If Maverick was a PHEV

[MavTime]

Mine is already a Plug In Hybrid, I have to trickle charge or I get deep sleep notifications. /s

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[The Real Maverick]

Mine is already a Plug In Hybrid, I have to trickle charge or I get deep sleep notifications. /s

Tru dat.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Mine is already a Plug In Hybrid, I have to trickle charge or I get deep sleep notifications. /s

My previous hybrid had a plug-in block heater.

Does that count?

 

[d7602002]

If t'were a phev I probably still would have gotten the Ecoboost. I'll get a plug in type vehicle when that's all that's available. That's just me though. .

 

[PNWMaverick]

Add to it that legendary Chinese quality and you've definitely got...something.

"Chinese quality" exists because that is what American executives ordered and paid for. China is just as capable at manufacturing quality as anyone else.

As it pertains to PHEV and BEV, China is doing very, very, well. There is a reason that the U.S.A introduced massive tariffs on Chinese vehicles. If they didn't do that then BYD would flood the market with affordable, and quality, vehicles that domestics couldn't compete with. Mainly due to the Chinese governmental backing of these manufacturers in an effort to mature the technology and market.

Also, go sit in a Tesla and then come talk to us about "quality."

Oh, and we are driving trucks with interiors made out of milk jugs, HDPE......

 

[oysterville]

"Chinese quality" exists because that is what American executives ordered and paid for. China is just as capable at manufacturing quality as anyone else.

As it pertains to PHEV and BEV, China is doing very, very, well. There is a reason that the U.S.A introduced massive tariffs on Chinese vehicles. If they didn't do that then BYD would flood the market with affordable, and quality, vehicles that domestics couldn't compete with. Mainly due to the Chinese governmental backing of these manufacturers in an effort to mature the technology and market.

Also, go sit in a Tesla and then come talk to us about "quality."

Oh, and we are driving trucks with interiors made out of milk jugs, HDPE......

Oh trust me, I'm very much aware of the QC issues that Elon decided was okay for the sake of simply pumping out delivery numbers. I wouldn't buy a Tesla for that reason and more.

I understand that China is indeed capable of quality if the customer is willing to pay for it, and at a cost that undercuts US manufacturers in most product types. Economically speaking China has huge advantages over the US, but at a devastating humanitarian and environmental cost.

 

[TwoTone]

While I can see the appeal for this truck (it looks spectacular on paper), I like the idea of being able to have access to the many gas stations for fueling the hybrid. I know the EV charging stations are increasing, but I hear there are long waits in line as well as the time it takes to recharge.

Didn't actually pay attention to what the op posted did ya?

 

[TwoTone]

"Chinese quality" exists because that is what American executives ordered and paid for. China is just as capable at manufacturing quality as anyone else.

As it pertains to PHEV and BEV, China is doing very, very, well. There is a reason that the U.S.A introduced massive tariffs on Chinese vehicles. If they didn't do that then BYD would flood the market with affordable, and quality, vehicles that domestics couldn't compete with. Mainly due to the Chinese governmental backing of these manufacturers in an effort to mature the technology and market.

Also, go sit in a Tesla and then come talk to us about "quality."

Oh, and we are driving trucks with interiors made out of milk jugs, HDPE......

Very convenient to ignore the reasons China can bring something to market so much cheaper.

 

[PNWMaverick]

Very convenient to ignore the reasons China can bring something to market so much cheaper.

Uuhhh.....I addressed it directly.

Let me quote myself,

that domestics couldn't compete with. Mainly due to the Chinese governmental backing

Your blind prejudice prevented you from understanding what you read.

Edit:

Do note that governments backing specific businesses in an industry for myriad reasons isn't exclusive to China. We have companies like Boeing and SpaceX that are heavily backed by the U.S. government because that is what was determined to be in the best interest of the nation. The technologies and advantages gained in doing so outweigh the cost to back them....usually....unless it is Boeing.

