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What if the mileage they submitted to EPA is more like 45 or 50 city? And it's taking so long because the numbers were so much higher than they thought?
Possible. I called Ford twice this week and they told me 50mpg both times 2 different people.
 
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It’s either this or the opposite and ford is scrambling

I think it’s more likely that it’s higher and so the EPA is doing more tests then normal
The EPA doing more tests than normal means literally anything above ZERO! A lot of people think that the EPA numbers come from the EPA, they don't, they come from the manufacturer.

The EPA may run an audit on a manufacturer when there are sufficient complaints from the public or whistleblowers or some other red flag, but all tests are run by the manufacturer themselves and merely submitted to the EPA to publish.

That's how Hyundais for so many years were able to knowingly BS their EPA numbers because it was Hyundai that submitted them and the EPA just says "cool thanks" and didn't investigate until years later where they audited the testing and found it was manipulated, found them guilty, and issued a punishment. Only twice since 2000 has EPA actually audited, and both times it was Hyundai/Kia, so generally speaking its better to rely on crowdsourcing for accurate fuel economy from sites like fuelly.org.

I wish it was actually the EPA running the tests themselves continually using random sampling from the manufacturer, but no such luck.
 

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All I know is anything better than 40 mpg is better than what I get with my 2.0 L Turbo at 25 mpg. And I will be able to carry everything in the back and still have room for my Grand Kid's. I think I will test out some vinyl wraps to make it look more like a "Murder Hornet"
Ford Maverick 43.6 MPG Hybrid Maverick fuel mileage snapshot by Alex on Autos 1800x1200_bad_bugs_alt_2_slideshow
 

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The EPA doing more tests than normal means literally anything above ZERO! A lot of people think that the EPA numbers come from the EPA, they don't, they come from the manufacturer.

The EPA may run an audit on a manufacturer when there are sufficient complaints from the public or whistleblowers or some other red flag, but all tests are run by the manufacturer themselves and merely submitted to the EPA to publish.

That's how Hyundais for so many years were able to knowingly BS their EPA numbers because it was Hyundai that submitted them and the EPA just says "cool thanks" and didn't investigate until years later where they audited the testing and found it was manipulated, found them guilty, and issued a punishment. Only twice since 2000 has EPA actually audited, and both times it was Hyundai/Kia, so generally speaking its better to rely on crowdsourcing for accurate fuel economy from sites like fuelly.org.

I wish it was actually the EPA running the tests themselves continually using random sampling from the manufacturer, but no such luck.
The EPA does pull a percentage of vehicles every year that they do test on their own. With this being the first ever hybrid truck it would make sense they decided to test this one on their own.
 

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The EPA doing more tests than normal means literally anything above ZERO! A lot of people think that the EPA numbers come from the EPA, they don't, they come from the manufacturer.

The EPA may run an audit on a manufacturer when there are sufficient complaints from the public or whistleblowers or some other red flag, but all tests are run by the manufacturer themselves and merely submitted to the EPA to publish.

That's how Hyundais for so many years were able to knowingly BS their EPA numbers because it was Hyundai that submitted them and the EPA just says "cool thanks" and didn't investigate until years later where they audited the testing and found it was manipulated, found them guilty, and issued a punishment. Only twice since 2000 has EPA actually audited, and both times it was Hyundai/Kia, so generally speaking its better to rely on crowdsourcing for accurate fuel economy from sites like fuelly.org.

I wish it was actually the EPA running the tests themselves continually using random sampling from the manufacturer, but no such luck.
I have mentioned this before. No one believes it.
 
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It is a specific test, but there are also specific criteria to how the test is administered to give consistency across the board.... At least that's my understanding
 

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30 mi in 45 minutes of driving? Yeah great mileage...
The average speed was 40 MPH. In City Driving (or stop and go) those are very respectable numbers.

I should easily obtain 40+ MPG with my Maverick Hybrid as 95% of my driving is in the city.
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