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I think we just need to find a rat of sorts in the Ford Motor Company 
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Possible. I called Ford twice this week and they told me 50mpg both times 2 different people.What if the mileage they submitted to EPA is more like 45 or 50 city? And it's taking so long because the numbers were so much higher than they thought?
Based off of levins....but even he was only getting 30Possible. I called Ford twice this week and they told me 50mpg.
The EPA doing more tests than normal means literally anything above ZERO! A lot of people think that the EPA numbers come from the EPA, they don't, they come from the manufacturer.It’s either this or the opposite and ford is scrambling
I think it’s more likely that it’s higher and so the EPA is doing more tests then normal
They don't submit anything they drop the trucks off and the EPA tests them.What if the mileage they submitted to EPA is more like 45 or 50 city? And it's taking so long because the numbers were so much higher than they thought?
I believe I am quoting here:Where's @kingranchero with the cryptic message about the EPA mpg release date?
The EPA does pull a percentage of vehicles every year that they do test on their own. With this being the first ever hybrid truck it would make sense they decided to test this one on their own.The EPA doing more tests than normal means literally anything above ZERO! A lot of people think that the EPA numbers come from the EPA, they don't, they come from the manufacturer.
The EPA may run an audit on a manufacturer when there are sufficient complaints from the public or whistleblowers or some other red flag, but all tests are run by the manufacturer themselves and merely submitted to the EPA to publish.
That's how Hyundais for so many years were able to knowingly BS their EPA numbers because it was Hyundai that submitted them and the EPA just says "cool thanks" and didn't investigate until years later where they audited the testing and found it was manipulated, found them guilty, and issued a punishment. Only twice since 2000 has EPA actually audited, and both times it was Hyundai/Kia, so generally speaking its better to rely on crowdsourcing for accurate fuel economy from sites like fuelly.org.
I wish it was actually the EPA running the tests themselves continually using random sampling from the manufacturer, but no such luck.
I have mentioned this before. No one believes it.The EPA doing more tests than normal means literally anything above ZERO! A lot of people think that the EPA numbers come from the EPA, they don't, they come from the manufacturer.
The EPA may run an audit on a manufacturer when there are sufficient complaints from the public or whistleblowers or some other red flag, but all tests are run by the manufacturer themselves and merely submitted to the EPA to publish.
That's how Hyundais for so many years were able to knowingly BS their EPA numbers because it was Hyundai that submitted them and the EPA just says "cool thanks" and didn't investigate until years later where they audited the testing and found it was manipulated, found them guilty, and issued a punishment. Only twice since 2000 has EPA actually audited, and both times it was Hyundai/Kia, so generally speaking its better to rely on crowdsourcing for accurate fuel economy from sites like fuelly.org.
I wish it was actually the EPA running the tests themselves continually using random sampling from the manufacturer, but no such luck.
Jim could catch one.Marlin Perkins should feature "the elusive Maverick Hybrid" on Mutual of Omaha. It's rarely been seen out of captivity.
30 mi in 45 minutes of driving? Yeah great mileage...Great numbers
Hybrids have started shipping so I think we will see an epa number early next week.
The average speed was 40 MPH. In City Driving (or stop and go) those are very respectable numbers.30 mi in 45 minutes of driving? Yeah great mileage...