Anyone done Memory Seats?

[mapnerd]

pleae keep us posted.

Here are some wiring diagrams I got before.
Looking at these, it seems the recliner motor, in our Mavericks, have a sensor in them. If so, you might be able to test with that.

First one is the Maverick; 6-way seat.

Escape 10 way power seat

These 2 are Escape again. They show the details of the sensor wire versus the motor itself.

For reference, 10 way power without seat memory

This what the Escape power passenger looks like.

This is the memory seat switch.

Do you happen to have Bronco Sport wiring diagrams? They are also on the C2 platform and may have shared components and I’ve had better luck finding wrecked 2022-2024 Bronco Sports with memory seats than I have wrecked 2022-2024 Escape.

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[Joylove]

pleae keep us posted.

Here are some wiring diagrams I got before.
Looking at these, it seems the recliner motor, in our Mavericks, have a sensor in them. If so, you might be able to test with that.

First one is the Maverick; 6-way seat.

Escape 10 way power seat

These 2 are Escape again. They show the details of the sensor wire versus the motor itself.

For reference, 10 way power without seat memory

This what the Escape power passenger looks like.

This is the memory seat switch.

These are useful. It’s promising that the seats use the same pins for the non-memory seats. What’s less good is that it looks like a Drivers Door Module (DDM) is needed along with a Driver Seat Module (DSM) and that they need a good amount of added wiring including through the doors and back to the fuse box.

 

[mapnerd]

These are useful. It’s promising that the seats use the same pins for the non-memory seats. What’s less good is that it looks like a Drivers Door Module (DDM) is needed along with a Driver Seat Module (DSM) and that they need a good amount of added wiring including through the doors and back to the fuse box.

Same thoughts. Signed up at Bronco6g even though I don't have a Bronco bc someone there posted the non-memory diagrams and I wanted to DM them to see if they have the diagrams for seats with memory. Still, appears some Forscan mods might also be needed. This will be a more involved project than I thought.

I think my initial approach is just to get the motors with feedback from car-part.com off of a Bronco Sport that has memory seats and see if I can wire them up to an Auduino relay with a momentary rocker or push button switch. Arduino programming is nbd. Hoping that might allow me to skip messing with the DDM and Forscan. Hopefully the Bronco motors connect to the Mav seats without any needed mods

 

[Joylove]

Same thoughts. Signed up at Bronco6g even though I don't have a Bronco bc someone there posted the non-memory diagrams and I wanted to DM them to see if they have the diagrams for seats with memory. Still, appears some Forscan mods might also be needed. This will be a more involved project than I thought.

I think my initial approach is just to get the motors with feedback from car-part.com off of a Bronco Sport that has memory seats and see if I can wire them up to an Auduino relay with a momentary rocker or push button switch. Arduino programming is nbd. Hoping that might allow me to skip messing with the DDM and Forscan. Hopefully the Bronco connect to the seats without any needed mods

Have you used the parts catalog as a cross reference? You may find the same part number is used on Bronco as Maverick. Then you don’t need to buy the motors cos you have it already.

 

[EffNo50]

Same thoughts. Signed up at Bronco6g even though I don't have a Bronco bc someone there posted the non-memory diagrams and I wanted to DM them to see if they have the diagrams for seats with memory. Still, appears some Forscan mods might also be needed. This will be a more involved project than I thought.

I think my initial approach is just to get the motors with feedback from car-part.com off of a Bronco Sport that has memory seats and see if I can wire them up to an Auduino relay with a momentary rocker or push button switch. Arduino programming is nbd. Hoping that might allow me to skip messing with the DDM and Forscan. Hopefully the Bronco connect to the seats without any needed mods

Watching with interest

 

[mapnerd]

Have you used the parts catalog as a cross reference? You may find the same part number is used on Bronco as Maverick. Then you don’t need to buy the motors cos you have it already.

they probably are the same, but the critical difference is that they are probably the same motors used for Bronco Sports & Escapes that don’t have memory seats. Motors with a feedback sensor are a bit more expensive so I highly doubt they would be the same and according to the wiring diagrams, they almost certainly aren’t.

BUT if someone has access and can confirm one way or the other, that would be helpful.

already sent some quote requests to a scrap yard that had a bronco sport with memory to get my hands on the motors and connectors.

 

[Maverick123]

already sent some quote requests to a scrap yard that had a bronco sport with memory to get my hands on the motors and connectors.

maybe they would also sell you the modules for a reasonable price?

PS could you install the OEM module for the memory controls in the dashboard, to avoid fishing wires into the doors?

 

[mapnerd]

maybe they would also sell you the modules for a reasonable price?

PS could you install the OEM module for the memory controls in the dashboard, to avoid fishing wires into the doors?

