Next-Gen 2024 Tacoma Spied Hiding Production Body

[NevergettinMaverick]

Tacoma has 32.6 inches of rear leg room, Maverick hybrid has 35.9 inches..

Doh!

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[NoVaJimmy]

So the tacoma interior is too small… but you ordered an even smaller truck??

Sounds like you've never sat in a current or previous gen Tacoma, the Maverick interior feels cavernous in comparison. The dimensions don't do it justice and the Tacoma ergos are very strange given the dimensions it supposedly has. Watch the driving sports tv comparison of the Tacoma TRD Pro vs a Maverick FX4 and you'll see how cramped the Tacoma driver is compared to the Maverick driver. Also, I did order a small truck with good gas mileage. If I wanted a midsize truck I would expect a midsize interior, not interior dimensions almost identical to my "small truck".

In essence, what I was saying since the point seems to have been lost on you is that Toyota apparently finally made it a midsize truck.

 

[RR - All the way]

Sounds like you've never sat in a current or previous gen Tacoma, the Maverick interior feels cavernous in comparison. The dimensions don't do it justice and the Tacoma ergos are very strange given the dimensions it supposedly has. Watch the driving sports tv comparison of the Tacoma TRD Pro vs a Maverick FX4 and you'll see how cramped the Tacoma driver is compared to the Maverick driver. Also, I did order a small truck with good gas mileage. If I wanted a midsize truck I would expect a midsize interior, not interior dimensions almost identical to my "small truck".

In essence, what I was saying since the point seems to have been lost on you is that Toyota apparently finally made it a midsize truck.

Toyota has finally made the Tacoma a midsize truck???? It has occurred to me for several years that the Tacoma IS a midsize truck just like the FORD Ranger. Like the Ranger it does not translate its larger size to more interior space.

IMHO, Toyota has not built a small truck for quite some time; when they do build a small truck it will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Maverick.

 

[Stealth Raccoon]

I actually spent a lot of time trying to convince myself to buy a Tacoma, but it just never checked all of the boxes. Thinking about the interior space, the technology, the outdated transmission and engine…the only positive for me was the potential resale value lol.
The total amount that I spent on my XL AWD Maverick could have bought me a used Tacoma with 100k miles on it if I’m lucky.

same exactly!
if the new Frontier had offered some fuel efficient 4 cylinder for $35k, I probably could have been suckered into that too, but the Maverick just checked all the boxes for me and it was $25k!

 

[Oggy]

I can echo the “Tacoma interior feels small” sentiment… I checked out a Tacoma a couple weeks ago, thought about trading my Hybrid in, the Tacoma felt small and had a weird seating position. They (the aftermarket) even sell a bracket to fix the seat position… besides the seat position the steering wheel wasn’t very adjustable, and what you get for the money isn’t a great a value… I would’ve gone to a 5 year older truck, losing power heated seats, remote start, android auto, and paid $5k more…

 

[bgn]

The Tacoma and 4Runner are some of the most dated vehicles in their classes at this point. I don't see the value for what they're asking.

 

[wax87]

Posted @ affiliate site, Tacoma4G.com

https://www.tacoma4g.com/forum/thre...oduction-bodied-prototype-spied-testing.1243/

it looked a little wrinkly to me and I did not like the rear skirt, LOL

 

[710-oil-614]

Sounds like you've never sat in a current or previous gen Tacoma, the Maverick interior feels cavernous in comparison. The dimensions don't do it justice and the Tacoma ergos are very strange given the dimensions it supposedly has. Watch the driving sports tv comparison of the Tacoma TRD Pro vs a Maverick FX4 and you'll see how cramped the Tacoma driver is compared to the Maverick driver. Also, I did order a small truck with good gas mileage. If I wanted a midsize truck I would expect a midsize interior, not interior dimensions almost identical to my "small truck".

In essence, what I was saying since the point seems to have been lost on you is that Toyota apparently finally made it a midsize truck.

To be fair, you specifically commented on the width of the Taco which even in the current gen is still wider than the Maverick by two inches.

It's kind of hard for people to get your point when it was just factually incorrect from the start.

 

[NoVaJimmy]

To be fair, you specifically commented on the width of the Taco which even in the current gen is still wider than the Maverick by two inches.

It's kind of hard for people to get your point when it was just factually incorrect from the start.

To be fair I also stated that the interior ergos don't reflect the supposed interior dimensions......

 

[710-oil-614]

To be fair I also stated that the interior ergos don't reflect the supposed interior dimensions......

Did you at first though?

Others started questioning your comment about the width and you then replied (rather condescendingly too) that the ergos don't match the numbers.

No worries - but the point wasn't lost on anyone. It just wasn't correct.

