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[Phimosis]

> some point soon all vehicles will be BEV. Period.

god i hope not but i'm scared you're right. the world does love flying to the extremes--and e-vehicles are extremely all the rage now.

plays to the ego of self-righteous technophiles with deep pockets and empty heads who love to show that they're doing something about global whining (sorry: warming)

never mind ev's total dependence on a stable electric grid--pretty much an oxymoron. almost the first thing to fail in a catastrophic disaster is the electric grid. within a few days my bumper-sticker cliche e-car is dead.

and never mind we're robbing peter to pay paul: forsaking the toxic and polluting oil industry for an even more toxic and polluting mining industry? least regulated and most toxic industry on earth is mining.

we all have friends with new e-cars and it's just a matter of time till we hear them complain suddenly of being sensitive to exhaust fumes--as if they'd never smelled them in their life

my argument is i wonder if farmers in bolivia and argentina are suddenly sensitive to the lithium slag in their ground water

nyt article claims hybrids are the most economical vehicles to drive; ev's charged at home cost more per mile than gas cars and ev's charged at public charging stations are the most expensive cost per mile of any vehicle

even when the lights go out--and that's inevitable--my mav will still be running. and i've got a siphon pump with a long hose to salvage gas whenever i need it

argument of the electric vehicle proponent is that such scenarios as i envision are the product of a fault-finder who's watched too many apocalypse films: it is the philosophy of the survivalist

but isn't that what i am? i intend surviving so that makes me a survivalist, right?

thanx for the width

Moving to EV’s is not some extreme move or self righteous statement made by technophiles. It is the natural progression of our ever expanding society.

London started realizing in the mid 1800’s that their “pea-soup” fog was killing hundreds of people from bronchitis every time their city became besieged by the fog, which was multiple times per year. Then they figured out that it was high sulfur content coal that was causing it. Then they made changes to stop it. Rinse and repeat, generation after generation.

That was when the earth had 1.2 billion people. Now we have 8.2 billion. And even though we’ve moved to cleaner petroleum products like gasoline with catalytic converters, we are still poisoning the earth faster than it can heal, because of how many people there are now.

Fortunately most people nowadays understand this and are onboard with making
changes to completely eliminate fossil fuel use.

When when I say “most people”, what I mean is that Gen Alpha and Gen Z are totally onboard with an all electric future. And the vast majority of millennials are onboard with all electric. And nearly half of Gen X is onboard with an all electric future. It’s only the boomers that fear EV’s and are going to be buried with their gas can still gripped in their cold, dead hands. Most of the silent generation are already gone. Every driver in the greatest generation are gone.

In a few generations, when the boomers are all gone, gas powered cars are going to be a quaint notion, similar to how we think of steam locomotives and horse drawn buggies today.

You think you’re going to survive the apocalypse by having a gas powered car, but in reality, there’s not going to be an apocalypse. My mom is a prepper. She’s been telling me these apocalypse stories for over 50 years. It’s never happened. She’s in her 80’s now and is going to die from old age without ever living to see her feared apocalypse. The same thing is going to happen to you and me as well.

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[Chops]

She’s in her 80’s now and is going to die from old age without ever living to see her feared apocalypse. The same thing is going to happen to you and me as well.

Historically, you’ll experience only one apocalypse in your life. Your mum has childhood memories from the last one. You’ll get yours someday too.

 

[Red Eyes - Wide Shut]

Moving to EV’s is not some extreme move or self righteous statement made by technophiles. It is the natural progression of our ever expanding society.

London started realizing in the mid 1800’s that their “pea-soup” fog was killing hundreds of people from bronchitis every time their city became besieged by the fog, which was multiple times per year. Then they figured out that it was high sulfur content coal that was causing it. Then they made changes to stop it. Rinse and repeat, generation after generation.

That was when the earth had 1.2 billion people. Now we have 8.2 billion. And even though we’ve moved to cleaner petroleum products like gasoline with catalytic converters, we are still poisoning the earth faster than it can heal, because of how many people there are now.

Fortunately most people nowadays understand this and are onboard with making
changes to completely eliminate fossil fuel use.

When when I say “most people”, what I mean is that Gen Alpha and Gen Z are totally onboard with an all electric future. And the vast majority of millennials are onboard with all electric. And nearly half of Gen X is onboard with an all electric future. It’s only the boomers that fear EV’s and are going to be buried with their gas can still gripped in their cold, dead hands. Most of the silent generation are already gone. Every driver in the greatest generation are gone.

In a few generations, when the boomers are all gone, gas powered cars are going to be a quaint notion, similar to how we think of steam locomotives and horse drawn buggies today.

