Understanding Why To Buy a '25 EcoBoost Maverick.

[capecruiser]

Nannys limit boost when power braking and or turning steering wheel. It is done to protect the drivetrain. Members have posted graphs of boost and the boost comes in very early,very little lag with a scroll turbo. Its also why Maverick has slow 60 foot time

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[fstlan3]

What? You do know that the turbo is spooled by exhaust right? So unless you are going to brake torque at a stop, you're not going get positive boost off idle and thus turbo lag. What Ford would need to add is a launch control feature with anti-lag.

While there is always some delay, it’s been engineered basically out of the equation ever since the Nano EcoBoost. The cylinder head is designed to make sure the turbo operates nearly seamlessly with the engine output. There’s basically no real lag anymore. Torque Management is a computer aid to actually induce “lag” so that it doesn’t abuse the drivetrain during maximum loading scenarios such as starting from a stop. That turbo is spooling right when that pedal moves I assure you.

 

[Nw_adventure]

What? You do know that the turbo is spooled by exhaust right? So unless you are going to brake torque at a stop, you're not going get positive boost off idle and thus turbo lag. What Ford would need to add is a launch control feature with anti-lag.

Would like better transmission programming and less turbo nannies - Thx

 

[Chase300]

Nannys limit boost when power braking and or turning steering wheel. It is done to protect the drivetrain. Members have posted graphs of boost and the boost comes in very early,very little lag with a scroll turbo. Its also why Maverick has slow 60 foot time

Interesting...so no hope for a linelock in the Lobo I assume.
Yes, I know the newer turbo's have far less lag than those from the 90's but its still there.

 

[Chase300]

While there is always some delay, it’s been engineered basically out of the equation ever since the Nano EcoBoost. The cylinder head is designed to make sure the turbo operates nearly seamlessly with the engine output. There’s basically no real lag anymore. Torque Management is a computer aid to actually induce “lag” so that it doesn’t abuse the drivetrain during maximum loading scenarios such as starting from a stop. That turbo is spooling right when that pedal moves I assure you.

Oh yeah, forgot about TQ management...need those smooth slow shifts.

 

[capecruiser]

Interesting...so no hope for a linelock in the Lobo I assume.
Yes, I know the newer turbo's have far less lag than those from the 90's but its still there.

Im sure some of the tuner guys will chime in here. The nannies are the torque management that protects the trans and the differentials. The 8f35 (i think its the model number) is rated for slightly less torque than the 2.0 puts out,and the clamshell differentials are not known to be super strong (they are not like a 9 inch ford lol). There are ways tuners get around the torque management but the drivetrain will suffer somewhere. If I remember correctly when you power brake the boost is limited to 3 psi. I live near the beach and on coastal highway with lots of traffic when I turn into the median to change direction if the steering wheel is turned sharp and you try to pull out into traffic quickly it take off like a slug untill you get going straight because of the torque limiters. Both of my Rangers do this also.

 

[Cherokee]

I see talk of turbo lag in the Eco boost.
I don't feel anything but a smooth power build up that gets faster as I go faster.
Feels like a perfect power curve for a four banger to me.
Non of that running out of torque feeling as speeds Increase like non turbo motors.

 

[colinl]

I live near the beach and on coastal highway with lots of traffic when I turn into the median to change direction if the steering wheel is turned sharp and you try to pull out into traffic quickly it take off like a slug untill you get going straight because of the torque limiters. Both of my Rangers do this also.

my AWD ecoboost did not do that stock and certainly not when tuned. it takes off making a 90 degree turn the same as a straight line, unless you get wheelspin, which you won't with summer tires and dry pavement.

because of the torque management mentioned above this is still not that impressive compared to the same type of maneuver in my old Evo, but I've driven vehicles with extremely aggressive stability management that won't let you have any fun at all, and the Maverick in normal drive mode has reasonable limits before it intervenes. those limits are much higher in sport or sand modes and I think still higher in lobo drive mode. Lobos will be fun to drive!

 

[capecruiser]

my AWD ecoboost did not do that stock and certainly not when tuned. it takes off making a 90 degree turn the same as a straight line, unless you get wheelspin, which you won't with summer tires and dry pavement.

because of the torque management mentioned above this is still not that impressive compared to the same type of maneuver in my old Evo, but I've driven vehicles with extremely aggressive stability management that won't let you have any fun at all, and the Maverick in normal drive mode has reasonable limits before it intervenes. those limits are much higher in sport or sand modes and I think still higher in lobo drive mode. Lobos will be fun to drive!

My 23 Maverick was sluggish with wheel turned and I havent tried with my 25 Maverick yet as it only has 125 miles on it. My Rangers were much worse which is surprizing cause the 10 speed in them was pretty stout with exception of the CDF drum issue. My dealers factory rep explained the torque limiters function to me when I asked the dealer about them.

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