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I'm sure you did what was best for you. Not sure I would have made that call, but we all have our limits.
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So the dealer will likely buy it back park it in the corner of the lot for a few weeks until the parts come in, then sell it at $5K over MSRP, right? Seems like a win for the dealer.
Wonder if a carfax would flag this as being a lemon. If so thi k the dealer would dump it.
 

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Wonder if a carfax would flag this as being a lemon. If so thi k the dealer would dump it.
Generally yes, Carfax and other vehicle history reports will show a manufacturer buyback, and if the title has been branded under state law as a lemon.

In this market, there are a lot of unknowns. The dealer might still have an easy time reselling a lemon, especially given the required documentation showing what the issue was and how it was addressed. In this instance, there's no immediately apparent reason why anyone would shy away from the vehicle if the defective components have been replaced. It's just taking too long to get them for OP's liking.
 

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I drive a vehicle I bought in 2020 that was also a lemon from California. It's an EV, so it apparently had issues with the charge control or something, but nonetheless, it was bought back, fixed, and sold to me for dirt cheap with 63K miles and a 12k mile/12 month bumper to bumper warranty. I still drive it daily and has been problem free and now has 117k miles on it.

The sad part it, even though it's a great vehicle and has been "flawless", the title is branded Lemon and it hurts the resale value. A mint condition vehicle, and most dealers won't take it (or lowball) if I wanted to trade it in, even though I have put over 50k miles on it without issues. Basically they treat it as salvage and Yes, it shows on a Carfax.

For this Maverick, maybe the parts are out of stock, or maybe the technology is so complicated the dealer didn't fix it right the first or second time. Now this Maverick will have a branded title, and probably be sold close to the MSRP when it was new, and the new owner upside down on a used vehicle. My bet is that once Ford repairs it, it will likely be problem free.
 
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Did the dealer provide a loaner? If so I'd rack up the miles on the loaner while waiting.
Yes, I’ve had a rental. I’m driving as much as I did before but the MPG are worse so it’s costing me more in gas than my Mav!
 

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Dang, I thought multiple different problems with unsuccessfully attempts to fix were required to use lemon law. This seems way too easy. One problem with only one attempted and failed fix.
Lemon laws will vary by state, but typically; If it has been in for the same repair 3 times or has spent an excessive period of time being repaired (varies a lot by state) it is eligible for a lemon law claim. If you are looking at possibly taking this route, please consult a local attorney.
 
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Take any Accessory not nailed down and resell on here or other sites.
I will get what I easily can get. I’m not going remove stuff that was 3m taped. I haven’t seen you in here lately. How’s your Mav?
 
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Generally yes, Carfax and other vehicle history reports will show a manufacturer buyback, and if the title has been branded under state law as a lemon.

In this market, there are a lot of unknowns. The dealer might still have an easy time reselling a lemon, especially given the required documentation showing what the issue was and how it was addressed. In this instance, there's no immediately apparent reason why anyone would shy away from the vehicle if the defective components have been replaced. It's just taking too long to get them for OP's liking.
I want it fixed. I filed the claim because if this happens out of warranty then I’m on the hook for the repair.
 
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I drive a vehicle I bought in 2020 that was also a lemon from California. It's an EV, so it apparently had issues with the charge control or something, but nonetheless, it was bought back, fixed, and sold to me for dirt cheap with 63K miles and a 12k mile/12 month bumper to bumper warranty. I still drive it daily and has been problem free and now has 117k miles on it.

The sad part it, even though it's a great vehicle and has been "flawless", the title is branded Lemon and it hurts the resale value. A mint condition vehicle, and most dealers won't take it (or lowball) if I wanted to trade it in, even though I have put over 50k miles on it without issues. Basically they treat it as salvage and Yes, it shows on a Carfax.

For this Maverick, maybe the parts are out of stock, or maybe the technology is so complicated the dealer didn't fix it right the first or second time. Now this Maverick will have a branded title, and probably be sold close to the MSRP when it was new, and the new owner upside down on a used vehicle. My bet is that once Ford repairs it, it will likely be problem free.
I’ll go this route if possible. I want my truck. I also want the most comprehensive ESP for free.
 
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I’ll go this route if possible. I want my truck. I also want the most comprehensive ESP for free.
You basically turn it in on a buyback. I was not the original owner of mine, I just got lucky if you will and got a great deal. I was the second owner. Once Ford buys it back, you don't own it at that point, they fix and sell to somone else. I personally have never have had a vehicle bought back, so I could be wrong.
 
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You basically turn it in on a buyback. I was not the original owner of mine, I just got lucky if you will and got a great deal. I was the second owner. Once Ford buys it back, you don't own it at that point, they fix and sell to somone else. I personally have never have had a vehicle bought back, so I could be wrong.
I see. I read that wrong!
 

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I want it fixed. I filed the claim because if this happens out of warranty then I’m on the hook for the repair.
Right, just saying it's taking too long to get the parts (you're not wrong there), but doesn't mean the vehicle won't be as reliable as any afterwards. As in, it's not a lemon that seems to have one issue after another, at least not yet.
 

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Dang, I thought multiple different problems with unsuccessfully attempts to fix were required to use lemon law. This seems way too easy. One problem with only one attempted and failed fix.
You are correct(partially), typical lemon laws have an " either/or" : either a set number of attempts at fixing the same concern without resolve, or the vehicle is in the shop for one repair and that repair attempt exceeds a set amount of consecutive days without resolve.
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