Replaced original battery on 22 hybrid at 85k

[MavStangVa]

My preference is that they design and build a vehicle that has both the mechanical and computer parts that work BEFORE they foist on customers. Most of my recalls are for software that they don't have fixes for.

So 100 years of precedents about new model roll outs but you HOPED they had done a 4 years intensive test before release? Does your Maverick engine not work? Transmission does not work? What other mechanical recalls? You say your recalls are for software they do not have fixes for. Please list those.

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[icegradner]

Deep sleep/battery saver mode is not a death sentence, and does not mean the truck needs a new battery! I still have the factory battery in my 4 year old Hybrid (May 2022 Build date), with 30k miles on it, and it's been in battery saver mode most of it's existence. I use a battery maintainer a few times a year, but I suspect beyond the once a winter cycle it's not really needed, but cannot hurt.

Does your Maverick engine not work? Transmission does not work? What other mechanical recalls? You say your recalls are for software they do not have fixes for. Please list those.

Not the person you asked but, 22 Hybrids have a good number of common mechanical issues.

* Bad CV axles are common. There is even a customer satisfaction program extended the warranty 10y or up to 150k mile.
* Engine Fire recall due to improperly machined crankshafts. Ford's fix was a software update to put the truck into limp mode if the right conditions are met, and cut holes in the underbody cover so oil won't build up if the engine throws a rod. A new engine is only supplied if it fails, which from a business perspective makes sense to do it this way, replacing all 22 and some early 23 Hybrid's 2.5L engines would be very expensive when most of them are fine. From an owner perspective it's like siting on a possible time bomb, because you don't know if your truck is one of the small percentage with the flaw. This is covered by an extended factory warranty for 10 years or up to 150k miles.
* Exhaust gas recirculation system may get water intrusion and cause the system to fail. Covered by another, fix it when it fails 10year and up 150k mile warranty.
* Phantom 12v battery drain, which can often lead to a no start condition. To date there is no fix, even after multiple software updates to address the issue.

I have 15 recall letters for my 22 Hybrid, it's not joke. Just par for the course with a first year of new model I suppose.

 

[MavStangVa]

Deep sleep/battery saver mode is not a death sentence, and does not mean the truck needs a new battery! I still have the factory battery in my 4 year old Hybrid (May 2022 Build date), with 30k miles on it, and it's been in battery saver mode most of it's existence. I use a battery maintainer a few times a year, but I suspect beyond the once a winter cycle it's not really needed, but cannot hurt.


Not the person you asked but, 22 Hybrids have a good number of common mechanical issues.

* Bad CV axles are common. There is even a customer satisfaction program extended the warranty 10y or up to 150k mile.
* Engine Fire recall due to improperly machined crankshafts. Ford's fix was a software update to put the truck into limp mode if the right conditions are met, and cut holes in the underbody cover so oil won't build up if the engine throws a rod. A new engine is only supplied if it fails, which from a business perspective makes sense to do it this way, replacing all 22 and some early 23 Hybrid's 2.5L engines would be very expensive when most of them are fine. From an owner perspective it's like siting on a possible time bomb, because you don't know if your truck is one of the small percentage with the flaw. This is covered by an extended factory warranty for 10 years or up to 150k miles.
* Exhaust gas recirculation system may get water intrusion and cause the system to fail. Covered by another, fix it when it fails 10year and up 150k mile warranty.
* Phantom 12v battery drain, which can often lead to a no start condition. To date there is no fix, even after multiple software updates to address the issue.

Thank you for proving my point of why I NEVER buy the first 2 years of a brand new model.
EDIT: I notice these are NOT software with no fix as claimed.

 

[icegradner]

Thank you for proving my point of why I NEVER buy the first 2 years of a brand new model.
EDIT: I notice these are NOT software with no fix as claimed.

I cannot speak to the issues that the original poster you quoted made, they may have less common issues?

The 12v battery issue is software. Of the 15 recalls I have, 90% are for software issue, but most of them have been, or will get a fix.

 

[rallyshark]

I'm at 118K miles on my '23 hybrid, and still have the original battery. I will have had it for 3 years in about a month. I still have the original axles too. I've never actually put any parts on mine at all, except for when I hit a deer. The rest is just oil changes and tires. I've never once had a deep sleep issue or interior lights not coming on. I do drive a lot, so that could have a lot to do with it. I don't use the app. I was going to pull fuse 11 to disable the telematics module, but never got around to it. I've had an aftermarket stereo with a 5 channel amp, DSP, sub, replaced factory speakers since new as well. Seems like I remember someone posting that they charge the battery to full when they sense a draw on the 12v, and wonder if that could play a part too? Either way, mine has been pretty damn solid for the most part, and all while getting great mileage

 

[HeyBales]

I'm at 118K miles on my '23 hybrid, and still have the original battery. I will have had it for 3 years in about a month. I still have the original axles too. I've never actually put any parts on mine at all, except for when I hit a deer. The rest is just oil changes and tires. I've never once had a deep sleep issue or interior lights not coming on. I do drive a lot, so that could have a lot to do with it. I don't use the app. I was going to pull fuse 11 to disable the telematics module, but never got around to it. I've had an aftermarket stereo with a 5 channel amp, DSP, sub, replaced factory speakers since new as well. Seems like I remember someone posting that they charge the battery to full when they sense a draw on the 12v, and wonder if that could play a part too? Either way, mine has been pretty damn solid for the most part, and all while getting great mileage

Drive at night often for those miles?
Or through climates that you desire fan speed 6 or better for heating or cooling?
Or towing a trailer often?