I suppose all of it could go anywhere you wanted. Ford usually likes to put the DDM in the door (eg memory buttons) and the DSM under the seat but as long as everything is connected properly, it shouldn’t matter where any of the components are other than the motors (duh)

I’m honestly trying to avoid messing with a DSM and DDM though. If I can get it working with an Arduino that will be good enough for me. They are pretty reliable little buggers and the boot time is really fast (typically less than 2 seconds)

my rough plan (assuming I can get it working) is to install a momentary rocker or momentary push button switch either on the seat itself or in an inconspicuous location, perhaps inside the center console. I’ll then write a small Arduino program that does the following:
- when push button is pressed and held for 2+ seconds, pull the feedback positions from the motors and store them in memory (most likely EEPROM) and make an audible chirp once the positions are saved
- when the push button is pressed and released in less than 2 seconds, recall the saved seat positions and then move the seat to the saved positions, likely one motor at a time (track, then height, then recline)
- when the push button is pressed while the seat is in motion, stop all movement
- monitor current draw during movement and if draw spikes above a certain amount, stop movement (obstacle detection)

this is the rough idea at least. All depends on getting the motors, and doing a fair amount of testing and making sure I can wire in the arduino safely and that I can get the relative seat positions. Will be an interesting project to tinker with.

As much as I would like an OEM style setup, I think it’s a lot more effort than I am willing to take on at the moment.

 

[mapnerd]

Also switch goes in an inconspicuous location because I will not tell my wife about it, otherwise she will program it with her seat position

 

[Maverick123]

Also switch goes in an inconspicuous location because I will not tell my wife about it, otherwise she will program it with her seat position

 

[Mabcim]

Do you happen to have Bronco Sport wiring diagrams? They are also on the C2 platform and may have shared components and I’ve had better luck finding wrecked 2022-2024 Bronco Sports with memory seats than I have wrecked 2022-2024 Escape.

I do not. I got these from https://cardiagn.com/, which is a free website. I just checked, and they don’t have Bronco Sport on there. But being the same platform, they will be the same. Ford has probably even used the same motor in other Fords. I do know the floor pans on the Maverick and Escape are the same, because I have one and compared them; floors mats are an exact fit. Footwell and fuse box area is even the same.

 

[Mabcim]

I suppose all of it could go anywhere you wanted. Ford usually likes to put the DDM in the door (eg memory buttons) and the DSM under the seat but as long as everything is connected properly, it shouldn’t matter where any of the components are other than the motors (duh)

I’m honestly trying to avoid messing with a DSM and DDM though. If I can get it working with an Arduino that will be good enough for me. They are pretty reliable little buggers and the boot time is really fast (typically less than 2 seconds)

my rough plan (assuming I can get it working) is to install a momentary rocker or momentary push button switch either on the seat itself or in an inconspicuous location, perhaps inside the center console. I’ll then write a small Arduino program that does the following:
- when push button is pressed and held for 2+ seconds, pull the feedback positions from the motors and store them in memory (most likely EEPROM) and make an audible chirp once the positions are saved
- when the push button is pressed and released in less than 2 seconds, recall the saved seat positions and then move the seat to the saved positions, likely one motor at a time (track, then height, then recline)
- when the push button is pressed while the seat is in motion, stop all movement
- monitor current draw during movement and if draw spikes above a certain amount, stop movement (obstacle detection)

this is the rough idea at least. All depends on getting the motors, and doing a fair amount of testing and making sure I can wire in the arduino safely and that I can get the relative seat positions. Will be an interesting project to tinker with.

As much as I would like an OEM style setup, I think it’s a lot more effort than I am willing to take on at the moment.

I am a-little hesitant to play with the door stuff as well.
And I agree, Arduino stuff is easy. I had fun and went that route to disable Auto S/S: https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...-default-to-a-drive-mode-my-‘25-update.31556/

 

[mapnerd]

So far, it looks like the Escape, Bronco Sport and Maverick do share a lot of the same seat assembly components. For example, Bronco sports with power seats that don't have memory seats use the same seat motor as the Maverick. That's promsing to me that the seat tracks are probably going to be the same, despite the fact that the seat tracks are different part numbers between the two which I assume is because they have different bolt points to mount to the vehicle floor.

These motor are proving difficult to source. I've called several scrap yards and every one I've found that had a Bronco Sport with memory seats, the seats had already been pulled and sold.

I also called my local dealer just to get an idea of whether the motors could even be bought. The track motor does come as a separate assembly on the Bronco sport but the Height and Recline motors do not. The height motor is included as part of the Seat Track assembly and the Recline motor is included as part of the Seat Back assembly. So there's no just buying the motor buy itself as there is no part number for the motor by itself, at least not one that my dealer can provide. Obviously buying any of these components new is cost prohibitive. Just the track motor (MU5Z14547B) is $220 online. The most I'm probably willing to spend is $60-80 per motor.

I do think this is entirely feasible using an Arduino but getting the parts is actually turning out to be the first hurdle. Unfortunately I've also semi-confirmed that the motors are not the same between units with and without memory seats in that the part numbers are different, but that could also simply be a matter of pinning and harnesses. It's hard to truly confirm without having both motors in hand.

 

[HeyBales]

Not even the MY25s have memory seats and I don’t expect the MY26s will either. Even if they did, I just purchased mine a little less than a month ago so trading ain’t happening. I tend to drive my vehicles til the wheels fall off. Unfortunately, with the CV failure rates these things are seeing, that might actually happen literally.

Did he mean trade in the vehicle?

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