Maverick Main Commit Scheduling This Week (9/21/23) for Production Weeks 11/06 - 11/27

[huunvubu]

Well Ford, you never cease to amaze me with changing constraints. I should have left my order for a hybrid. The full size spare has been a problem, the hitch has been a problem, and the XL has been a problem. Also, you are not giving priority to all rollover orders!!!! I am just stating the facts!

I just left my order EXACTLY as I wanted it.

I wanted a Hybrid so I never changed it to an EcoBoost
I wanted the Trailer Hitch so I never removed it from the order

Constraints come and go and the percents rise and fall. It is a crapshoot to try to guess what it would be at any given moment and to change your order to a vehicle that you really didn't want (and regret later) is really not smart especially when you see the exact model/configuration that you originally wanted being scheduled while your changed order sits.

It took about 10 months but the Maverick that I WANTED got scheduled, built and shipped and now is days away from being in my posession.

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[GRABBR]

True; why not order what you want, and be patient, knowing that whenever it is built, it's what you wanted and didn't have to make sacrifices.

 

[Bill Quattlebaum]

These posts seem to be mostly people who "just" ordered a 2024 2 months ago.
Already impatient and frustrated speculating on whether they will not get scheduled next week because of a trailer hitch or whatever is the constrained feature of the day.
If you take off everything that is constrained each week you will end up with nothing - and no guarantee of getting it quicker. Order what you want and wait or strip it down to nothing and still wait.
You people are in for such a world of hurt.
You really have to take it back in some. Your real wait hasn't even really begun.
Yes some 2024 orders have already been scheduled but that's an anomaly.
- Still waiting for a 2023 - and there are even some still waiting for a 2022.

I think you are wrong about this post. I believe most have been waiting a year or more. My order was placed on 9/20/22. Like you said many have been waiting for close to two years. I have seen numerous posts on here where people that just ordered in July have already been scheduled.

 

[Robert C]

I think you are wrong about this post. I believe most have been waiting a year or more. My order was placed on 9/20/22. Like you said many have been waiting for close to two years. I have seen numerous posts on here where people that just ordered in July have already been scheduled.

Yeah, I agree, it's crazy. And Ford stated 2023s would be prioritized for 2024.
If we didn't have forums like this we would probably buy that as it's what they said and it seems logical - not so much.
I was just looking at all the posts of people contemplating changing their order because of the almost daily announcement of some new constraint. I would have thought 2023 people were beyond that by now.

 

[Thundercougarfalconbird]

As said almost weekly somehwere on this forum, prioritized by Ford means prioritized over other orders at your dealer. You and other rollovers are your dealer have a priority code 02 (if your dealer rolled you over properly), while new orders should be 03+.

If your dealership has a lot of rollovers, you're in line with those folks ahead of all of the new orders. If another dealership has allocations and no rollovers, their new order is going to be built as that dealership has their open allocation to fill. Your dealer should not be getting a new order in before yours, though this may happen if it's say a hybrid week or Lariat build week at the factory and your dealer's rollovers are all XL/XLT ecoboosts. In which case their allocation may go to a new order that meets the criteria (and has the lowest priority number) that week instead of the dealer losing the allocation. They were given a breakdown before the banks this year, so they should know roughly what percentages of each they had availalbe, and them using that allocation shouldn't take away from the ones assigned to the rollovers.

While there is a lot more to it with the mess that was last year's order banks and allocation numbers provided to dealers too late for it, Ford is not going to skip over a dealer's earned allocation for a new order to reward it to a dealership that took too many orders last year.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...lanation-of-maverick-order-allocations.36302/

 

[Robert C]

As said almost weekly somehwere on this forum, prioritized by Ford means prioritized over other orders at your dealer. You and other rollovers are your dealer have a priority code 02 (if your dealer rolled you over properly), while new orders should be 03+.

If your dealership has a lot of rollovers, you're in line with those folks ahead of all of the new orders. If another dealership has allocations and no rollovers, their new order is going to be built as that dealership has their open allocation to fill. Your dealer should not be getting a new order in before yours, though this may happen if it's say a hybrid week or Lariat build week at the factory and your dealer's rollovers are all XL/XLT ecoboosts. In which case their allocation may go to a new order that meets the criteria (and has the lowest priority number) that week instead of the dealer losing the allocation. They were given a breakdown before the banks this year, so they should know roughly what percentages of each they had availalbe, and them using that allocation shouldn't take away from the ones assigned to the rollovers.

