2L Horsepower

[JBL14]

Too much hp is never enough

Depends.......My front wheel drive Chrysler 200 has 285 hp.
So much power on a smallish sedan causes a weird annoying torque steer, occasionally.

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[PNWMaverick]

I'm already dealing with the turbo lag on takeoff...

What?!

So you have never driven an 80's, 90's, or early 2000's turbo charged car?

The turbo on the 2.0 EB is incredibly tiny at, I think, 40mm. It is fully spooled by 1800 RPM and you are around 90% at ~1450 RPM. There is basically no turbo lag on the EB Maverick.

 

[colinl]

What?!

So you have never driven an 80's, 90's, or early 2000's turbo charged car?

The turbo on the 2.0 EB is incredibly tiny at, I think, 40mm. It is fully spooled by 1800 RPM and you are around 90% at ~1450 RPM. There is basically no turbo lag on the EB Maverick.

boy, I've gotten tired of trying to argue that point with others. I've even posted datalogs from my accessport showing that it isn't turbo lag.

it's the transmission. specifically, 2 common scenarios:

taking off from a dead stop it will not accept brake-torquing (limits you to 3 psi boost) so it's nothing like an AWD launch you would get from many vehicles including a Focus RS, a WRX, etc.

driving around at low throttle 10-40 mph if you stomp the gas it will hesitate before shifting down.

 

[Nw_adventure]

boy, I've gotten tired of trying to argue that point with others. I've even posted datalogs from my accessport showing that it isn't turbo lag.

it's the transmission. specifically, 2 common scenarios:

taking off from a dead stop it will not accept brake-torquing (limits you to 3 psi boost) so and it's nothing like an AWD launch you would get from many vehicles including a Focus RS, a WRX, etc.

driving around at low throttle 10-40 mph if you stomp the gas it will hesitate before shifting down.

Its totally the transmission and I wish it could be reprogrammed easier -

 

[Chapystick]

I would like to see/hear it as well.

this is extremely good news for people who don't live in a state using california emissions, but honestly, if I had a new ecoboost delivered, I'd crawl under there for a look to see if there is a GPF. it is immediately downstream of the catalytic converter and should be very obvious.

That’s definitely what I’ll be doing when I go to pick mine up. I wish I could hollow the thing out immediately but I’m sure it has sensors that would get really mad if I did that

 

[Packer Bill]

I would like to see/hear it as well.

this is extremely good news for people who don't live in a state using california emissions, but honestly, if I had a new ecoboost delivered, I'd crawl under there for a look to see if there is a GPF. it is immediately downstream of the catalytic converter and should be very obvious.

Here is the link to the discussion on who gets the Gas Particulate Filter (Ford Video Guy is a part of this discussion): GPF discussion

 

[KEMeyer]

If you live in Iowa, the 25 Maverick will not have a GPF. There are 21 states where the GPF will have it installed. The Ford Video Guy has a video that talks about this.

Thanks. Good to know.

 

[Stupak]

I just recently started filling regularly with 91-94 and it does make a difference.

Living in Mx, we have only 87 and 91; I'm always 91+. It seems to run great.

What?!

So you have never driven an 80's, 90's, or early 2000's turbo charged car?

The turbo on the 2.0 EB is incredibly tiny at, I think, 40mm. It is fully spooled by 1800 RPM and you are around 90% at ~1450 RPM. There is basically no turbo lag on the EB Maverick.

Actually, I had a very early turbocharged BMW Five Series that caught fire on the freeway! Denin turbocharged it in Houston and drove it back to California. However, after a few thousand miles, it was burnt toast. Regarding the tiny turbo lag, please tell that to the people who almost hit me in the traffic circle. It's very significant. Cheers. PS This has been covered in several threads here and is a common complaint.

 

[Chapystick]

Regarding the tiny turbo lag, please tell that to the people who almost hit me in the traffic circle. It's very significant. Cheers. PS This has been covered in several threads here and is a common complaint.

As someone else mentioned, it’s more than likely cutting or laying back the torque spike that the small turbo can provide to keep the transmission from shattering to bits, on top of regular automatic transmission delays when downshifting.

 

[84IM]

Depends.......My front wheel drive Chrysler 200 has 285 hp.
So much power on a smallish sedan causes a weird annoying torque steer, occasionally.

I had about the same amount of hp in my 1990 Mazda Miata (warmed over 302 Mustang motor conversion) and I never thought it was too much power.

 

[Chapystick]

Depends.......My front wheel drive Chrysler 200 has 285 hp.
So much power on a smallish sedan causes a weird annoying torque steer, occasionally.

that’s suspension geometry/scrub radius related, not the power’s fault

 

[Kobeck]

Lol, my last Ranger had 143hp and weighed 200+ lbs, less.
My Mav feels like a "Rocket" compared to that..
Can't have TOO Much..

Jerry

my 1994 Ranger claimed to have 100 hp... no chance...
had 85 mph as top speed in instrument cluster... but it was a theory
could not make it to 80 with a tail wind

but that Lima is a mule ... +330,000 miles and engine runs fine still

 

[KJWOLKE2010]

How many of you are actually filling with 91 octane or higher to realize the full 250hp?

80% of you are probably already driving the 225hp version by filling with 87.

I spent too much money on the livernois tune to only run 87

 

[KJWOLKE2010]

Easily fixed with a "Type R" decal.

Touche

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Think there are like 11 states that follow California emissions. Possible the manufacturers will just make all of the cars the make complient.

California has announced the demise of the gasoline engine. Think about the cost/gallon if you have an old gasoline vehicle and you have to go out of state to fill up.

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