10/6/22 Scheduling Canceled

[bill67]

I live near Moscow (Michigan) and I can definitely say that your vehicle isn't in this area

I'm sorry Moscow Russia. But thanks for looking out for me.

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[KeinoDoggy]

Sad trombone noises

 

[MvrkECWI]

I was an optimist for the first 52 weeks of waiting now, not so much.

 

[Shakesbear]

I don’t expect any 23MY rolling off until week of dec 5th or maybe 12th.
I think it’s a mistake for Ford to have resources diverted to the electric vehicles like the f150 lightning right now.

Nobody is going to get a '23 this year. Nobody!!

 

[Maverick2023]

to all MY23...suckerrrrrrsss

 

[jibbersmav]

That was a horrible movie. Portrayed American workers like a bunch of bumbling idiots.

Are you out of your mind? No movie with Clint Howard is bad. And let me tell you a little recent story from a major powersports manufacture that I have done some legal work for. Lots of premature crankcase failures had a lot head scratching going on. The failures made no sense, and the costs were adding up. The problem was so widespread that the recall team was convened, but they needed a solution first. And they needed to identify the problem before that.

Anyways, after lots of futile investigating, I was walking the line with one of the execs, just shooting the breeze. We both noticed something at the same time and walked right over to it.

"Sir, can you explain what is going on here? What are you doing with all of these bolts dumped out?"

"Well ya see, I figured out a much faster way of doing this station. It's really neat, watch: instead of putting the bolts in the case, torqueing them, then marking with the paint pen, I just dump the whole box out, mark a paint line on all of them, then I can just fly putting them in cases and moving the closed cases down the line."

We were beside ourselves. "Ok, this case over here, have you torqued all these bolts to spec?"

"Iiiiiiii thiiink so? Maybe, but I am pretty sure I did the one next to it, but not 100% sure."

I will spare you the details of the following asinine discussion with this guy, but suffice to say he really thought he was some genius who figured out a great way to do things. After we slowly explained that the entire purpose for the paint was so that he, and other line workers would know those bolts needed no further torqueing, he still looked absolutely confused. It was like we were speaking chinese to him.

His daily box of painted bolts made their way to other stations on the line, and to other shifts.

The point of this story is not this one moron, but the fact that he was not fired because his replacement would likely be worse. He was an average worker, a bad one, but average nonetheless.

This is true for manufacturing facilities across the country. These facilities are often located in rural areas where the prevailing beliefs are that vaccines have microchips and Joe Biden is actually in prison and is being played by a GOP hired lookalike. These are not centers of intelligence or critical thinking.

And going back to the 80s, and seeing line conditions then as well, Gung Ho could have passed as a documentary.

end rant.

Edited to add: the teams that work on idiotproofing the assembly lines have been fighting their never ending war since assembly lines were invented. Every time they plug a hole, the line crew finds a new way to bork it up.

 

[IdahoDirtFarmer]

It is what it is. I figured I'd be lucky to get mine by October 2023. If it came any sooner, I'd call it a win. Every day though I am more glad I ordered a Bronco Sport a few days later. At least I'll have a going to town rig while I wait in the Maverick.

 

[skadizzle]

What a bunch of pessimists. Ford launched a new product in the middle of a worldwide pandemic the world has not seen the likes of in the past century. Production was being tooled and set up when we couldn’t even get toilet paper. I think they’ve done remarkably well all things considered.
I’m not sure what the average club memeber does for a living, but in my world 50 week lead times are becoming the norm on standard configurable product that is far less complicated than an automobile.

Says the person who just ordered for the first time a couple weeks ago. Give it time.

I work in the development and construction industry, so I understand the new lead times as well. We used to order a metal building and have it delivered in 3 or 4 months. Now we have to order a building before we've even submitted for a building permit because we are looking at 8 or 9 months. Oh and the price you may be 50% more by the time it's delivered because steel prices are going up every hour.

 

[Impetus19]

Nobody is going to get a '23 this year. Nobody!!

I dont think anyone will even get one 1Q23

 

[Driverdown13]

Yea Ditto

 

[commadorebob]

If Ford builds 8,000 - 9,000 a month, by definition at least 10% of all retail orders will be constructed by the end of the year. By the end of March, half of all retail orders will have been built.