While there is a lot more to it with the mess that was last year's order banks and allocation numbers provided to dealers too late for it, Ford is not going to skip over a dealer's earned allocation for a new order to reward it to a dealership that took too many orders last year.

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...lanation-of-maverick-order-allocations.36302/

Yes, but that's the point exactly - "allocations".
So sick of that word.
It has no meaning when we are not told which dealers have them and which do not - even if it is a real thing.
What do we care how Ford rewards or punishes dealers, we just want our trucks and when we ordered a 2023 a year ago and now people are getting scheduled for their 2 month order of their 2024 it's frustrating.
If we could have made informed decisions about which dealer to order from OK then no sympathy for someone not doing their homework and ordering from the wrong dealer.
But this is a game that was rigged from the start where we were never told the rules or odds.
So they just say that magical word allocations and that absolves them of any blame in this Maverick debacle.

 

[Bill Quattlebaum]

Yeah, I agree, it's crazy. And Ford stated 2023s would be prioritized for 2024.
If we didn't have forums like this we would probably buy that as it's what they said and it seems logical - not so much.
I was just looking at all the posts of people contemplating changing their order because of the almost daily announcement of some new constraint. I would have thought 2023 people were beyond that by now.

Not really, because like me, I just want to get a truck. I am down to a base XL Ecoboost now with a full size spare. I am tired of all the games Ford seems to be playing. I'd rather hear nothing at all, than promises they can't keep.

 

[SBP]

After a year, My 23 rolled over to 24 has been scheduled for the last week of October. I really enjoy driving my 22 Lariat Hybrid and I'll like the 24 too. My 22 Lariat will be for sale as soon as I'm sure of a delivery date for my 24. It will have under 20k miles if anyone is interested and doesn't want to wait for one.

 

[Thundercougarfalconbird]

So they just say that magical word allocations and that absolves them of any blame in this Maverick debacle.

No one said it absolves them of blame. The dealership is Ford's customer who is then selling to you, and dealerships have lobbied hard to keep that structure in place (see the link I posted with the Tesla example). You walk away from your order, the dealership still has its allocation and sells the truck either way and they're happy - which is why even if they have the allocation numbers ahead, they don't need or want to tell you what they have and no incentive to be honest about it (which is why we have the dealer tracking map here). It's blame on all levels of the business model.

However, if you're talking about magical words, Ford corporate did say the word prioritize and they did exactly what they said they would. A properly processed rollover is now prioritized over new orders [at your dealer]. They never said they would build all of the rollovers first - everything beyond a low priority code was speculation.

 

[Mervin the Maverick]

These posts seem to be mostly people who "just" ordered a 2024 2 months ago.
Already impatient and frustrated speculating on whether they will not get scheduled next week because of a trailer hitch or whatever is the constrained feature of the day.
If you take off everything that is constrained each week you will end up with nothing - and no guarantee of getting it quicker. Order what you want and wait or strip it down to nothing and still wait.
You people are in for such a world of hurt.
You really have to take it back in some. Your real wait hasn't even really begun.
Yes some 2024 orders have already been scheduled but that's an anomaly.
- Still waiting for a 2023 - and there are even some still waiting for a 2022.

And, if you take off a “constrained item” this week, will it be constrained next week, or the week after?

 

[Robert C]

No one said it absolves them of blame. The dealership is Ford's customer who is then selling to you, and dealerships have lobbied hard to keep that structure in place (see the link I posted with the Tesla example). You walk away from your order, the dealership still has its allocation and sells the truck either way and they're happy - which is why even if they have the allocation numbers ahead, they don't need or want to tell you what they have and no incentive to be honest about it (which is why we have the dealer tracking map here). It's blame on all levels of the business model.

However, if you're talking about magical words, Ford corporate did say the word prioritize and they did exactly what they said they would. A properly processed rollover is now prioritized over new orders [at your dealer]. They never said they would build all of the rollovers first - everything beyond a low priority code was speculation.

Yeah I've heard that before about not being Ford's customer. The dealership is.

If I buy a John Deere lawn mower at home Depot, I'm a John Deere customer.

 

[Thundercougarfalconbird]

Yeah I've heard that before about not being Ford's customer. The dealership is.

If I buy a John Deere lawn mower at home Depot, I'm a John Deere customer.

