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Highly unpopular and underrated opinion that is 100% true. It used to be a MAX of 5 years. Now it's 8! That is insane. And the "add a year if you can't swing the payments" is just terrible financial advice. If you can't afford a year less - or 2 years less than your original idea of what you THINK you can afford, then technically, you likely cannot afford the vehicle at all. We have normalized a society of debt. The thought process now is "how much can I afford per month" without any thought to the future in the HOPES that vehicle is reliable.A car, any car, every car, especially a new car is a 100% crappy investment. Your loan period probably shouldn't be more than 36 months. If you have to finance it for longer, you probably shouldn't buy it (there are exceptions, but as a rule...). I love my Mav and think everybody in the world should own one, but it sounds like the OP isn't quite ready for the debt load.
Let's be clear here - every single manufacturer only has to get you through the base warranty. Very few places offer extended warranties for "reasonable" insurance prices and they STILL don't cover the entire potential life of the vehicle without breaking almost $3-4k. Vehicles are expected to last easily into the 150k+ range before people expect serious maintenance work. And having to fork over an extra $3-4k on top of current interest on a very lengthy loan is pure insanity. Turn a $40k vehicle into a $50k vehicle by doing that alone. You never make your money back. Now factor in "normal" family vehicles are selling for $80k+. The average cost is currently $60k!!! And that is up $13K from 2022, or up $20k from 2020. It's pure insanity currently. Things were pretty steady for a while there but they are currently climbing at a rate higher than ever seen before - and it's not normal. This level of inflation is not economically feasible.
All that said, I didn't even account for the increase in costs of the same vehicles that have changed literally nothing in the past 4 years... I'll use a Tacoma TRD for example. Finally gets an update in 2025, but the cost of the 2024's they are selling has jumped from $38k (loaded in 2020) to $48k! Want a TRD Pro? Another $10k. All they did was act like current refreshes deserve an extra $10-15k added price tag - and they don't.
Flippers got lucky for a while there and now it's VERY location based, and most dealerships in those locations are making vehicles up to avoid people reselling for profit as soon as they get them. Which, obviously is an even smaller percentage of people that can afford vehicles all cash anyways to get around interest rates.
Personally, I don't care what vehicle it is right now - if you don't "need" to get it, you shouldn't. Interest rates are in the 7%+ range at their lowest currently. You'd be lucky with a perfect 800 credit score to get anything below 5%. 2 years ago? Maybe and yea, rates were a little lower and still offering great credit scores a pass - but not now.
It is a TERRIBLE time to buy. This year is worse than the previous years so far and they were also terrible to buy in. If I wasn't paying all cash I certainly would have never bought my Maverick in 2022. Now, just browsing, I chuckle and think "well, that was the end for me". Even if I wanted something else I couldn't justify the extra cost they want now. The Maverick in general has removed, I'm going to say that again - removed! features and jacked up the price. It's an effing joke.
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