with the few plug-in Escape Hybrids getting built. I expect they share the same management modules - just maybe different software on those modules.)

I still say only about 30,000 Maverick Hybrids will be built for MY 2022 for the US market, leaving my estimate of 15,000-30,000 unfilled Hybrid orders, likely to be rolled over to MY 2023. I used to think that all Maverick Hybrids on order would get built this MY. Not anymore, given the latest delays on parts.

Plus, in my case, my dealer is medium-size, so gets a medium-sized allocation share. Given there are around 3,000 Ford dealers and my estimate of 30,000 Hybrids that can be built, means about 10 Maverick Hybrids delivered on average per dealer, for the whole MY. That's less than 1 per month! So, no surprise I don't have my June-ordered Maverick Hybrid even scheduled yet.

It is what it is.

See:

https://www.marketwatch.com/article...n-chip-shortage-51646399837?mod=mw_latestnews

 

[mikellmikell]

I have a VIN and order number but can't seem to get info. Have the window sticker but???? Supposed to be built last week.

 

[tngreg]

I'm bought ready to jump ship....all these constant excuses by FMC....growing old....I'm sure the Ukrainian invasion will get thrown in there somewhere as a delay reason as well....

The rush...will surely affect quality on the line at some point. FMC knew of the chip shortage LONG before the release date of the Maverick...not sure why they waited so long to close ordering. These mid level procurement bean counters get paid over 120K to accurately forecast supply.

Might have splurge and go Ridgeline...but I'm trying to hang on....

 

[davnau]

I'm bought ready to jump ship....all these constant excuses by FMC....growing old....I'm sure the Ukrainian invasion will get thrown in there somewhere as a delay reason as well....

The rush...will surely affect quality on the line at some point. FMC knew of the chip shortage LONG before the release date of the Maverick...not sure why they waited so long to close ordering. These mid level procurement bean counters get paid over 120K to accurately forecast supply.

Might have splurge for Ridgeline...higher quality anyhow...

Then get the Ridgeline. It's a good vehicle, too.

For me, too expensive, poor gas mileage, and an engine that still uses a rubber timing belt.

But, overall, still a good truck. Go for it.

We all have choices. Nobody is locked in.

 

[Jonny44]

I agree. The Mav just checks off all of the boxes that I'm looking for in a new vehicle. If it didn't I would just continue with the vehicles I have.

 

[n0maverick]

It's both.

If Ford can't build a Hybrid, then a dealer's allocation will go to an EB order, assuming that it can be built, given the other constraints. Or, Ford builds it and parks it, waiting for the missing parts.

It's tough to get a Hybrid delivered, especially if it's a stripped-down, non-fleet retail XL, like my order. Just where things are now. The Hybrid parts are also shared with the Escape Hybrids. Right now, at least Ford looks to be splitting the semiconductor share roughly equally between the Escapes and the Mavericks getting built, given Hybrid production numbers published to date for each. (The two share they all same Hybrid drivetrain, except for the somewhat different eCVT on the Maverick, plus differences with the few plug-in Escape Hybrids getting built. I expect they share the same management modules - just maybe different software on those modules.)

I still say only about 30,000 Maverick Hybrids will be built for MY 2022 for the US market, leaving my estimate of 15,000-30,000 unfilled Hybrid orders, likely to be rolled over to MY 2023. I used to think that all Maverick Hybrids on order would get built this MY - not anymore, given the latest delays on parts.

Plus, in my case, my dealer is medium-size, so gets a medium-sized allocation share. Given there are around 3,000 Ford dealers and my estimate of 30,000 Hybrids that can be built, means about 10 Maverick Hybrids delivered on average per dealer, for the whole MY. That's less than 1 per month! So, no surprise I don't have my Maverick Hybrid even scheduled yet.

It is what it is.

See:

https://www.marketwatch.com/article...n-chip-shortage-51646399837?mod=mw_latestnews

Your argument is nullified by the dozens if not hundreds of later order hybrids identical if not more restricted than those of us with July/June orders that remain unscheduled. And that's just using this forum examples. The real world numbers are likely muliple thousands of like or more constrained hybrid builds from Aug/sept/oct being scheduled and some cases built before July/June orders.

People on here can keep arguing about constraints or tooting Fords chips exscuse all day long. But anyone even remotely following this can see the issue mostly allocations.

It's getting riduculous. We shouldn't have to pester Ford executives to take notice to get scheduled.

 

[Jonny44]

The couple times I called for an update I found Ford marketing folks to be helpful as far as they can. They did inform me each time the information they gave me beyond what was showing in the system may not be 100% accurate or official- only what they knew/assumed to be the case at that time of our conversation. So take with a grain of salt...

They're always pleasant to deal with and they do tell you that their information is not the absolute truth but it's not all speculation, either.

 

[FriscoTXJoe]

I actually heard through a friend who knows a guy a few blocks over who knows a guy who once rented a pickup that Ford actually has built every Maverick ordered and is just waiting for there to be a single 48 hour period on MTC where nobody complains or insinuates that production isn't up to their liking. Once that happens, we all get our Mavs.

Until then, it's a trickle of Mavs getting to the owners.

And that guy is surely in the know. He had a babysitter who voted for Gerald Ford.

 

[Jonny44]

Your argument is nullified by the dozens if not hundreds of later order hybrids identical if not more restricted than those of us with July/June orders that remain unscheduled. And that's just using this forum examples. The real world numbers are likely muliple thousands of like or more constrained hybrid builds from Aug/sept/oct being scheduled and some cases built before July/June orders.

People on here can keep arguing about constraints or tooting Fords chips exscuse all day long. But anyone even remotely following this can see the issue mostly allocations.

It's getting riduculous. We shouldn't have to pester Ford executives to take notice to get scheduled.

I do believe that if they did have the parts to build all of the orders that the allocation ordeal would be put by the wayside. There is no way Ford would sit on thousands of built units over allocation issues. I think there's more of an issue with people ordering multiple models that they're never going to buy. Good for Ford and the dealers but bad for their customers.

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