2024 axle issues

[Cherokee]

No it’s called CYA with as little effort as possible. All I have to do is hand them my Maverick and drink coffee while they do the work.
It will make it to 100,000 miles without me doing a thing. With piece of mind.
Then I’ll trade in and get a new toy.

You buy auto insurance right !
Same thing but works out to only $27 per month. To stay under warranty out to that holy grail of 100,000 miles.
Let me say that again.
One Hundred Thousand Miles all under warranty.
You should be able to feel the piece of mind just thinking about it.
This is the way.

You sure do put slot if effort into calling someone out on their previous posts.
I think that’s just a little bit creepy in a Jason or Freddie Kruger sort of way I don’t know.
But don’t stop, it make things interesting.

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[710-oil-614]

No it’s called CYA with as little effort as possible. All I have to do is hand them my Maverick and drink coffee while they do the work.
It will make it to 100,000 miles without me doing a thing. With piece of mind.
Then I’ll trade in and get a new toy.

You buy auto insurance right !
Same thing but works out to only $27 per month. To stay under warranty out to that holy grail of 100,000 miles.
Let me say that again.
One Hundred Thousand Miles all under warranty.
You should be able to feel the piece of mind just thinking about it.
This is the way.

You sure do put slot if effort into calling someone out on their previous posts.
I think that’s just a little bit creepy in a Jason or Freddie Kruger sort of way I don’t know.
But don’t stop, it make things interesting.

I don’t know. Remembering a comment you made from a thread I just read and taking a screenshot in 15 seconds doesn’t qualify as a lot of effort to me….

But effort is a sliding scale and I know some really don’t like to do much of anything.

 

[Cherokee]

I sometimes wish I could still do my own auto repair and maintenance.
Arthritis makes turning wrenches, how shall I say, unpleasant.

But I did put my mud flaps on yesterday.
no real torque to deal with.

Fwiw I keep my 230,000 miles on the clock 2004 Escape in good shape incase my Maverick detonates.

 

[KEMeyer]

2024s do not have the upgraded axles installed from the factory.

2024s will fail (hopefully under warranty) and you'll need to have them replaced with the upgraded axles at that time.

Just buy a 2025.

So, am I correct in assuming the axel issue applies to EB as well as hybrids?

 

[710-oil-614]

So, am I correct in assuming the axel issue applies to EB as well as hybrids?

To an extent, but MUCH less.

Can’t recall which member here did the comparison but basically the hybrids and ecoboost (non tremor) used a different internal design than the Tremor, which is a cheaper and less durable design.

The Tremor internals are different and it is slightly thicker in some spots of the axle.

On 22-24s, ecoboost non-tremor CV axles were a direct swap out with the Tremor but the Hybrids CV axles were significantly shorter. The theory is that the shorter length would cause the axle to back out of its collar causing failure.

This is further supported by the fact that the new updated CV axle for hybrids is significantly longer than the problematic CV axles.

If you own an ecoboost you’re not likely to see failure at the rate hybrid owners do but if you do, spend the extra money and upgrade to the Tremor CVs.

 

[KEMeyer]

To an extent, but MUCH less.

Can’t recall which member here did the comparison but basically the hybrids and ecoboost (non tremor) used a different internal design than the Tremor, which is a cheaper and less durable design.

The Tremor internals are different and it is slightly thicker in some spots of the axle.

On 22-24s, ecoboost non-tremor CV axles were a direct swap out with the Tremor but the Hybrids CV axles were significantly shorter. The theory is that the shorter length would cause the axle to back out of its collar causing failure.

This is further supported by the fact that the new updated CV axle for hybrids is significantly longer than the problematic CV axles.

If you own an ecoboost you’re not likely to see failure at the rate hybrid owners do but if you do, spend the extra money and upgrade to the Tremor CVs.

Thanks for the details.

 

[Cidecar2]

Hybrids? I wouldn’t touch a 22-24 with their axle issues and deep sleep cheap flooded cell 12v.

There is a design defect with the 22-24 axles. They are too short and back out, stripping the splines.

Knowing there is inherently a design flaw that Ford has addressed with an upgraded cv axle for replacements and the 2025s -

I wouldn’t buy a 2024 knowing what we know now. I would not buy a used 22-24 hybrid either. It’s a personal choice. Everyone does what they feel is best for them.

If the axles fail under warranty are they replaced with the new longer ones, anyone know?

 

[710-oil-614]

If the axles fail under warranty are they replaced with the new longer ones, anyone know?

Yes, now they will be. Until about 6-8 weeks they were not and for awhile there was a parts shortage during transition.

