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Any time your run a constant Dashcam when the vehicle is off you need a dedicated auxiliary battery for it. Running a Dashcam off the vehicle constantly will drain virtually any battery.

I run Garmin Dashcams in 5-6 of my cars and power them through the OBD with a Garmin adaptor which is programmable for 10/30/infinity after key off..


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Thank you! While I realized running the cam constantly is not good for the battery, I had no idea there's a separate power adapter to eliminate that problem. Mine's not a Garmin, but certainly appreciate the info. I'll try turning off the parking mode and see if that helps.
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^^ or spend 30 seconds checking the voltage at the pins under the hood. If the voltage is low the lights won’t work and you are in deep sleep. Eventually it will report deep sleep on the app...


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You are correct. Apparently, I turned off the deep sleep notifications from Ford Pass, but when checking the app directly, that's the message I was getting, so yes, the issue is due to deep sleep. Thank you for responding.
 
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I think he knows the battery is low but it seems like he's concerned whether or not the lights not working is directly related to deep sleep or if it's a more complicated issue altogether. What I suggested should rule out any complicated issues since I'm confident it's due to deep sleep.
Sound advice. When the lights fail to light, Ford Pass reports deep sleep when launched. I turned off notifications from this app a couple months ago which is why I didn't consider deep sleep from the get-go. Thanks to the members, I now have a pretty good idea what's causing the light fail and some ideas on how to solve it.
 

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You're right. The lights will go on by pressing the lens. My beef is that the lights will not come on automatically when one unlocks and/or opens the doors when entering the vehicle. They will automatically light up after driving and shutting the vehicle off. Odd that they will come on in one instance, but not the other. I understand the deep sleep issue if the car has been sitting for a few minutes as other members have pointed out. Clearly, something is draining the battery even after a few minutes. Auto dimming mirror?
In the case you mentioned, right after driving the battery has enough charge to light up the interior. After it's been sitting a while, the battery does not have that same level of charge so the computer doesn't allow the interior lights to come on. Probably a priority thing, Ford would rather you not have interior lights and the truck start than have interior lights and the truck not start. But it sounds like the battery is either defective, or is too small to keep the necessary level of "juice" needed for everything to work after the truck has been at rest for a period of time, which is hella annoying and should be addressed under warranty. I wonder if sitting in the hot temps of Mexico has anything to do with this?
 
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I believe NAPA makes a replacement for the Hybrid, not sure if it's AGM but it might be better than the OEM made in China battery. I replaced mine a few weeks ago with an Interstate AGM and since it's an easier to find group 48 size battery. While it doesn't address the fact that the Maverick has inherent parasitic drain probably due to modem connection and Fordpass app feature availability since I updated the BMS with Forscan to let it know that it has an AGM battery in it, it should charge faster and more efficiently than the stock lead acid battery and do a better job at replenishing the battery on short to medium distance trips.
Thank you for sharing. I will definitely add this to a possible solution. Any improvement with the battery drain using the new battery?
 

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In the case you mentioned, right after driving the battery has enough charge to light up the interior. After it's been sitting a while, the battery does not have that same level of charge so the computer doesn't allow the interior lights to come on. Probably a priority thing, Ford would rather you not have interior lights and the truck start than have interior lights and the truck not start. But it sounds like the battery is either defective, or is too small to keep the necessary level of "juice" needed for everything to work after the truck has been at rest for a period of time, which is hella annoying and should be addressed under warranty. I wonder if sitting in the hot temps of Mexico has anything to do with this?
You bring up some very valid and interesting arguments. Your 'priority' comment sounds reasonable. Better to have enough juice to start up the truck . . . not needed when exiting.
 

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This is great information! Thank you! I will definitely give this a try. Since I have a push start/off rather than a key, I'm going to assume putting it in accessory mode will do the same. Quite a procedure. I was half-expecting to see hopping around on one foot for a minute as part of the sequence of events. lol.

The "on" position is the position where all the warning lights on the dash come on. You can reach this mode by pressing the start button twice without your foot being on the brake afaik
 
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I've not been successful finding a quality replacement battery for the Hybrid Maverick.

If you find one, make certain it has a vent to vent fumes to the outside like the Motorcraft battery..

Good luck...

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The "on" position is the position where all the warning lights on the dash come on. You can reach this mode by pressing the start button twice without your foot being on the brake afaik
You are correct. I've used this procedure many times not only with the Maverick but with our Palisade that also has the push start feature. Thank you for posting. No doubt others will read your post and gain from it.
 