You think you’re going to survive the apocalypse by having a gas powered car, but in reality, there’s not going to be an apocalypse. My mom is a prepper. She’s been telling me these apocalypse stories for over 50 years. It’s never happened. She’s in her 80’s now and is going to die from old age without ever living to see her feared apocalypse. The same thing is going to happen to you and me as well.

Are you a philosopher and or just a historian.Thank you for explaining all of us to ourselves and one another. Lmao

 

[chacoBazzi]

> only the boomers that fear EV’s and are going to be buried with their gas can still gripped in their cold, dead hands

current generations are ever self-congratulating--and so condescending . . .

catastrophic disaster needn't mean apocalypse--just ask victims of katrina. ask how long their electric grid was down and how long it took to be reliable again. some folx were down for over a year.

hybrids make perfect sense; all electrics would be putting all our eggs in one fragile basket--if anyone recalls when eggs came that way

 

[Chops]

hybrids make perfect sense; all electrics would be putting all our eggs in one fragile basket--if anyone recalls when eggs came that way

And the fact that generating the electricity to power EV’s comes from fuel…oil/gas/coal/nuke/etc

And try to build an EV and factory without an incredible amount of fuel…oil/gas/coal/nuke/etc

 

[Chops]

It’s only the boomers that fear EV’s and are going to be buried with their gas can still gripped in their cold, dead hands.

Yep, I’m going to be cremated using a gas fired oven. Maybe clean coal?

Boomers invented the EV btw.

Go hug your grandma while you still can

 

[chacoBazzi]

arguments against going all-electric are staggering. but technophiles bow down to worship anything new. and this pretense that they're somehow more environmentally hip? how pathetic. my new mantra: deep pockets but empty heads

and please find me a single one of them who'll cop to the devastation caused by lithium strip-mining

 

[Chops]

arguments against going all-electric are staggering. but technophiles bow down to worship anything new. and this pretense that they're somehow more environmentally hip? how pathetic. my new mantra: deep pockets but empty heads

and please find me a single one of them who'll cop to the devastation caused by lithium strip-mining

But food comes from DoorDash and electricity comes from my outlet. You mean there is more to it than that?

 

[Meeka]

> only the boomers that fear EV’s and are going to be buried with their gas can still gripped in their cold, dead hands

current generations are ever self-congratulating--and so condescending . . .

catastrophic disaster needn't mean apocalypse--just ask victims of katrina. ask how long their electric grid was down and how long it took to be reliable again. some folx were down for over a year.

hybrids make perfect sense; all electrics would be putting all our eggs in one fragile basket--if anyone recalls when eggs came that way

I know people that have the true EV’s. Prius, Leaf etc., and nothing but problems! Still MIGHT be open to a hybrid but not yet. Seems to me that the Mav hybrids have a few, just a few more problems than the EcoBoosts. Please don’t take it the wrong way people, not starting a flame war here, just my take on things, that’s all! And yes, I am a Boomer!

 

[Chops]

I know people that have the true EV’s. Prius, Leaf etc., and nothing but problems! Still MIGHT be open to a hybrid but not yet.

Electricity is the Life Blood of AI.
I would not want to be driving an EV when AI realizes how wasteful of electricity they are.

At least Hybrids pull their own weight. EV’s are a drain….

 

[Deleted member 44642]

Yep, I’m going to be cremated using a gas fired oven. Maybe clean coal?

Boomers invented the EV btw.

Go hug your grandma while you still can

That’s some really funky revisionist math about boomers inventing the EV since the first was in late 1800’s

 

[Chops]

That’s some really funky revisionist math about boomers inventing the EV since the first was in late 1800’s

There was a baby boom after the Civil War. The OG Boomers. The post WWII boomers brought the EV back in vogue during the 70’s,

 

[Phimosis]

Yep, I’m going to be cremated using a gas fired oven. Maybe clean coal?

Boomers invented the EV btw.

Go hug your grandma while you still can

Both of my Grandma’s were from the greatest generation. Do the math.

EV’s were invented 100 years before boomers were born. Sure, none of them were viable, but the EV’s that boomers created weren’t viable either. EV’s weren’t commercially viable until someone from Gen-X made that happen.

 

[Chops]

Both of my Grandma’s were from the greatest generation. Do the math.

EV’s were invented 100 years before boomers were born. Sure, none of them were viable, but the EV’s that boomers created weren’t viable either. EV’s weren’t commercially viable until someone from Gen-X made that happen.

Gen-X = Special

 

[Chops]

EV’s weren’t commercially viable until someone from Gen-X made that happen.

Making an investment does not make something viable.

It takes decades of tinkering & ingenuity. EV tinkering began in earnest in the 70’s. Boomers. Boomer Steven Jobs contemplated an EV - but stuck to Computers.

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