 

[Oscarcat]

Yes it is for 22-24 hybrid cv axles. There is a design defect. It’s too short and it backs out of the collar and that’s when failure occurs.

Hybrids also had an entirely different design than EcoBoost and Tremor.

Those CV axles are going to fail.

710-oil-614 = Question: On hybrids, regarding "all are going to fail", some have experienced failure early on. Others, including me with a '24 hybrid, 10k miles, have not.

Is the variable here the the type of driving surface? Meaning, those who drive on unpaved or rutted surfaces where the travel of the front CV axle in and out is greater are likely to experience failure sooner due to the CV axle being too short? I'm trying to understand the issue.

And, any idea if the owners of hybrids with the failure prone CV axles can request a repair under warranty before failure since it sounds like an inherent design flaw?

 

[710-oil-614]

710-oil-614 = Question: On hybrids, regarding "all are going to fail", some have experienced failure early on. Others, including me with a '24 hybrid, 10k miles, have not.

Is the variable here the the type of driving surface? Meaning, those who drive on unpaved or rutted surfaces where the travel of the front CV axle in and out is greater are likely to experience failure sooner due to the CV axle being too short? I'm trying to understand the issue.

And, any idea if the owners of hybrids with the failure prone CV axles can request a repair under warranty before failure since it sounds like an inherent design flaw?

I can’t speculate on what causes the failure beyond it being an inferior part but obviously driving the Maverick harder is going to present more opportunities for wear and failure.

I don’t think you’ll be successful getting them replaced without symptoms of them failing but the positive news is that if you go out of warranty the replacements should resolve your issues long term.

also worth considering a Ford protect extended service plan if you are nearing 36k on your originals.

 

[Master Blaster]

There's a lot of horseshit being flung around in this topic, mostly by people who have not actually experienced or fixed a real halfshaft problem. Can anybody with replaced halfshafts please post pictures of what failed? Halfshafts normally fail at the joints with overtorqued ball cages or extreme wear due to lubrication failure when the broken boot leaks. These statements about what's going to fail because they walk out of their collars seem like an awful lot of B.S., and I'd like to see some real pics of the torn-up splines and the transmission output shaft damage that would result.

 

[OleFordGuy]

There's a lot of horseshit being flung around in this topic, mostly by people who have not actually experienced or fixed a real halfshaft problem. Can anybody with replaced halfshafts please post pictures of what failed? Halfshafts normally fail at the joints with overtorqued ball cages or extreme wear due to lubrication failure when the broken boot leaks. These statements about what's going to fail because they walk out of their collars seem like an awful lot of B.S., and I'd like to see some real pics of the torn-up splines and the transmission output shaft damage that would result.

Yep 100% correct on BS in this thread, especially all those engine blowups. NUTS

 

[skinnyboy]

There's a lot of horseshit being flung around in this topic, mostly by people who have not actually experienced or fixed a real halfshaft problem. Can anybody with replaced halfshafts please post pictures of what failed? Halfshafts normally fail at the joints with overtorqued ball cages or extreme wear due to lubrication failure when the broken boot leaks. These statements about what's going to fail because they walk out of their collars seem like an awful lot of B.S., and I'd like to see some real pics of the torn-up splines and the transmission output shaft damage that would result.

Would also like to know how the original shafts were failing. I kept waiting for mine to fail, but decided to get it sorted before the powertrain warranty was up. The passenger side has been weeping grease at the clamp since new, 87,000 km now. No vibration or sign of failure. Dealer changed the shaft under warranty due to the leak yesterday, no questions asked. There have certainly been quite a few owners reporting failed shafts here, and the parts situation didn't sound good for a while. Took 2 days to get this week, so supply issue seems resolved.

Cheers.

 

[710-oil-614]

There's a lot of horseshit being flung around in this topic, mostly by people who have not actually experienced or fixed a real halfshaft problem. Can anybody with replaced halfshafts please post pictures of what failed? Halfshafts normally fail at the joints with overtorqued ball cages or extreme wear due to lubrication failure when the broken boot leaks. These statements about what's going to fail because they walk out of their collars seem like an awful lot of B.S., and I'd like to see some real pics of the torn-up splines and the transmission output shaft damage that would result.

Then why are the replacement upgraded axles significantly longer? You can throw shit on it all you want but all you've done is question me without providing any sort of proof.

If the length of the CV axle is not an issue - why did Ford make it longer?

 

[710-oil-614]

For all you naysayers - have a scoop of that BS you’ve dropped in here.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...dard-cv-vs-tremor-cv-comparison-photos.55795/

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...-replacement-tear-down-tips-on-diy-ing.53507/

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