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honestly these batteries in the hybrid are tiny and suck...literally any draw on them after the car is off will drop it bellow 12v in a few hours...i had a dashcam in parking mode and had to put the car on a battery tender every night if i didnt want to get the deep sleep error message
I hear you. We should not need to recharge our battery every day, right?!
 
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You'd be surprised how much electrical load these new vehicles have compared to something from twenty years ago. Electric power steering alone uses a significant amount of electricity, way more than your alternator can generate in a short amount of time for a relatively short trip. Add on an electric brake booster for hybrids and ecoboost equipped with ACC, tons of electrical equipment that vehicles didn't have 20 years ago, multimedia head units and loads of modules and sensors not to mention heated seats and steering wheels now that the weather is turning. Plus it's harder to charge a battery in cold weather. This is why Ford added the BMS (Battery monitoring system), because of all the electrical load on the battery. Even if you only do medium length trips let alone short trips your Maverick is still having a hard time replenishing the battery.

On top of it all the OEM battery is straight up made in china garbage. If you're unsure of whether or not your overhead lights are related to the deep sleep mode and BMS you can reset the BMS to see if the overhead lights work again when opening the doors. To do that:

with engine off and key in the "on" position, flash high beams 5 times then press the brake pedal 3 times, after a little while you should see the battery light blink in the instrument cluster and that means the BMS has been reset. Your overhead lights should work as normal now when you open the doors or at least until the BMS puts your Maverick back into deep sleep mode. If you have a multimeter you can also easily perform a draw test to see what your auto dimming mirror is drawing with ignition off, if any.
Great tip! That worked to reset the BMS and now when I open the door or unlock, the overhead courtesy light works. You did say it might be a temporary fix, but I'm wondering since I turned off parking mode on the dash cam, resetting the BMS might last longer. I'll also check the mirror situation. Ironically, many of us owners were chastising Ford for not including an auto dimming mirror with the Maverick; perhaps now we know why.
 

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Great tip! That worked to reset the BMS and now when I open the door or unlock, the overhead courtesy light works. You did say it might be a temporary fix, but I'm wondering since I turned off parking mode on the dash cam, resetting the BMS might last longer. I'll also check the mirror situation. Ironically, many of us owners were chastising Ford for not including an auto dimming mirror with the Maverick; perhaps now we know why.
I honestly don't think it draws any power since it uses a switched wire. Most likely it's the dash cam or just the fact that the battery is utter garbage. Most new vehicles also have circuitry which allows the alternator to essentially turn off and not charge all the time since the alternator puts more load on the engine than you would probably imagine. This is in pursuit of more efficiency so manufacturers can eek out as much gas mileage as possible due to fleet standards. I don't know if this is the case with Ford but it's common practice among other manufacturers and I wouldn't be surprised if Ford is doing it as well. Add that to a trash made in China battery along with a dash cam and short to medium length trips and it's a recipe for deep sleep mode on the Ford.
 
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I honestly don't think it draws any power since it uses a switched wire. Most likely it's the dash cam or just the fact that the battery is utter garbage. Most new vehicles also have circuitry which allows the alternator to essentially turn off and not charge all the time since the alternator puts more load on the engine than you would probably imagine. This is in pursuit of more efficiency so manufacturers can eek out as much gas mileage as possible due to fleet standards. I don't know if this is the case with Ford but it's common practice among other manufacturers and I wouldn't be surprised if Ford is doing it as well. Add that to a trash made in China battery along with a dash cam and short to medium length trips and it's a recipe for deep sleep mode on the Ford.
Your comments make good sense and your point about the alternator made me ask myself, "does the Maverick even have an alternator, or is the 12v recharged from the lithium?"
 

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Your comments make good sense and your point about the alternator made me ask myself, "does the Maverick even have an alternator, or is the 12v recharged from the lithium?"
Right, you have a hybrid, I'm thinking based on my own vehicle......no alternator for you but it obviously applies to Eco Maverick owners who are experiencing the deep sleep issues.
 
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Right, you have a hybrid, I'm thinking based on my own vehicle......no alternator for you but it obviously applies to Eco Maverick owners who are experiencing the deep sleep issues.
That makes sense. Same battery used in both hybrid & Eco, so both would experience deep sleep issues. I was thinking it was only the hybrids with the issue, so thanks for the clarification.
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