I do echo what is being said about the Taco though. My 2010 does feel cramped. More in the headroom and the fact the seat sits so low to the floor. You feel kind of cramped or smushed down and the roof kind of rolls/comes down over the sides a little which adds to the "cave" kind of feel.

The other crap things on all Toyotas are their "telescoping" steering wheel. It's like they put it in backwards and it only telescopes IN. I cannot find a position where my legs and arms are comfortable.

But width? Width is not an issue at all.

 

[commadorebob]

Blows my mind that the Tacoma regularly hits a quarter million + sales per year. It hits the "buy" button for an awful lot of people out there. Journalists regularly trash it as the worst midsize out there. Nobody cares.

When my dad worked for Chrysler back in the late 90s and early 00s, they brought in a Honda van because they wanted to know why it was such a popular option compared to what Chrysler offered. Best they could figure, it came down to five things:

1. H
2. O
3. N
4. D
5. A

Functionally and objectively, what Chrysler was selling at the time was a much better van. But for whatever reason, people wanted the Honda because it was a Honda.

I think you see the same thing here. The badge is selling that truck more than the truck is.

 

[710-oil-614]

When my dad worked for Chrysler back in the late 90s and early 00s, they brought in a Honda van because they wanted to know why it was such a popular option compared to what Chrysler offered. Best they could figure, it came down to five things:

1. H
2. O
3. N
4. D
5. A

Functionally and objectively, what Chrysler was selling at the time was a much better van. But for whatever reason, people wanted the Honda because it was a Honda.

I think you see the same thing here. The badge is selling that truck more than the truck is.

That's interesting because the Caravan/T&C/Voyager outsold the Odyssey more than 2:1 through the early 00s

 

[commadorebob]

That's interesting because the Caravan/T&C/Voyager outsold the Odyssey more than 2:1 through the early 00s

True. Doesn't mean that Chrysler wasn't interested in why it was still a popular option. The Windstar never garnered that much attention to warrant Chrysler caring, for example.

 

[NoVaJimmy]

Did you at first though?

Others started questioning your comment about the width and you then replied (rather condescendingly too) that the ergos don't match the numbers.

No worries - but the point wasn't lost on anyone. It just wasn't correct.

I do echo what is being said about the Taco though. My 2010 does feel cramped. More in the headroom and the fact the seat sits so low to the floor. You feel kind of cramped or smushed down and the roof kind of rolls/comes down over the sides a little which adds to the "cave" kind of feel.

The other crap things on all Toyotas are their "telescoping" steering wheel. It's like they put it in backwards and it only telescopes IN. I cannot find a position where my legs and arms are comfortable.

But width? Width is not an issue at all.

Whoosh, Pickles asked why I bought a "small" truck if I'm complaining about a midsize truck. In my initial post I never said anything about the Maverick or made a comparison, I was only inferring that for the midsize market the Tacoma is considered small inside (Which it is). THAT point was lost on pickles so I'm not sure where you're getting your info from. I never initially made a comparison to the Maverick, Pickles did. Also, different manufacturers have different ways of measuring interior space, what matters most is actual interior room and I'd say based on my experience Toyota is stretching the truth, I'm way more comfortable at 6' 235lbs in my Maverick than I was in a double cab Tacoma I rented for a week a few years ago. Part of that probably also has to do with the fact that my knees aren't in my chest in the Maverick like they were in the Tacoma since the Maverick actually has decent footwell space.

Also, google "Tacoma cabin narrow inside" and you'll see hundreds upon hundreds of Tacoma forum posts saying the same thing so apparently it is an issue.

 

[IdahoDirtFarmer]

I spent about 4 months driving a '21 Tacoma everyday doing pest control for a buddy. I don't care what the specs say, the cab feels WAY smaller and is definitely harder to get in and out of compared to the Maverick. Comfy to drive once you're in it, but at 6'2" and 290, in and out needed a technique. The Mavs I've sat in were easy in and out and felt way bigger sitting in it.

I was all set to buy a Tacoma for mileage and price till I discovered the Maverick. Funny enough the Tacoma with 4 cylinder, Access cab, rear seat delete, zero options, only available in white, 4wd, was identical to price of the Maverick I ordered with WAY worse mpg. The Maverick has full size rear cab with seats, decent options, 4k tow, FX4, a decent color, better ergonomics, and way better Mpg and towing capabilities for the same price. It was a no brainer to jump ship to the Maverick.

Besides that the Toyota dealers around here are horrible to deal with. If you're not walking in to buy a fully loaded TRD with cash, they won't even give you the time of day. With Toyota's system of allocations and no custom orders it was likely I'd never see the bare bones Tacoma I was wanting anyways.

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