Maverick could be Slate Killer

[Mavster Mechanic]

The Moke has been around since the sixties. I think the wealthy will keep this as their status toy… and there’s even an American made Moke company (along with Great Britan, China, etc). Also much more fun to customize

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Slate could be a Moke killer.

Same price.
Slate goes faster and has more range.

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[MaverickDragon]

The Moke has been around since the sixties. I think the wealthy will keep this as their status toy… and there’s even an American made Moke company (along with Great Britan, China, etc). Also much more fun to customize

Not exactly cheap either.. The US Moke ranges from approximately $24,500 to $36,500 MSRP.
Blond availability varies by market location..

 

[silvertoy]

Had my name in on the list early on for a slate reservation. I've got a Jeep 4xe wrangler and had an EV6 already, along with my Ram 1500, so electric was not scary to us. Was going to get the slate (as an SUV because I have kids) as a commuter car to replace the EV6. Then a few things happened
1. Realized once prices dropped that when you add an SUV kit to the Slate to get the second row seats, price goes up to $30K, before adding simple things like, a stereo, wraps, etc...
2. Realized when I went to turn in my EV6 lease, how badly electric vehicles are depreciating ( Slate will undoubtedly be better since it's MSRP is 1/2 that of an EV6 and it's a truck). But for the EV6 - 56k MSRP, 3 years and 36k miles later, trade in value was around 15k. Wrangler 4xe just as bad, and dragging down the previously top notch resale for wranglers in general.
3. Have had so many issues with my Jeep 4xe that I never want another EV for as long as possible. Spent 6 of the last 12 months in the shop for various issues, all started after 20k miles. Leaving us stranded in a BAD way. Made my wife and I, whom were die-hard jeep owners swear off Jeep probably forever.

Loaded Maverick was about the same price for a hybrid as a loaded up Slate. Maverick has excellent resale value, vs unproven resale, but history has not been kind to EVs. Although not without issues, maverick does not carry the qa/qc risks of a 100% new unproven design.

So I bought the Mav and didn't end up ordering the slate, even though I probably would have been one of the first to get one. So far, no regrets.

That being said, I'm a huge fan of the diy concept of the slate. And if the opportunity presents itself someday to get a 2 year old Slate for 15k.... I'm in.

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

Best deal in the automotive world right now....

Buy a gently used EV.

MILLIONS of turned in 3 year lease vehicles with 36,000 miles or less on the ODO going for 60% off MSRP.

 

[babytruk]

Not exactly cheap either.. The US Moke ranges from approximately $24,500 to $36,500 MSRP.
Blond availability varies by market location..

Took a good 10 minutes on the road today to spot a Moke. This was an ICE one and the had “a driver”. A Slate will never match the Moke’s level of posh simplicity. My Ford dealer outside of DC sold them.

 

[inline_five]

Best deal in the automotive world right now....

Buy a gently used EV.

MILLIONS of turned in 3 year lease vehicles with 36,000 miles or less on the ODO going for 60% off MSRP.

They were a smoking deal. Unfortunately, the rise in gas prices has really started pushing them up.

I'm hopeful by 2027 prices will drop on gasoline and the wave of EVs you mentioned will be here in full force.

 

[inline_five]

Took a good 10 minutes on the road today to spot a Moke. This was an ICE one and the had “a driver”. A Slate will never match the Moke’s level of posh simplicity. My Ford dealer outside of DC sold them.

I'll take my 2020's engineered crumple zone and 13 airbags for $500, Alex.

 

[inline_five]

3. Have had so many issues with my Jeep 4xe that I never want another EV for as long as possible. Spent 6 of the last 12 months in the shop for various issues, all started after 20k miles. Leaving us stranded in a BAD way. Made my wife and I, whom were die-hard jeep owners swear off Jeep probably forever.

