Is the factory oil fill synthetic?

[Meeka]

TY! to those that just answered my question. my 06 Vette tells me right on the oil fill cap what type and weight the factory fill was, I assumed Ford did the same. YES! I am a Synthetic Fan and know more about oil then most people, just can't figure out why I can't ask a straight question without the jerk-offs jumping in? I don't know how many dino's are in natural gas as several of the major brands use NG to make Synoil.

You’re starting off on the wrong foot rookie, if you keep bitchin’ nobody is going to give you any time. Give a little, take a little, eventually someone here will give you the answer to what you asked but we all just need, once in a while to FUN a little bit. CHILL! If you’re that worried, change it, I did and many here did before the dreaded 5k mile mark! We all feel better about it. Best of luck to you and your new Mav my friend.

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[CMYSIX]

Someone so well-versed in oil might also know the OEM-specified oil is always listed in the Owner's Manual. The stickers and caps and whatnot on Corvettes and AMGs etc. are just a bonus. Not too many bonuses on a cheap truck...

have not taken delivery on the truck yet, but your right I could have got an OM online.

 

[Carlitos_92]

have not taken delivery on the truck yet, but your right I could have got an OM online.

Ah. Missed that part if you mentioned it. Anyway, I agree on the full synthetic and have used Mobil 1 for 30+ years, turbos or not. My truck just got a new fill this past weekend.

 

[dochawk]

The blend tastes like gummy THC dinosaurs! I think.

causation inversion alert!

Rather, THC gummies lead to tasting motor oil to compare flavor!

Actually synthetic contains dead dinosaurs also. But who cares about facts.

“Facts are the enemy of truth.”
--The Man of La Mancha

but we all just need, once in a while to FUN a little bit

A forum full of people who resist straight lines is rarely worth the effort to read!

 

[Meeka]

causation inversion alert!

Rather, THC gummies lead to tasting motor oil to compare flavor!





“Facts are the enemy of truth.”
--The Man of La Mancha



A forum full of people who resist straight lines is rarely worth the effort to read!

SO SIMPLE, “DELETE”!

 

[Tbone289]

Actually synthetic contains dead dinosaurs also. But who cares about facts.

That's true for Group III base oils anyway, but hopefully you can still enjoy the joke.

Technically, that isn't true for Group IV synthetics.

 

[Tbone289]

So what are they made of?
"
Are synthetic base oils magic?
Ok, that’s not what people really ask. But many falsely think synthetic base oils are not refined from crude oil and that switching to only synthetic lubricants could drastically reduce our dependence on foreign oil and non-renewable sources. If synthetic base oils aren’t made from crude oil, from what raw material are they made? Unicorn horns and rainbow dust?

Synthetic base oils are made from crude. But they’re much more highly refined than conventional base oils. The chemical reaction process used to make synthetic base oils removes the impurities inherent to conventional base oils, such as sulfur and waxes. This results in a higher-performing product that’s much better for your engine.

Science, not magic. "
https://blog.amsoil.com/are-all-synthetic-oil-groups-the-same-group-iii-vs-iv-vs-v/

True synthetic base oils (Group IV PAO) are ethelyne-based polymerized hydrocarbon. There is no "Dino" left after that process, it is chemically synthesized, thus "synthetic". They don't contain crude oil. That's why they don't taste like dinosaurs.

Similarly, synthetic polyamide fibers such as nylon which are derived from petroleum don't contain crude oil. Likewise, nylon doesn't taste like dinosaurs.

The Group III oils referred to in your blog quote are highly refined crude, so they contain crude and aren't synthesized. They can be classified as synthetic in the US, but they're not actually synthetic and can't be classified as such in other countries.

 

[Carlitos_92]

True synthetic base oils (Group IV PAO) are ethelyne-based, not crude oil based. The Group III oils you're referring to are highly refined crude. They can be classified as synthetic in the US, but they're not synthetic.

This thread has gotten JUICY!

https://www.machinerylubrication.co...oup IV base oils are,of these five API groups.

 

[Tbone289]

This thread has gotten JUICY!

https://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/29113/base-oil-groups#:~:text=Group IV base oils are,of these five API groups.

That's my favorite site for those who want to know!

 

[Alfetta159]

is it delivered with synthetic oil?

No, it's extra virgin!

 

[Tbone289]

This is an honest question so I can learn. But isn't petroleum derived from crude oil?

Petroleum is crude oil and the terms can be used interchangeably. Note that I haven't stated that synthetics aren't derived from crude oil. From a chemical perspective, what a product contains and what it's made of or derived from can be completely different subjects.

I'll summarize how we got here:

1. I made a "crude" joke about oil and it's flavors, implying that conventional oil tasted like dinosaurs because it contains petroleum, and synthetic tastes like fake dinosaurs because it is a synthesized product.
2. You made the statement that synthetics "contain dead dinosaurs". (in reference to crude oil/petroleum)
3. I further qualified that, because synthesized oils don't contain petroleum. They are synthesized from a petroleum-derived gas, but are not petroleum.
4. You then asked, "So what are they made of", which is a completely different subject than what they contain.

Group II base oils (conventional) and many Group III base oils, labelled as "Full Synthetic" in the US but not other countries, are both refined from crude oil and contain naturally-occurring petroleum-based hydrocarbons and differ by their level of refinement. They are mineral oils or "Dino oils". It is legal to label all Group III oils as full synthetic in the US. IMO, that terminology confuses the subject for the consumer because, though they perform better than a Group II base oil, not all of them are a synthesized product. Furthermore, some Group III base oils (GTL or Gas-To-Liquid) are not refined from crude, they are produced from gaseous hydrocarbons.

In the US, synthetic blend-labled products contain any combination of Group II and Group III base oils.

Group IV (PAO) synthetic base oils are composed of poly-alpha-olefins (PAOs), which are synthesized in a lab from petroleum-derived or natural gas-derived ethylene gas. Synthesis creates a completely new product (PAO) that is no longer ethylene gas. PAO isn't refined from crude oil. This process is why there is a price difference between products labelled "Full Synthetic" on Walmart shelves in the US and products that contain true PAO synthetic oils, often labelled "100% Synthetic", such as Amsoil Signature Series.

I highly recommend starting with the link that @Carlitos_92 posted above for further learning. This is a very deep subject, and my knowledge is limited enough that I'm not comfortable going into more detail than I have above. It's not easy to identify what base oils any particular motor oil labelled "Full Synthetic" contains.

 

[Tbone289]

Yes I read @Carlitos_92 link as well as the 1 I posted which you quote in your reply. Both contain the information you posted which is ALL oils derive from crude.

That is not true. GTL base stocks are derived from natural gas, as I stated above. Natural gas can be extracted in gaseous form or refined from crude. You can accurately state that they are all derived from fossil fuels, but not from crude oil.

https://www.shell.com/what-we-do/oil-and-natural-gas/gas-to-liquids.html'

 

[Tbone289]

Whatever. At this point the joke and the thread has been beaten like dead horse. At this point I really don't care because I buy the oil recommended or pay the mechanic to use the oil recommended and I am not going to produce my own so don;t really need to know how it is done. Sorry my reply to your original "joke" derailed this.

You're the one that took a perfectly fine joke and wanted to turn it into a "facts" session and then proceeded to ask questions and read articles. Why ask questions and do research if you don't care?

So, yeah, "whatever". LOL

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