 

[rallyshark]

Drive at night often for those miles?
Or through climates that you desire fan speed 6 or better for heating or cooling?
Or towing a trailer often?

A majority(90-95%) of my driving is during daylight hours, with some night driving mixed in. I almost never use fan speed 6 for long. When I do use it that high, it is just to get the truck cooled down or warmed up quickly. After that I leave the Auto on the lowest setting, and seems to hold temp good enough for me. Even today with it being 97 degrees outside, I had it on low after an initial high to cool it off after sitting in the sun. Summer highs usually peak around 100 and winter lows usually bottom out in the teens, with the occasional single digit day sprinkled in there. I never tow anything, not enough to count anyway. I do "idle" a good amount though. I'd guess my daily idle time with the truck on and in park averages 45 minutes to an hour with some days being a bit more. When I'm not talking on the phone, the tunes are going.

 

[HeyBales]

A majority(90-95%) of my driving is during daylight hours, with some night driving mixed in. I almost never use fan speed 6 for long. When I do use it that high, it is just to get the truck cooled down or warmed up quickly. After that I leave the Auto on the lowest setting, and seems to hold temp good enough for me. Even today with it being 97 degrees outside, I had it on low after an initial high to cool it off after sitting in the sun. Summer highs usually peak around 100 and winter lows usually bottom out in the teens, with the occasional single digit day sprinkled in there. I never tow anything, not enough to count anyway. I do "idle" a good amount though. I'd guess my daily idle time with the truck on and in park averages 45 minutes to an hour with some days being a bit more. When I'm not talking on the phone, the tunes are going.

So you are just getting the benefits of a long time to charge.

And your battery is likely being exercised from 80% to 85% SOC on a constant basis, so it's healthy for that low range.

Less able to take stress down there, like if you had a lights left on draw or such, but could be good for close to expected lifespan.

 

[tiktokbrainrot]

I’m sure there are, but there are many with mileage over 12k that have had battery issues. I haven’t seen a study that correlated mileage to battery failure. I may be one fortunate enough to have a factory battery that lasted. Mine was amongst the very first built.

It's not JUST mileage, it is mileage over time. Many of the people with battery issues also have either long periods where they are not driving, or do mostly short trips.

I'm not sure how you missed that part of the comment.

Do you really think 20k a year puts me in the top 5% of usage? ”Men drive an average of \(6,000\) more miles per year than women, with American men averaging between \(16,000\) and \(19,000\) miles annually. “

On this site? YES!

Like I said, a large percentage of the users here drive well below the national average. I feel like you just looked at the part of my comment where I said "mileage" and just ignored everything else.

 

[Cherokee]

The vampire drain all car batteries deal with in all modern vehicles is the new norm.
Fords after hours amp draw is extra heavy compared to most others It seems.

That Walmart 4 year H5 stands pretty much alone. It’s proven reliable and no pro rating.
If it don’t last 4 years you get a new one.

My 4 day old 2026 Tremor is sitting on my Noco Genius 1 right now.
I hooked it up yesterday.
VDC was 12.75
It’s pulsing green this morning.
Gotta use the truck shortly or I’d leave it on.

It Is what It Is. I’m good. When this FoMoCo AGM dies In goes the Walmart Ever start.
I’m not going to sweat this detail.

 

[BAScott62]

I replaced mine a few months ago at 65,000. Thought I was doing pretty good, now I feel like a piker.

 

[SLingbarT]

I'm at 118K miles on my '23 hybrid, and still have the original battery. I will have had it for 3 years in about a month. I still have the original axles too. I've never actually put any parts on mine at all, except for when I hit a deer. The rest is just oil changes and tires. I've never once had a deep sleep issue or interior lights not coming on. I do drive a lot, so that could have a lot to do with it. I don't use the app. I was going to pull fuse 11 to disable the telematics module, but never got around to it. I've had an aftermarket stereo with a 5 channel amp, DSP, sub, replaced factory speakers since new as well. Seems like I remember someone posting that they charge the battery to full when they sense a draw on the 12v, and wonder if that could play a part too? Either way, mine has been pretty damn solid for the most part, and all while getting great mileage

Thats good to hear about your axel's longevity, i have an early '23 Lariat Hybrid (march) and wondered when the axel's might fail, but only have 20k miles.

Battery though, oem started battery saver mode after 6 months, Ford replaced it after a 5 hours at the dealer, that battery went into battery saver after 6 months also, then I got an AGM from Amazon, and it never happened again.

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