And you're still a Ford customer (they're on the hook for lemons and warranties after all), but your individual purchase means much less to them than the direct sale to the dealership. Car manufacturers build their cars to the stock order speculation numbers that dealerships provide (now with more retail/custom on certain models) and those orders are paid for by the dealer as it rolls off the line. The manufacturers don't want stored vehicles on their properties because that's an additional cost and a delayed payment. Ford doesn't care if you walk away from your custom order because the dealer has already paid for it - it's the dealer's problem now to get it off the lot before it costs them too much interest and ultimately a loss.

Now does Ford want you to be an individual, loyal brand customer? Sure - in your lifetime you could be, on average, a source of a half dozen sales. But they can take the hit if a number of customers walk away or are not loyal to the brand due to a bad experience, be it a long wait because of their messed up ordering/allocation system today, maybe a bad experience with a Pinto decades ago, etc. The dealership is always speculating some one else buying that vehicle, stock or custom order if you walk away from it, which is why they took the order and have made sales to earn allocations for future orders. But if no one buys that order, that just hurts the initial customer - the dealership - not the manufacturer who has already been paid; and right now, dealerships are not hurting. So Ford is going to try to keep them happy first are foremost through the allocation system, since that is the most fair system to the dealers [apparently], to keep those initial off-the-line sales coming in. I'm not exactly sure where fleet sales fall in, but I'm sure they're given some emphasis as well.

Now maybe in a year or two inventory starts sitting on the dealer lots too long and they get unhappy, then perhaps a manufacturer adjustment to allocations is made and/or Ford addresses the reason people aren't buying that specific vehicle (will be interested to see what happens with the Ranger). But it's going to take a lot of individuals collectively walking away to start to make that difference, and right now there's always some one else to fill that void left by the disgruntled.

tl;dr The dealership is where the manufacturers make their money, and individuals walking away from retail orders is a small and manageable loss to the overall brand (that really isn't a loss because they'll easily find some one else to sell it to in the current economy, at no loss)

 

[zstansel]

Yes, but that's the point exactly - "allocations".
So sick of that word.
It has no meaning when we are not told which dealers have them and which do not - even if it is a real thing.
What do we care how Ford rewards or punishes dealers, we just want our trucks and when we ordered a 2023 a year ago and now people are getting scheduled for their 2 month order of their 2024 it's frustrating.
If we could have made informed decisions about which dealer to order from OK then no sympathy for someone not doing their homework and ordering from the wrong dealer.
But this is a game that was rigged from the start where we were never told the rules or odds.
So they just say that magical word allocations and that absolves them of any blame in this Maverick debacle.

It's not a fun game and It's not right that it's gotten this complicated. It's our current reality, and what you have to deal with to order a new car. It's across the board. Go to the mustang forums, the bronco forums, the raptor forums, the tacoma forums, the civic forums. It's all the same story and game.

You CAN make informed decisions about which dealer to order from though....

For 2024s people could/should have done the following:
-ask how many allocations they got last year
-ask how many unfilled 2023 orders they plan to rollover
-could even get specific to hybrid v. eco breakdown

Not all dealers/salespeople may be willing to do that for you. However, there are threads in here from members recommending and posting good contacts at specific dealers.
There are threads in here laying out the entire ordering process from start to finish for those unfamiliar with it.

If it really eats you up...be done with it. It's pretty simple. Life's too short to allow yourself to be frustrated daily by something you willingly enter into. By all markers we've seen here as far as production numbers vs orders placed, come April-May you will probably be able to find nearly what you wanted to order, on a dealer lot, for MSRP or very near to it.

 

[MakinDoForNow]

Well Ford, you never cease to amaze me with changing constraints. I should have left my order for a hybrid. The full size spare has been a problem, the hitch has been a problem, and the XL has been a problem. Also, you are not giving priority to all rollover orders!!!! I am just stating the facts!

Well Bill it never ceases to amaze me how many are trying to out guess how some young whippersnapper two thumbs up game playing programmer has set up the selection process. Consider the possibility that when an order is placed it is assigned the 11,000th available hitch and the 9,002nd available full size spare. Cancellation of the hitch may or may not affect the order waiting on the full size spare which may or may not come in because of a rail car being wrecked. I ordered an XLT LUX in Aug 21 and a backup XLT with only a hitch and inverter in Oct 21. The Aug 21 LUX arrived in Oct 22 and the Oct 21 XLT arrived in Feb 23 taking about six weeks longer to build than the Aug 21 order. If the orders are placed In a fixed short time period for a production period of one year some will not be built for 11 months aggravated by non arrival of scheduled parts. As far as rollover priority I would expect them to be subject to allocation slots available but who knows for sure?

 

[NedF]

Hey Ford… this is the week of my 60th birthday- hint, hint!!

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