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That's a unibody small pick up?

You failed to notice that even though the new 4Runner is based on it, they don't offer a manual it.
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Only Lobo gets fog lights? They are such a basic feature. Their continued exclusion points to some childhood trauma affecting the Ford design team. Hopefully they will get some therapy before the next refresh.
Thank goodness for the DD aftermarket fog light kit. Affordable ($300 complete) and fairly easy to install.
 

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on slick roads (rain/snow) will help..
Yes, very helpful. I've been doing some test-driving with my new Maverick and have found that even on wet, tight switchback turns, the intelligent AWD really works seamlessly. It takes a lot of effort to get a front wheel to even think about losing grip without the back joining in. Very effective, and much better than my FWD Escape. Hard to compare to my F-150 - as long as I had it in 4-auto, it had plenty of grip also.
 

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Well, it's nice to finally get confirmation for anyone that was begging for a Hybrid AWD option. What threw me by surprise was that it's the standard powertrain on the XL and XLT just like it was the first model year. But with addition of AWD, it will be a massive sales success. It'll still take some time to get used to the new front fascia which makes me want to visit my dealer to see it in person. Maybe my opinion will change as that's been the case with vehicles in the past.

I am disappointed to see the physical climate controls disappear and replaced with touch capacitive ones that not only do you have to take your eyes off the road for, they'll leave fingerprints every time you use them. Big deal breaker for me. Although it is nice to have wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto compatibility. Not to mention the big screen with better graphics, nicer camera, and newer/more responsive software. The blue trim on the XLTs look a lot better than the orange. But now the orange transferred itself to the Lariat. That'll be interesting. Brown with orange? That'll clash. But the blue does look good with most colors and doesn't look as cheap, at least in my opinion.

The price bump comes as no surprise. Considering the new features they've added, it was to be expected. But I still can't help but cringe at the starting price. $27K and change for the cheapest one as oppose to the $21K starting price just three years ago is absurd. I realize you have to consider inflation and added features over the years but a $6K bump still seems a bit steep. That's an average increase of $2K per year.

Although I'm not the biggest fan of the front fascia, I am happy that not only are they finally offering Eruption Green, they brought back Velocity Blue which was only available for 2022 and then immediately replaced with Atlas Blue. My dad and I always enjoyed that color. I'm glad they resurrected an old color which is rare for manufacturers to do. It is sad to see my Hot Pepper Red discontinued along with Cactus Grey. That was my mom's favorite color. I'm guessing Space White Metallic is its replacement?

Overall, it's a very solid refresh with some shortcomings but it still won't stop it from being the best-selling midsizer in the segment, although I have a hard time calling it "mid-size." It's a compact. It's in its own class with the Hyundai Santa Cruz. But I guess since it's an overall sales leader with small trucks, it counts as one whole category.
 

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I wish fwd was available as an option in the hybrid. I don't need/want all wheel drive.
For those of you who want/need it, I'm happy it is available.
Oh, you're saying you would be fine with rwd for the hybrid? I haven't noticed any drawbacks with the fwd. In fact, fwd is more preferable when it comes to traction over slick roads and members here have reported the fwd does a decent job getting through snow.
 

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If they had updated the extremely scratch prone interior I would upgrade to 4k hybrid but not doing that now. Will wait for on an EV Maverick in 203x.
Ford keeps talking about an affordable small BEV truck as part of this BEV skunk works thing. I'm hoping a bit earlier, like 2027 or 2028. And I'm hoping they don't just cancel the project. A truly small BEV truck (or a 2-door Bronco-Sport-like BEV) is #1 on my vehicular dream list.
 

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I realize you have to consider inflation and added features over the years but a $6K bump still seems a bit steep. That's an average increase of $2K per year.
I get the impression that they priced it low on purpose so dealers could mark them up and make some cash to stay afloat during COVID when unit sales were down significantly. Or they priced it low and let the Lariat folks subsidize the XL hybrids. Either way, feels like there's an additional reason past inflation.
 

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Well, it's nice to finally get confirmation for anyone that was begging for a Hybrid AWD option. What threw me by surprise was that it's the standard powertrain on the XL and XLT just like it was the first model year. But with addition of AWD, it will be a massive sales success. It'll still take some time to get used to the new front fascia which makes me want to visit my dealer to see it in person. Maybe my opinion will change as that's been the case with vehicles in the past.

I am disappointed to see the physical climate controls disappear and replaced with touch capacitive ones that not only do you have to take your eyes off the road for, they'll leave fingerprints every time you use them. Big deal breaker for me. Although it is nice to have wireless Apple Carplay and Android Auto compatibility. Not to mention the big screen with better graphics, nicer camera, and newer/more responsive software. The blue trim on the XLTs look a lot better than the orange. But now the orange transferred itself to the Lariat. That'll be interesting. Brown with orange? That'll clash. But the blue does look good with most colors and doesn't look as cheap, at least in my opinion.

The price bump comes as no surprise. Considering the new features they've added, it was to be expected. But I still can't help but cringe at the starting price. $27K and change for the cheapest one as oppose to the $21K starting price just three years ago is absurd. I realize you have to consider inflation and added features over the years but a $6K bump still seems a bit steep. That's an average increase of $2K per year.

Although I'm not the biggest fan of the front fascia, I am happy that not only are they finally offering Eruption Green, they brought back Velocity Blue which was only available for 2022 and then immediately replaced with Atlas Blue. My dad and I always enjoyed that color. I'm glad they resurrected an old color which is rare for manufacturers to do. It is sad to see my Hot Pepper Red discontinued along with Cactus Grey. That was my mom's favorite color. I'm guessing Space White Metallic is its replacement?

Overall, it's a very solid refresh with some shortcomings but it still won't stop it from being the best-selling midsizer in the segment, although I have a hard time calling it "mid-size." It's a compact. It's in its own class with the Hyundai Santa Cruz. But I guess since it's an overall sales leader with small trucks, it counts as one whole category.
Could not have voiced my opinion any better. Well said.
 

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Ranger is the same problem minus the uni-body. I would need an F150 to carry a 450 lb motorcycle.
The mileage difference between the Ranger and F-150 isn't huge. I just traded my F-150, but through its 6+ years in my possession, I regularly got 20+ MPG on the highway and that's with a 3.5 Ecoboost and a decent tune. Good truck if you need something big.

The weight of the bike is no problem for either the Maverick or the Ranger, but I can see size being an issue. Might be better off with a small trailer.
 
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Ford keeps talking about an affordable small BEV truck as part of this BEV skunk works thing. I'm hoping a bit earlier, like 2027 or 2028. And I'm hoping they don't just cancel the project. A truly small BEV truck (or a 2-door Bronco-Sport-like BEV) is #1 on my vehicular dream list.
"Affordable" at this stage of the economy is relative.
 

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This thread shows why no sane person wants to be an OEM product planner. You absolutely cannot make all people happy all the time.
 

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I got my xl for 26,515 , i not paying 31,000 for it. All so no Ecoboost offers. I got find a Toyota Tacoma for 32,000 or 35,000
Good thing I got my 24
 
 







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