I've had better nights! Maverick hit @ 1K miles 😔

[TampaBayMaverickNole]

Cause, TBH, I've been better. View attachment 51873 View attachment 51872

Just hit 1000 miles yesterday. Waited 9 months.

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OMG! I sure hope your insurance company and/or your lawyer gets you another Maverick. I hope no one was injured other than the Maverick! You have my sincerest condolences

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[Tbolt]

You haven't factored in reaction time, it takes anywhere from a half second to 3 second to react, depending on the person and situation. Successful avoidance was nearly impossible even with a half second reaction. You can see the Op tried to stop and swerve, if he hit at full speed damage would have been far worse....long story short, I'd like to see you try and see how you fare in the exact situation, I doubt very much the outcome would have been much better though knowing what's going to happen, in a repeat scenario, maybe you would, but I guarantee most people in the same scenario would have actually fared worse than the op

I don't know what I would have done here, I think I would have hit her too, or the side barrier trying to miss her. I have been in similar scenarios over the years, person turns left into my traffic lane cutting me off, I avoid and hit the curb breaking the wheel...Insurance said I should have hit them and they would have been at fault, instead, I am liable for my broken wheel. (person did stop and paid to fix my wheel, as she felt it was the right thing to do as she knew she was at fault).
I had a swarm of deer jump out in front of me at dusk, slammed the breaks, 2 break left, one breaks right and the other keeps going straight till I smoked it, or I could have swerved to either ditch and smoke em... That situation was just pick which one you're gonna hit.... I also have had many successful avoidances over the years too...too many to count...

What if he did slam the breaks and did stop and end up getting smoked from the rear end?

It is what it is here, an accident, but the op wasn't at fault and had very few options and decisions to make in a very limited, panic stricken amount of time... Its easy to sit here and say I coulda avoided it.

PS I drove over 100k miles a year for 20 years and have plenty of road experience all over North America with very few accidents. Though I have witnessed many. By in no means am I an expert, but I like to think I know what I am talking about.

This. Like I said before if you watch this a few times it becomes a lot more evident that the accident was not so easy to avoid due to the completely unpredictable behavior of the Jeep. By the point in time when the Mav owner could recognize the situation they were already toast. To all those that say they would have started breaking when the Jeep entered the Highway, I highly doubt that or that is how you actually drive. Heck, everything is fine at that point. It's when the Jeep makes the illegal lane change into the left lane then stops when you need to start counting and considering evasive action. At that point there was three seconds to impact. Avoidable, possibly, also assuming you don't get hit from behind as well, because you would need to also come to a complete stop on the highway.

 

[Blessedintx]

OMG N

Cause, TBH, I've been better. View attachment 51873 View attachment 51872

Just hit 1000 miles yesterday. Waited 9 months.

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NO!

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Just hit 1000 miles yesterday. Waited 9 months.

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I am so sorry! I picked mine up last week and I cannot even begin to imagine!

 

[austinzone]

You can’t avoid everything that happens.

but you can assume that everything can happen will happen.

so it’s about finding that happy middle ground. It takes time to learn - must have disciprine.

OP was ripping down the road - sees some jackass pull onto the road ahead.

now your brain kicks in - what does it do?

good brain: prolly ought to back off in case this scientist can’t make his mind up - be just my luck if he crosses over whatever lane I pick. definitely reducing my speed because I’m coming up hot.

bad brain: some dip just pulled into my lanes - let’s pick the one he’s not using and zip by him. Oh wait - he didn’t do what I thought he’d do.

this became worse due to the variance of speed - lotta confidence to go around your boy at that speed - but turns out that wasn’t your boy - and he didn’t do what you’d think he’d do - because it’s not your boy.

now compound this with the possibility that OP was jamming out (possibly to evervescene) and also maybe at the same time eating a tasty sammich (like an Arbys Beef n Chedda) -that’s a powerful combo.

In that scenario can we be truly at our most cautious - many times that’s not the case. However people don’t realize how often it occurs:



it’s up to us to

 

[MDRN]

Everyone's fine, but the Wrangler driver wasn't in a big hurry to explain why she stopped in the left lane.

"He pushed me into the other lane!"

Pretty clear she was trying to pull an illegal U-turn to bypass the right turn only entrance she made.

 

[Jmav2152]

You haven't factored in reaction time, it takes anywhere from a half second to 3 second to react, depending on the person and situation. Successful avoidance was nearly impossible even with a half second reaction. You can see the Op tried to stop and swerve, if he hit at full speed damage would have been far worse....long story short, I'd like to see you try and see how you fare in the exact situation, I doubt very much the outcome would have been much better though knowing what's going to happen, in a repeat scenario, maybe you would, but I guarantee most people in the same scenario would have actually fared worse than the op

I don't know what I would have done here, I think I would have hit her too, or the side barrier trying to miss her. I have been in similar scenarios over the years, person turns left into my traffic lane cutting me off, I avoid and hit the curb breaking the wheel...Insurance said I should have hit them and they would have been at fault, instead, I am liable for my broken wheel. (person did stop and paid to fix my wheel, as she felt it was the right thing to do as she knew she was at fault).
I had a swarm of deer jump out in front of me at dusk, slammed the breaks, 2 break left, one breaks right and the other keeps going straight till I smoked it, or I could have swerved to either ditch and smoke em... That situation was just pick which one you're gonna hit.... I also have had many successful avoidances over the years too...too many to count...

