Be thankful for the Mav Hybrid Power

[710-oil-614]

Actually isn't that the Engine Brake mode where the battery is NOT desired to be recharged more on long downhills?
And so the tires spin the power motor to spin the Generator motor that spins the engine to bleed off the power not to be sent to the battery.

Wheels spinning in coast already recharge the battery normally, no need for engine to be spinning to accomplish that.

Could be - to be fair I do not know the answer to that question 100% because Ford has 9 modes and so much more can be occurring within them.

In the Honda - it only revs like that to charge the HV battery because no matter what MG1 is always spinning when the ICE engine is on in a Honda hybrid. The ICE engine isn't always connected to the driveshaft though.

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[Eldrick1]

Well if Toyota wasn't cheating maybe they would have properly sized the engine!


https://apnews.com/article/toyota-c...kers-scandal-26585a96df2a32f7d67a4011a0a98772

Oh, we are talking Honda! My bad

 

[Automate]

Reducing the power or size of the Atkinson engine in the parallel hybrid system FORD uses would have a significant impact on combined available power for the Maverick.

We agree 100% on this.

What we disagree on is, what is the question we are even trying to solve.

You believe the question is, would a larger engine in the CRV solve the problem. But no one asked that question.

The OP actually never asked any question, they only stated the CRV did way worse on hills than the Mav. But the natural question that comes from this is, why is this so?

Can't we agree the answer to this question is the combination of the type of hybrid eCVT drive and more powerful ICE in the Mav gives it an advantage? That is the logical conclusion from your quoted statement above.

 

[Gunnar88]

But is the 2.4 ICE more powerful in the Maverick than the 2.0 in the CRV? I am under the impression the Ford 2.4 is a low power motor, Atkinson cycle. From the explanation of why the CRV was revving so high, to charge the batteries. Assuming the batteries were being fully charged, a more powerful motor would accomplish the same thing at a lower rpm and that would be the only difference? Honda is very capable of producing a motor that can spin twice the 7,500 RPM's the OP referenced. Assuming most people dont like to hear their car motor revving that high, maybe the Honda just isnt a good choice for towing? it was mentioned that its only rated at 1000 pounds, the Maverick is 2000, I haven't towed much but I have hauled decent amount of weight about 1000 pounds on the Freeway going 80 mph for 300 miles, I didnt track the mileage, but the Mav performed and acted normal.

 

[MoMo337]

I love my 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport-L and my 2022 Maverick Lariat Lux Hybrid. Both have plenty of "go" and I haven't noticed a difference in power honestly. If the truck has more "get up" and power it it's marginal.

The only thing I've truly noticed is the Maverick gets slightly better MPG.

 

[Automate]

I love my 2024 CRV Hybrid Sport-L and my 2022 Maverick Lariat Lux Hybrid. Both have plenty of "go" and I haven't noticed a difference in power honestly. If the truck has more "get up" and power it it's marginal.

The only thing I've truly noticed is the Maverick gets slightly better MPG.

Looks like you are on the Gulf coast. You probably would not notice the difference much unless you took it into the mountains like the OP.

 

[710-oil-614]

But is the 2.4 ICE more powerful in the Maverick than the 2.0 in the CRV? I am under the impression the Ford 2.4 is a low power motor, Atkinson cycle. From the explanation of why the CRV was revving so high, to charge the batteries. Assuming the batteries were being fully charged, a more powerful motor would accomplish the same thing at a lower rpm and that would be the only difference? Honda is very capable of producing a motor that can spin twice the 7,500 RPM's the OP referenced. Assuming most people dont like to hear their car motor revving that high, maybe the Honda just isnt a good choice for towing? it was mentioned that its only rated at 1000 pounds, the Maverick is 2000, I haven't towed much but I have hauled decent amount of weight about 1000 pounds on the Freeway going 80 mph for 300 miles, I didnt track the mileage, but the Mav performed and acted normal.

It has 14 more hp than the 2.0 Honda uses.

Honda's ICE engine is limited to a .8:1 overdrive gear ratio.

 

[MoMo337]

I've taken the CRV and the Mav to Ohio twice (once each vehicle) and Atlanta 3 times. I've been through plenty of inclines and passes. That's what I was referring to when I say I haven't noticed a difference.

But you are correct my everyday driving is usually fairly flat.

 

[Automate]

I've taken the CRV and the Mav to Ohio twice (once each vehicle) and Atlanta 3 times. I've been through plenty of inclines and passes. That's what I was referring to when I say I haven't noticed a difference.

But you are correct my everyday driving is usually fairly flat.

Thanks for the details. Assuming you went I-75 to Ohio, the highest elevation would be 2200. OP was going to 3000.

 

[Pikey87]

Honestly, I'm fully satisfied with my XL hybrids power. I'm at 15k, and There's never been a time I felt I needed more power. I can't vouch for the crv hybrid, never driven one. My wife has a Honda fit, and I tease her all the time that my mav is faster and better on gas But to be fair, that fit is like a go kart, really great to drive.

 

[jons]

Honestly, I'm fully satisfied with my XL hybrids power. I'm at 15k, and There's never been a time I felt I needed more power. I can't vouch for the crv hybrid, never driven one. My wife has a Honda fit, and I tease her all the time that my mav is faster and better on gas But to be fair, that fit is like a go kart, really great to drive.

I live at 5689 elevation and routinely take the Maverick over 10000 in the mountains around me. Sure wish it came with 4x4. It has plenty of power even when hauling 1200 pounds of sand (does sag ). Sadly driving 80-90 mph on the highway kills the mileage so I see around 37mpg. Wish it came with a larger battery so when you are going down the mountain you could capture more charge.

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