Top Tier+ Gasoline

[KenR]

All water is just recycled dinosaur waste water.

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[ZABSMAV]

Only non ethanol I’ve ever seen is 93 Octane.
My engine and Turbo like the real gas.

Maverik - Adventure's First Stop stores found throughout the west all have 88 octane Clear Gas (ethanol-free) at the pump (with the blue handle). It is perfect for the Maverick hybrid.

"Clear gas" is a term for non-ethanol gasoline, which is petroleum-based fuel without the renewable fuel additive ethanol. Owners report this fuel can provide benefits like improved mileage and smoother operation, especially for the hybrid model, while reducing the risk of engine damage from water absorption or corrosion.

The Ford Maverick's owner's manual specifies a minimum of 87 octane regular gas, and many drivers use non-ethanol gasoline for its advantages, particularly if the vehicle is stored for long periods.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Ever seen an expiration date on a bottle of water?

Did you know that water, ALL water is
FOUR BILLION years old ?

No ? I didn’t think so.
:’P

I get what you are trying to say.
Stuff can "grow" in stale stored water.
Chemicals can leech from the container into stored water. So while inorganic, it's a good idea to have dates on stored water for good health.

A whole bunch of water is 4 billion years old. But I personally created some fresh new water today, and I destroyed some water today. You probably did too.

Burning fossil fuels, as one example binds hydrogen and oxygen creating new water.

Charging a wet cell battery is one example of destroying water by generating small amounts of hydrogen gas and oxygen gas.

If you drove anywhere today, you destroyed some water and made some new water.

There's literally thousands of examples of ways to make new water.

But I would agree a large fraction of the ocean is very old water.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Small amount. But true.

 

[Chops]

But the real geniuses will want EV grade.

Almost all EV’s in North America are powered by “Dirty Energy” - electricity generated by coal & fossil fuels.

If Tesla was able to build EV “pumps” using only hydro, solar, and wind - they could charge a premium & market it? Add a “Clean Energy+” sticker to “pump”?

 

[Chops]

Small amount. But true.

Enough to cause a puddle under your muffler’s weep hole.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

In 2023, renewable energy accounted for about 21% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation, with wind and hydroelectric power being the largest contributors. This percentage has been growing, with wind and solar energy showing significant increases in recent years.

So 21% of EV miles are zero emission miles.

 

[Bobby Chapman]

I only use Top Tier from Costco. They also happen to be the cheapest around me. No brainer.

$2.86 in Orlando right now. And if you use your Costco credit card it brings it down to $2.72 a gallon because of the 5% back on card. Love COSTCO

 

[Chops]

In 2023, renewable energy accounted for about 21% of total U.S. utility-scale electricity generation, with wind and hydroelectric power being the largest contributors. This percentage has been growing, with wind and solar energy showing significant increases in recent years.

So 21% of EV miles are zero emission miles.

EV’s are made with an incredibly dirty manufacturing process. Worse than ICE. Solar Panel & Wind Turbine manufacture is filthy too.

Maybe someday the dirt to product manufacture for Solar Panels, Wind Turbines, and EVs will be powered entirely by no maintenance solar & wind power - but until then your carbon footprint is first world humongous.

Of course, our lives depend on electricity. If we lost our electric grid we would all croak. Air would be cleaner though. Silver lining.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

EV’s are made with an incredibly dirty manufacturing process. Worse than ICE. Solar Panel & Wind Turbine manufacture is filthy too.

Maybe someday the dirt to product manufacture for Solar Panels, Wind Turbines, and EVs will be powered entirely by no maintenance solar & wind power - but until then your carbon footprint is first world humongous.

Of course, our lives depend on electricity. If we lost our electric grid we would all croak. Air would be cleaner though. Silver lining.

Naw.
BEV are imperfect.

But incrementally a move in the right direction.

Smaller & lighter vehicles are necessary.

Ridiculous to use a big truck or SUV to move people.

A 5 Horsepower motor can move people 25 times faster than walking.
This is the key.
Git rid of excesses.

 

[Escapologist]

I LOVE this post.
Thank you for adding it.

"1 to 3 gallons of additive is added to each 8,000 or 10,000 gallon tanker."

When you DIY and add a pint to your 15 gallon tank, I can see that doing something helpful.

15 x 128 oz per gallon = 1920 ounces

Pint = 16 oz

16/1920 = 8 parts per thousand cleaner

At the station you pay sometimes a lot extra for:

384 oz / 1,280,000 oz = 0.3 parts per thousand cleaner.

Scam.
Marketing.
But you do you.

Detergent is always used in tiny quantities... for example, dish soap, a teaspoon does 20 liters, 20,000ml of water, or washing a typical family of four meals worth of dishes, so that's 5ml into 20,000 already, but it's lower than that even, because dish soap is 10% active ingredients and 90% water, salt, perfume, color and crap. Even if you give a goodass squirt for Thanksgiving pans cleanup you probably don't exceed 0.3 per thousand. Same with laundry detergent, even "concentrated" or garage hand cleaner, it's all bulked up, actual detergent content is relatively little.

 

[Deleted member 45110]

All water is just recycled dinosaur waste water.

Would you like a cup of ancestors tea?

 

[Deleted member 45110]

This is the key.
Git rid of excesses.

First get rid of excuses!

 

[Surly Old Bill]

Almost all EV’s in North America are powered by “Dirty Energy” - electricity generated by coal & fossil fuels.

If Tesla was able to build EV “pumps” using only hydro, solar, and wind - they could charge a premium & market it? Add a “Clean Energy+” sticker to “pump”?

In my area, we have an optional power company called MCE (Marin Clean Energy) that buys it's power from renewable power plant sources like solar, hydro, and wind. At first they were even more expensive than PG&E, but recent price hikes by PG&E to 50+ cents/kWh have made MCE cheaper. MCE has to pay PG&E to use it's cables/infrastructure to distribute, so they still get a cut, and I'm sure they are regularly raising those fees, because they have a monopoly on the distribution infrastructure.

I don't think anyone has claimed that electricity and by association EVs are "perfectly clean". Even if the generation is non-fossil fuel, the equipment to make, transport, and store it is likely made utilizing fossil fuels. The main things is reduction/elimination of tailpipe pollution. The pollution created by powerplants that burn coal, natural gas, etc. to make electricity is FAR less per kWh than those same fuels (mainly gas/diesel) used in an internal combustion engine in a vehicle. Those millions of little engines running around are harder to maintain or keep track of than just a couple mega powerplants with up to date equipment and constant monitoring.

Also of note; solar modules, wind turbines, hydroelectric turbines, etc. may be made via "dirty" processes, but they keep on producing power long after that process is over with much less pollution than equipment mfg'd to make power burning fossil fuels. And THAT equipment also has a big mfg pollution footprint. And of course there are the lithium batteries that ICE holdouts keep pointing fingers at; they also have a very long lifespan that more than negates the pollution caused by their creation. AND they can be recycled in to new materials. And there are a number of ways to make industrial batteries that do not use lithium or cobalt, they are just lower in capacity and higher in weight. Some, though, can take an almost instant charge, like a capacitor, from equipment capable of delivering it.

But yeah, Top Tier gasoline is the preferred stuff for any modern ICE vehicle.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Nice last line to keep the message "on topic"!

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