 

[TwoTone]

Uuhhh.....I addressed it directly.

I don't see anything in your post about labor or the environment, so you didn't address all of it.

I'll believe the quality of their vehicles once I see them crash tested.

Seen enough videos of their construction that I don't see myself in a vehicle from their anytime soon.

 

[PNWMaverick]

I don't see anything in your post about labor or the environment, so you didn't address all of it.

While this is getting way too political.....

I did address it. When someone is talking about governmental backing in these matters we aren't just talking about cash money being provided. It is...

• That sweet cash money.
• Permitting process waived/expedited.
• Civil rights abuse; like removing entire towns in the name of a project.
• Labor laws that are nonexistent. We abuse this one.
• Crackdowns on potential competition to remove them completely.

Here in the U.S. our government more or less goes with the cash money route and a little competition busting.

Again, when discussing Chinese governmental backing of a company it does indeed mean in every conceivable way.

 

[Glen Baker LLC]

Heavy air pollution, with only recent concerns about it.
Also, whole lot of decidedly cheap labor.

 

[colinl]

If you have a problem, you will have to ship it back to China! There will not be many dealers in the USA for service. That's important to me.

In my area when the Chinese scooter craze hit about ten years ago the local seller had a huge waiting list. Then the mechanical problems started, and it turned out that he didn't know how to fix them and the local motorsports shop wouldn't.

I don't think that Chinese import vehicles would end any differently.

this is already happening with Fiat and Alfa. dealerships are disappearing because of extremely poor sales and high volume of warranty repairs.

even though Fiat is the parent company of Dodge/Jeep/Chrysler, they utterly failed to build a brand in the united states. do I think some chinese car manufacturers could and would throw money at it than Fiat did?

yes, I actually do.

do I think that chinese cars will be reliable, have decent resale, and be viable to own more than 5 years? hell no.

but since I won't be buying one, just as I did not buy a Fiat or Alfa*, I'm content for chinese brands to follow all existing tariff laws, build factories in the US if they see fit or just import and pay all the taxes, and see how that goes for others.

Spoiler: *

I did I test drive an Alfa Giulia and a few years later, a Stelvio... and I liked them both, still couldn't convince myself they were worth the risk. I also test drove and quoted a Jaguar F-Pace when they first came out, and thank god I didn't get one of those, either.

 

[Montana]

The 2025 Ram 1500 Ramcharger plug-in hybrid is expected to cost between $65,000 and $100,000, depending on the trim level and any additional features or accessories. Here are some estimated prices for different trim levels:

Ramcharger Tradesman: $60,000
Ramcharger Big Horn: $65,000
Ramcharger Limited: $75,000
Ramcharger Tungsten: $95,000

I find it hilarious you had to repost this.

Spend more to save at the pump. Makes so much sense.

China is just as capable at manufacturing quality as anyone else.

Capable, sure. But they have made it very clear they don't want that. Literally over the past 50 years and the world can see it. It's got nothing to do with "blind prejudice"... save that crap for the bleeding hearts that are naive enough to believe it. I guess you'd need to be boots on ground inside China to see it, but the rest of us know their practices are much more scammy. Hence why we have two exact same companies with different names providing the same products and one is slowly "disappearing" from the forums. Mabett and Maxzina. Coincidence? No. Chinese business practices? Yes.

And this is not a gaslight for the way "western" companies handle business either, but it truly is night and day in regards to legal standards and expectations which translates to consumer reliability and longevity, and also repairability. China has no intention to warranty your product because nobody is forcing them to. They are learning how to cater to the western market, but it's still mostly a scam. The argument can be made that our apple has fallen far from the tree when it comes to corporate regulations, but their apples are not even worth picking.

 

[Dad]

Didn't actually pay attention to what the op posted did ya?

I think my statement stands whatever details were posted by the OP. My preferring a hybrid over a PHEV is a valid statement no matter the how the Shark is powered. Do you have anything of value to add or are you lurking the forums as an uninteresiting critic?

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