Keep in mind the Jeep 4XE is a terrible example of EV reliability. Stellantis builds terrible vehicles and even worse EVs. Buy from a real EV maker like Tesla and the results are significantly better.

It's a shame Tesla made the Cybertruck, as a smaller EV based truck based off the Model Y platform would have sold really well (and I would have bought).

 

[silvertoy]

Best deal in the automotive world right now....

Buy a gently used EV.

MILLIONS of turned in 3 year lease vehicles with 36,000 miles or less on the ODO going for 60% off MSRP.

Totally agree, my EV6 was flawless, 36k miles and literally only needed tires, I never had the dreaded ICCU issue, which was under a lifetime warranty anyway.

The Wrangler 4xe on the other hand, no amount of depreciation will cover the cost of inevitable repairs. So unless you can somehow score a factory warranty, stay far away. Head over to the 4xe forums if you want to get depressed.

It has to do with the complexity. The Kia ev6 has supposedly 60% fewer parts than an equivalent via SUV. The slate has an amazing 800 parts total. On the flip side, the complexity of the Wrangler 4xe is just too much for a company that went overnight from touting solid axles, to a prius killer, all the way from design to technicians. There's probably 2x the drivetrain parts over a standard Wrangler, and 4x a standard Wrangler of 2011. There are probably more parts in the 4xe system than the slate in it's entirety

 

[Mavster Mechanic]

It's a shame Tesla made the Cybertruck..

Understatement

 

[Cherokee]

The Moke has been around since the sixties. I think the wealthy will keep this as their status toy… and there’s even an American made Moke company (along with Great Britan, China, etc). Also much more fun to customize

Nice Golf Cart :’P

We are talking automobiles right ?

 

[Cherokee]

Totally agree, my EV6 was flawless, 36k miles and literally only needed tires, I never had the dreaded ICCU issue, which was under a lifetime warranty anyway.

The Wrangler 4xe on the other hand, no amount of depreciation will cover the cost of inevitable repairs. So unless you can somehow score a factory warranty, stay far away. Head over to the 4xe forums if you want to get depressed.

It has to do with the complexity. The Kia ev6 has supposedly 60% fewer parts than an equivalent via SUV. The slate has an amazing 800 parts total. On the flip side, the complexity of the Wrangler 4xe is just too much for a company that went overnight from touting solid axles, to a prius killer, all the way from design to technicians. There's probably 2x the drivetrain parts over a standard Wrangler, and 4x a standard Wrangler of 2011. There are probably more parts in the 4xe system than the slate in it's entirety

Armageddon, the movie:

Watts: Back off! You don't know the components!
Lev Andropov: Components. American components, Russian Components, all made in Taiwan !!!!!

Rockhound: You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?

Yeah I’m that guy :’P

 

[Blue_Max]

Armageddon, the movie:

Watts: Back off! You don't know the components!
Lev Andropov: Components. American components, Russian Components, all made in Taiwan !!!!!

Rockhound: You know we're sitting on four million pounds of fuel, one nuclear weapon and a thing that has 270,000 moving parts built by the lowest bidder. Makes you feel good, doesn't it?

Yeah I’m that guy :’P

The guy who thinks movies are real?

 

[babytruk]

The guy who thinks movies are real?

At least I know everything I see on the internet is real.

 

[edwardhaskell]

Two problems with this.

1. Maverick is not electric. People are buying the slate because it’s the lowest priced new EV In the US.

2. Ford XL Maverick hybrid is still almost a few thousand more.

Bonus, the Fathom will compete with the Slate, not the Mav.

The Maverick is 3x the truck. You even get a spare tire thrown in.

And honestly -- what do you think the Slate's average transaction price will be? My money is on $32-33k after people add stuff/some want 4 seats.

Maverick can be had with way more stuff....4 usable seats AND a truck bed for what is essentially equal money.

And I bet the slate has a range near 100 miles in cold weather/being used as a truck. Maverick hybrid probably a 300+ mile range under the same conditions.

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