Ecoboost or Hybrid?

[Suzukiridr14]

I own a 23 XL Hybrid that I am very happy. I am considering buying another one for work and am not sure whether to get the ecoboost or Hybrid. I will be adding a topper or ladder rack and carrying ladders and some tool boxes. Is it worth the extra power and loss of MPG to get the ecoboost? Which one has the more reliable powertrain?

If your getting one for work, I would get whatever the standard powerplant is on a plain Jane XL . I think the ecoboost is standard now, and that's what I would choose anyway if both either were offered.

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[710-oil-614]

With the 4K tow and AWD the EB no longer makes sense unless you’re going Tremor.

But I owned a Tremor and although it was a great vehicle it is a compromised trim without low gearing or proper bumper and underbody protection.

AWD Hybrid 4K in 2025 is the only way to order a Maverick.

 

[710-oil-614]

If your getting one for work, I would get whatever the standard powerplant is on a plain Jane XL . I think the ecoboost is standard now, and that's what I would choose anyway if both either were offered.

EcoBoost is not standard engine in 2025.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

Just read threads about recalls and problems people are having. Hybrids dominate the conversation. But hopefully ford will get a handle on that.

The Hybrids certainly have had a lot of software updates and other issues, mainly with the early builds. Mine has not suffered from any of the problems the sw updates are supposed to address. And no mechanical issues at all so far, in 20k miles.
As for transmissions, my bet is that long term, the Hybrid's eCVT (loosely copied from the Toyota Prius' similar rock solid transmission), will eventually prove to be more reliable than the 8-speed in the ecoboost, that can never decide what gear to be in. Especially in city stop & go driving. Ecoboost dominates the conversation on this subject.

 

[710-oil-614]

The Hybrids certainly have had a lot of software updates and other issues, mainly with the early builds. Mine has not suffered from any of the problems the sw updates are supposed to address. And no mechanical issues at all so far, in 20k miles.
As for transmissions, my bet is that long term, the Hybrid's eCVT (loosely copied from the Toyota Prius' similar rock solid transmission), will eventually prove to be more reliable than the 8-speed in the ecoboost, that can never decide what gear to be in. Especially in city stop & go driving. Ecoboost dominates the conversation on this subject.

I would just say that the HF transmissions are not “loosely copied” from Toyota.

Ford and Toyota co-developed the eCVT technology more than two decades ago and they had shared patents.

Ford’s HF transmissions are theirs alone these days and the partnership with Toyota really no longer relevant.

 

[Johnny maverick]

The Hybrids certainly have had a lot of software updates and other issues, mainly with the early builds. Mine has not suffered from any of the problems the sw updates are supposed to address. And no mechanical issues at all so far, in 20k miles.
As for transmissions, my bet is that long term, the Hybrid's eCVT (loosely copied from the Toyota Prius' similar rock solid transmission), will eventually prove to be more reliable than the 8-speed in the ecoboost, that can never decide what gear to be in. Especially in city stop & go driving. Ecoboost dominates the conversation on this subject.

pure conjecture. Ya Priuses are known for their towing capabilities.

 

[Deleted member 37911]

I just ordered a 25' Lariat EB 2.0 AWD 4k just because I didn't want the extra battery and all the extra things that could go wrong 100k-200k miles down the road.

 

[James K]

I am always a little confused by this rationale… I have a 24 Lariat Hybrid that has had one software recall (shared with the EcoBoost) and I have the 12V battery issue but never had a problem starting my truck. Is it time to admit the newer Hybrids are is just as reliable as the same model year EcoBoosts?

Hybrids are wonderful vehicles, especially now with options of AWD and 4K. However, keep in mind you have 2 different power systems in one and that does mean you have more things that can cause an issue. I'm not sure you can state reliability is equal when there is no data that eliminates variables such as does the extra hp of EB lead to more aggressive use? Are hybrid buyers more apt to take shorter trips? I'd leave reliability out of the equation.

 

[Ozarkbeard]

I would just say that the HF transmissions are not “loosely copied” from Toyota.

Ford and Toyota co-developed the eCVT technology more than two decades ago and they had shared patents.

Ford’s HF transmissions are theirs alone these days and the partnership with Toyota really no longer relevant.

Thanks for the clarification!

 

[710-oil-614]

pure conjecture. Ya Priuses are known for their towing capabilities.

No conjecture about the simplicity AND durability of planetary gearsets.

 

[710-oil-614]

Hybrids are wonderful vehicles, especially now with options of AWD and 4K. However, keep in mind you have 2 different power systems in one and that does mean you have more things that can cause an issue. I'm not sure you can state reliability is equal when there is no data that eliminates variables such as does the extra hp of EB lead to more aggressive use? Are hybrid buyers more apt to take shorter trips? I'd leave reliability out of the equation.

I’d suggest some research on electric motors and eCVT transmissions that utilize planetary gearsets.

The 8F35 is trash. Until 2025 the EB was direct injection and suffers from carbon build up.

The hybrid drivetrain by and large is simpler, and it also has a track record of nearly two decades.

 

[Snowbird]

If the Eco boost came with a 5 speed manual or ECTV I would go with that for a work truck.

Personally I hate an automatic multi speed unless you can manually shift it. Is that possible on a stock Eco boost?

 

[PNWMaverick]

I own a 23 XL Hybrid that I am very happy. I am considering buying another one for work and am not sure whether to get the ecoboost or Hybrid. I will be adding a topper or ladder rack and carrying ladders and some tool boxes. Is it worth the extra power and loss of MPG to get the ecoboost? Which one has the more reliable powertrain?

Are you towing close to the 4K limit available on the Maverick? If you are not then I would go with the hybrid. Yes, you can get a 4K package on the '25 hybrid now, but the EB will out-tow it all day long. There is a substantial power difference.

Ecoboost could have been better in some cases before with 4K tow and awd.
Now that hybrid has both I would never consider the ecoboost. Especially if you happen to be in a state that will have a GPF on the ecoboost.

If you are towing near the 4K limit on a regular basis the EB will tow it a lot easier than the hybrid.

The eco-boost is much more reliable less recalls less issues and the extra power is fun.

We have zero indication that the EB is more reliable than the hybrid. Some of the earliest major issues (blown transmissions) were on the EBs. Outside of some standouts in the crowd both the platforms have shown to hold up well, so far.

I believe the most common issue across the trucks are the early CV axles that Ford has finally redesigned.

 

[Pete Roberts]

I own a 23 XL Hybrid that I am very happy. I am considering buying another one for work and am not sure whether to get the ecoboost or Hybrid. I will be adding a topper or ladder rack and carrying ladders and some tool boxes. Is it worth the extra power and loss of MPG to get the ecoboost? Which one has the more reliable powertrain?

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[James K]

I’d suggest some research on electric motors and eCVT transmissions that utilize planetary gearsets.

The 8F35 is trash. Until 2025 the EB was direct injection and suffers from carbon build up.

The hybrid drivetrain by and large is simpler, and it also has a track record of nearly two decades.

If you believe the hybrid has fewer parts than EB there is no sense going on with this discussion.

I’d suggest some research on electric motors and eCVT transmissions that utilize planetary gearsets.

The 8F35 is trash. Until 2025 the EB was direct injection and suffers from carbon build up.

The hybrid drivetrain by and large is simpler, and it also has a track record of nearly two decades.

I disagree with much of your reply but if you can access clean data that verifies your stance, I'll change my opinion. However, I'm pretty sure it doesn't even exist, rendering your opinion just that, with the exception of moving parts in an eCVT. but even there I suspect more lines of code.

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