Constraints will dictate what gets built but something will be built. Some of us are going to wait a year. Some of us are going to be surprised our truck arrives early.

That Ford waited to do scheduling isn't that big of a surprise given the leftover MY22 left to build. It's very likely they did not want to risk telling the MY23 orders a week production would start just to have to immediately delay it so they can get the rest of the MY22 built.

Two things Tim said: 1) If Ford scheduled MY22 for 11/14, there would have to be a midweek retool and 2) Ford appears to be holding some of their capacity back to account for delays. My opinion is Ford simply made the decision to just go ahead and make 11/14 a MY22 week only and schedule MY23 starting the next week.

We'll find out Monday.

 

[scottp01]

What a bunch of pessimists. Ford launched a new product in the middle of a worldwide pandemic the world has not seen the likes of in the past century. Production was being tooled and set up when we couldn’t even get toilet paper. I think they’ve done remarkably well all things considered.
I’m not sure what the average club memeber does for a living, but in my world 50 week lead times are becoming the norm on standard configurable product that is far less complicated than an automobile.

Well, I work in VIP IT setup, support and home automation. and if I designed a system for a customer, gave them a price and financing terms, and a lead time of 4-6 months (per my dealer), then months later proceeded to tell them that I have no idea when I will have the parts to build their system, that their price has gone up and the financing will now cost them thousands of dollars more over the term of the loan, I would not have a job anymore and the company I work for would probably be sued.

Meanwhile fanboys on this site continue to defend Ford when they just pulled a huge bait and switch on 22 holdovers. The pandemic was well underway when Ford started taking orders for the Maverick. The chip shortage was nothing new and analysts in 2021 were saying it would last well into 2023, and that was before the variants.

And this ignores their assanine allocation system that saw January orders getting scheduled while there are orders from June still waiting.

Ford shouldn't have taken orders for trucks they couldn't produce. Don't have the chips for luxury packages? Tell your dealers they can't order those packages.

If the Maverick was a Kickstarter campaign, I would expect this level of failure, not from a multi-billion dollar company.

 

[tdonch]

What a bunch of pessimists. Ford launched a new product in the middle of a worldwide pandemic the world has not seen the likes of in the past century. Production was being tooled and set up when we couldn’t even get toilet paper. I think they’ve done remarkably well all things considered.
I’m not sure what the average club memeber does for a living, but in my world 50 week lead times are becoming the norm on standard configurable product that is far less complicated than an automobile.

IMO this is more about an issue of Globalism than the pandemic. Yes, countries like China are using that excuse to stomp down or eradicate their dissenters and in turn hurt the US. Ford like other big companies, got way too dependent on just-in-time manufacturing with sources spanning the globe. Now with the war on energy and the supply chains broke, there is an active unwinding that will take years to sort out.

I believe the Maverick was an unexpected hit and it will take time to build up production to match demand. Or demand will dwindle to the point to allow production to catch up. I've seen no discussions on what they are doing to correct the production issue. All I hear is Ford is laying off and I have to conclude this product is not profitable enough or since it is the ICE business will never see production increased.

As someone that has been standing in line for almost a year. I've been disappointed with the lack of communication and when they do send an email it is very cryptic or says nothing but sorry it is taking so long. It feels like an afterthought. I do very much appreciate that Ford attempted to take care of customers that did not have their MY22 orders fulfilled with a private offer for MY23. However, there were a number of dealers that did not fill out the necessary paperwork (like COVP) and therefore those customers were not provided private offers. Plus, many of us had to get back in line and depend on the dealers to do the right thing to properly prioritize orders for those of us that been waiting to have a chance to be some of the first selected for MY23.

Although, I had to get back in line, I was one of the fortunate ones and will continue to wait. But. I understand people on this forum feel the desire to vent that frustration. Just my two cents.

 

[pndwind]

A little off topic, what state do you live in? Because I'm not going there!!! LoL

I live mostly in the state of confusion.
That spider greeted me when I opened the door to my carport. It was pretty big and I’ve not tried to figure out what kind it was.
The freakiest one to me here in Alabama is the the Golden Orb Weaver. They get almost as big as my hand.
I love Garfield.

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