key in ignition fob in pants pocket

[linerguy]

Ordering a 24 LTX 2.0 AWD I would like to use a bare key in ignition and keep fob in pants pocket, will this be possible ?

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[linerguy]

Without the fob the engine won't start correct ?

 

[Tyler]

I doubt it, but unsure. Usually the immobilizer range for keyed ignitions is very short, like within a few inches of the ignition area.

EDIT: definitely won’t work, the maverick keyed ignition uses the same as most fords: 128 bit RFID transponder that needs to be close to the ignition to turn over.

 

[linerguy]

Thanks for the reply guess I'll have to wait a year and find out.

 

[Montana]

in a previous F150 I had, the sensor was built into the key. That was in 2006. I'd be surprised if FORD pulled a Hyundai move and removed said sensors allowing just the key to be used.

 

[jsus]

Without the fob the engine won't start correct ?

Correct, you can't use just a bare key blade. The fob contains the microchip for SecuriLock, Ford's PATS (Passive Antitheft System) AKA engine immobilizer. That's the thing select Hyundai/Kia vehicles are missing, making them notoriously easy to steal (see news reports).

Long story short, you have two options. Use the flip key as is or see if you can source a basic Ford key with the built in microchip. Not sure if they make one compatible with Maverick.

Ford offers one on some of the larger commercial trucks/vans that looks like this (the black plastic house holds the chip). Not sure if it's compatible but don't see why not.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-tru...ery-image-f903aef5120827ef1f9435dc006b1557-ai

 

[chriswimm]

You can certainly get a non remote key but it does need to have a chip in it which you need to pair to the vehicle. With that you then don’t need to carry a regular remote type key.

If you still have your 2 original keys you can pair any new chip key yourself with or without remote.

I have done this myself and have one simple non remote key that I can use for things like water sports (since it doesn’t mind getting wet and is smaller to carry). I ordered this blank from Amazon and then got it cut by a locksmith (which took some finding for this particular design of key) then paired it myself. There was another thread on which blanks to order and the pairing process.

This applies to XL /XLT, Lariat being a bit different so can’t speak to that.

 

[Hardening2753]

I doubt it, but unsure. Usually the immobilizer range for keyed ignitions is very short, like within a few inches of the ignition area.

EDIT: definitely won’t work, the maverick keyed ignition uses the same as most fords: 128 bit RFID transponder that needs to be close to the ignition to turn over.

Thanks for the update!

 

[Montana]

Correct, you can't use just a bare key blade. The fob contains the microchip for SecuriLock, Ford's PATS (Passive Antitheft System) AKA engine immobilizer. That's the thing select Hyundai/Kia vehicles are missing, making them notoriously easy to steal (see news reports).

Long story short, you have two options. Use the flip key as is or see if you can source a basic Ford key with the built in microchip. Not sure if they make one compatible with Maverick.

Ford offers one on some of the larger commercial trucks/vans that looks like this (the black plastic house holds the chip). Not sure if it's compatible but don't see why not.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-tru...ery-image-f903aef5120827ef1f9435dc006b1557-ai

PATS! I couldn't remember wth it was called. Was driving me nuts.

 

[MetalsGeek]

I'm in the process of getting a spare flip key for my 2023 XLT Hybrid right now. None of the 3 key fobs shown on my dealer's computer screen match the pair of fobs delivered with my truck. I believe this might be because Ford had supply chain issues and provided a depopulated fob without the remote start function. The parts guy rummaged around in the back and found one that appears to be the correct fob for my situation. The bag had Ford P/N 164-R8130 and the vendor's web site as AFTERMARKET.STRATTEC.COM. Visiting their site, this fob was described as StratTec #5939651 - "Ford 3 Button Center Mill Flip Key (315 MHZ) (L,U,P)" and was also known under StratTec's #164-R8269. The description claims that this fob fits Fits 2020-23 Escape, 2021-23 F-150, 2021-22 F-Raptor, 2023 Lightning, and 2022-23 Maverick. I ordered one of these from Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J47II4Y. With any luck, my local locksmith will have the magic to complete my journey.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

I'm in the process of getting a spare flip key for my 2023 XLT Hybrid right now. None of the 3 key fobs shown on my dealer's computer screen match the pair of fobs delivered with my truck. I believe this might be because Ford had supply chain issues and provided a depopulated fob without the remote start function. The parts guy rummaged around in the back and found one that appears to be the correct fob for my situation. The bag had Ford P/N 164-R8130 and the vendor's web site as AFTERMARKET.STRATTEC.COM. Visiting their site, this fob was described as StratTec #5939651 - "Ford 3 Button Center Mill Flip Key (315 MHZ) (L,U,P)" and was also known under StratTec's #164-R8269. The description claims that this fob fits Fits 2020-23 Escape, 2021-23 F-150, 2021-22 F-Raptor, 2023 Lightning, and 2022-23 Maverick. I ordered one of these from Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J47II4Y. With any luck, my local locksmith will have the magic to complete my journey.

I read a post yesterday where someone furnished multiple links to several keys and how to pair them. Maybe thread was "KEY REPLACEMENT"?
FOUND IT!
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...ng-yourself-from-a-locksmith-and-owner.27104/

 

[chriswimm]

That’s the thread I used and it all worked out as suggested, so now I have a 3rd flip key with remote and a single simple mechanical key.

As mentioned it took a while to find a locksmith who could cut this specific key because the key channel is narrower than typical but got there in the end. The pairing process was also a bit fiddly with how long you needed each key in for but got there in the end also. Honestly it’s awesome that Ford builds in that feature so you don’t have to get gouged by the dealer for this.

 

[MetalsGeek]

I read a post yesterday where someone furnished multiple links to several keys and how to pair them. Maybe thread was "KEY REPLACEMENT"?
FOUND IT!
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...ng-yourself-from-a-locksmith-and-owner.27104/

Thanks for the link. I actually found a couple of those inexpensive flip key fobs on Amazon in my search, but decided to go the extra few bucks and get the StratTec one (sold by Ford). The cheaper ones listed in that link do not have the blue oval logo on the back, although the second "plastic headed" (transponder only; no remote) key appears to be authentic StratTec. I've had reliability problems with the low-cost ones in the past, where the keyless remote stopped working in about a month and created a HUGE personal hassle. I'm hoping there's a valid reason the StratTec ones are more costly. (LOL) Amazon's customer ratings seem to be really useful in this.

 

[Nw_adventure]

Similar but unsolved situation I have with Lariat lux and push button start - Blade key will open door but doing anything else will make the alarm go off, zero way to start the vehicle without the FOB - Not exactly awesome -

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