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Endless repeated Hybrid failures have finally broken me

Darryl

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No, they want pay commensurate with what their parents were getting for similar work. Plenty of young folks out there moved into their parents line of work, same position, same pay... as their parents got 20, 30+ years ago. Even ones that are substantially outearning their parents still have less buying power than their parents had at their age.
When I started working at a dealership in 2001, things were beginning to change. Ford actually had a representative show up to tell us that warranty time for repairs would likely be going DOWN. I remember when a few service writers quit because the dealership LOWERED their commission. I remember us having a meeting where the owner congratulated the Parts department for getting good sales and for getting several recognitions from Ford. But I worked late that day. And saw the parts manager walk out of an after work meeting complaining that he and the service manager had just received a pay CUT and would have to meet a greater sales target to get the same amount of money they'd made previously. Of course that made them less likely to give the service techs and parts department employees raises. When an employee dies and they are immediately forgotten, it doesn't exactly inspire loyalty
 

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When I started working at a dealership in 2001, things were beginning to change. Ford actually had a representative show up to tell us that warranty time for repairs would likely be going DOWN. I remember when a few service writers quit because the dealership LOWERED their commission. I remember us having a meeting where the owner congratulated the Parts department for getting good sales and for getting several recognitions from Ford. But I worked late that day. And saw the parts manager walk out of an after work meeting complaining that he and the service manager had just received a pay CUT and would have to meet a greater sales target to get the same amount of money they'd made previously. Of course that made them less likely to give the service techs and parts department employees raises. When an employee dies and they are immediately forgotten, it doesn't exactly inspire loyalty
What a sad commentary on the state of things, not just the auto industry of course. No surprise that dealerships around here have a "tech wanted" sign outside.

GM used to jerk our chains in the trades, seemingly for no reason. Get laid off, find new job, get called back after a month and receive a layoff notice upon walking in the door.

If they made decent designs I would buy one, but definitely not out of loyalty.

Cheers.
 

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What a sad commentary on the state of things, not just the auto industry of course. No surprise that dealerships around here have a "tech wanted" sign outside.

GM used to jerk our chains in the trades, seemingly for no reason. Get laid off, find new job, get called back after a month and receive a layoff notice upon walking in the door.

If they made decent designs I would buy one, but definitely not out of loyalty.

Cheers.
It Is interesting that profits continue to be up or go up, but wages and loyalty is down by " ALL " large corporations. Quality and reliability are marginal from many US makers. This has led to a natural fall of their sales, while foreign / new automakers continue to make gains. Example Kia Hyundai with 100,000 warranty now make great cars, looks and reliable. Chevy has been working with them on some new design ques. If you look close the front ends have some similar looks.

I've been around for awhile and my experience has been that blind loyalty to a brand is foolish. Loyalty is earned and when there is obvious failure it's time to move on and not look back. Poor quality ain't getting my cash. I don't care were it is made anymore and I don't care if I may have to pay a little more. Bad quality should be punished, not subsidized or favored.
 
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What a sad commentary on the state of things, not just the auto industry of course. No surprise that dealerships around here have a "tech wanted" sign outside.

GM used to jerk our chains in the trades, seemingly for no reason. Get laid off, find new job, get called back after a month and receive a layoff notice upon walking in the door.

If they made decent designs I would buy one, but definitely not out of loyalty.

Cheers.
It's not just the auto industry. It seems to be business in general. Several years ago my brother (an accountant) worked at a company that made turbine engine blades. It treated ALL it's employees so well that when a Union tried to organize the blue collar workers, they were truly bit interested. And they treated employees like my brother even better. They were bought out several times. The last company had him so stressed out he was getting migraines that he hadn't had in 10 years. He mentioned his concerns to his boss (younger) . The boss simply reminded him that he was being paid well and that they could hire 2 fresh college graduates for what they were paying him. He ended up retiring early because he had money in a pension fund to last until he was eligible for SS . After he retired, several other employees quit because they didn't feel valued either.
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