What if he did slam the breaks and did stop and end up getting smoked from the rear end?

It is what it is here, an accident, but the op wasn't at fault and had very few options and decisions to make in a very limited, panic stricken amount of time... Its easy to sit here and say I coulda avoided it.

PS I drove over 100k miles a year for 20 years and have plenty of road experience all over North America with very few accidents. Though I have witnessed many. By in no means am I an expert, but I like to think I know what I am talking about.

Your point on reaction time is valid and is a absolute factor for sure.

As for what I would do or react? Obviously I'm biased but I have a fair decent amount of driving for someone my age and ride motorcycles and race off road. I like to beleive I have a pretty solid ability to react quickly when needed. Be that as it may, at the point of impact I don't think the OP did anything wrong.

Where my critique comes in is as soon as that jeep pulls out I personally would have eased off the gas and been ready to start braking. The first time I watched it my first reaction was "okay you can slow down now" but the OP doesn't at all.

I'm not saying it's his fault. But he could have taken actions immediately to avoid this. I have a defensive mindset when driving and always air on the side of caution. I can't trust the Jeep and trying to pass him at 55-60mph like the op though he could do infinitely feels more risky and dangerous vs taking precaution and easing up sooner rather than later.

 

[RRaynor2]

Not sure if anyone mentioned it yet, but I wonder if Co-pilot 360 would have prevented this? My Fusion's auto braking has saved me a few times when the person in front decided to slam on their brakes to make a right turn.

Anyway, sucks for the OP. I'm sure we've all passed a car that just merged in a similar manner. Sometimes you just get unlucky. I wish I could say I'm defensive enough to avoid this but I probably would have had the same outcome haha.

 

[MrKombi]

Also, I don't know where you got a 75-80mph speed? The speed is not displayed at all in the video that I can see and you cannot determine speed based on what you can see in the video, either. It looks like 55-60 to me just like the OP said, but again, you can't judge speed that way.

OP never said 55-60. He said he was going "slightly" over the limit.

I don't know what qualifies as "slightly" in MA or GA.......but this dude was FLYING. Not even close to 55.

In many jurisdictions a simple speeding ticket CAN (at the officers discretion) be elevated to reckless driving when the speed exceeds 50% over the posted limit (90+ in a 60 zone......etc).

Don't know about MA reckless driving laws......but I bet you he was damn near 50% over the posted limit of 55.

At the LEAST he should get a speeding ticket in the mail since he chose to, defying all logic and reason, blast this incident into the public domain. Opposing lawyers and insurers WILL determine speed and WILL use it against OP in a court of law if it gets to that point.

For sharing his culpability worldwide...... OP is not the sharpest tool in the shed.

 

[Burch20]

Yea, but, right on cue, it didn't want to connect to my phone. Ended up emailing a copy to the station after the fact. Went and talked to the office writing the report. That intersection was blocked off a few years ago (the yellow posts) to keep people from crossing, but people illegally U-turn around it all the time. Such as tonight.

Watched like 10 times trying to figure out what they were doing. Makes sense now.

 

[MrKombi]

Yeah, right. It exists, and that fact is known by the cop. There is no hiding it.

Cell phones accidentally break all day every day.

If I was OP and insurers/investigators/lawyers began asking for video that showed me driving WAY over the speed limit.....

I think my phone would tragically break and be unavailable to share that footage

 

[Jmav2152]

This. Like I said before if you watch this a few times it becomes a lot more evident that the accident was not so easy to avoid due to the completely unpredictable behavior of the Jeep. By the point in time when the Mav owner could recognize the situation they were already toast. To all those that say they would have started breaking when the Jeep entered the Highway, I highly doubt that or that is how you actually drive. Heck, everything is fine at that point. It's when the Jeep makes the illegal lane change into the left lane then stops when you need to start counting and considering evasive action. At that point there was three seconds to impact. Avoidable, possibly, also assuming you don't get hit from behind as well, because you would need to also come to a complete stop on the highway.

Red flag #1 jeep pulls out with traffic barreling down

Flag #2 the jeep straddles the lane the entire time.

If those two flags don't trigger you to ease off the gas and be cautionary then the fact your alive is a act of God.

You can contextualize the last 3 seconds and say nothing could be done, sure fine. But had the OP taken the mindset to be defensive here, they would be driving around in there maverick today.

And yea I don't try to pass cars going 30+mph than them on a two lane road.

 

[Jmav2152]

Alright Jsus, what the hell is so funny about my opinion, since you are all over this thread spouting off yours? The Jeep became an obstacle to avoid three seconds before impact. Avoidable? Not for everybody. They could have just as easily assumed they were moving slow in the right lane to turn into Dunkin or whatever. The Mav driver moving into the left lane was a reasonable initial response to the Jeep slowly entering the right lane. Then the jeep does the unexpected with three seconds to impact. I'd like to think I would have hit the breaks and avoided that accident, but it's hardly a sure thing. What about that is funny to you?

The jeep was a obstacle to avoid the moment it entered the road.......why wait to do anything until you would be right up on them?

 

[jsus]

The jeep was a obstacle to avoid the moment it entered the road.......why wait to do anything until you would be right up on them?

Why? Because defensive driving and self preservation are as common as common sense, with this thread as evidence of that.

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