I regret getting spray in bedliner

[YOBY]

Not sure any of those options were possible since the Maverick doesn’t have a separate bed. The cab and bed are all one body in white unit unlike Taco or F150.

I thought of that before my post and looked under my truck to if it was possible. A different manufacturing process is required and some out of the box thinking but it can be done.

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[badwolf]

I'm looking to get the horse stall mat and cut to fit over the spray in liner. Tractor Supply has a great deal. I wish they had the 1/2" in 4'x6' though. They only have the 3/4' in that size. Then, no matter what I haul it will cushion, including my knees

I was sooo think the same thing.

 

[Barracuda340]

I'm glad you caught that 4 foot mistake. I should have said 4 foot 6.4 inches. Now, after 10 years, I could find no faults with a composite bed. If I wanted mulch, stone or soil, the vender would dump it in the bed and I would shovel in out without worrying about shoveling tar, scratching the paint or rust. Never any tar or black marks on anything I carried in the bed.

My point was Ford could have delivered the trucks earlier with a little forward thinking. They started making the F150 with an all aluminum bed. Maverick has a aluminum hood, why not a aluminum bed. Just questions.

If your happy with your steel bed and your brain, I'm happy for you.

Aluminum cannot be welded to steel. It can however be glued with high strength epoxies. This is fine for adding aluminum door skins to steel inner structure, or for hoods, roof panels and tailgates, however not for the large portion of structural areas.

Your toyota is body on frame construction like the F150. The F150 entire bed is aluminum and unbolts from the frame. Your toyota bed does as well.

The maverick being unibody construction the bed floor is welded to light gage sheetmetal framerails. This being said the bed floor and sides with frame are essentially a welded integral part of the unibody construction and cannot be unbolted and removed. At this point you can make the entire vehicle out of steel or out of aluminum.

Steel is a lot stronger for a complete unibody application than aluminum The F150 aluminum bed also punctures and dents very easy. A lot more so than a steel bed. Dont go all into how aircraft are aluminum and therefore pretty strong. I work in Aviation maintenance as a heavy structures mechanic, and do automotive structure repair as a hobby. Aluminum sheetmetal is fine for aircraft, and for bonded skin structures on cars where strength isnt an issue, other than that aluminum sheetmetal is a horrible building material for automobiles

Your dog dont hunt. Try again

 

[YOBY]

Aluminum cannot be welded to steel. It can however be glued with high strength epoxies. This is fine for adding aluminum door skins to steel inner structure, or for hoods, roof panels and tailgated, however not for the large portion of structural areas.

Your toyota is body on frame construction like the F150. The F150 entire bed is aluminum and unbolts from the frame. Your toyota bed does as well.

The maverick being unibody construction the bed floor is welded to light gage sheetmetal framerails. This being said the bed floor and sides with frame are essentially a welded integral part of the unibody construction and cannot be unbolted and removed. At this point you can make the entire vehicle out of steel or out of aluminum.

Steel is a lot stronger for a complete unibody application than aluminum The F150 aluminum bed also punctures and dents very easy. A lot more so than a steel bed. Dont go all into how aircraft are aluminum and therefore pretty strong. I work in Aviation maintenance as a heavy structures mechanic, and do automotive structure repair as a hobby. Aluminum sheetmetal is fine for aircraft, and for bonded skin structures on cars where strength isnt an issue, other than that aluminum sheetmetal is a horrible building material for automobiles

Your dog dont hunt. Try again

So your saying the Unibody Honda Ridgeline with a composite bed doesn't exist.

Oh, I almost forgot that other dog that don't hunt so well with a composite bed and unibody, the Santa Cruz.

Thanks for the education in materials, Material Engineers can always use a refresher.

 

[Barracuda340]

So your saying the Unibody Honda Ridgeline with a composite bed doesn't exist.

Oh, I almost forgot that other dog that don't hunt so well with a composite bed and unibody, the Santa Cruz.

Thanks for the education in materials, Material Engineers can always use a refresher.

Ok smart guy,

The "plastic liner" your referring to as composite on the SANTA cruz is a fiber plastic floor liner with screwed to a steel sheetmetal floor structure underneath. That steel floor structure is welded to the framerails. If you remove all that plastic in the SANTA Cruz bed, there is a welded steel floor under there. Ditto for the Ridgeline. Theres a steel floor under there too. The unibody framerails have to attach to something substantial, and that would be the steel sheet flooring to which the plastic or composite if you want to call it that attaches to.

No manufacturer in their right mind would use that plastic tub as a major structural member and attach it to the framerails via bolting or bonding. Your toyota floor may be different, however i say this again, your toyota has a full frame underneath. The truck bed on that is NOT an integral frame member that's required for frame strength. You could drive the truck without it attached. I suggest you crawl under a ridgeline or santa cruz bed area with a magnet, and see if it sticks to the underside of the main bed floor. It will.

Check mate. Try again. That dog dont hunt.

 

[Chris_G]

Ok smart guy,

The "plastic liner" your referring to as composite on the SANTA cruz is a plastic floor liner with screwed to a steel sheetmetal floor structure underneath. That steel floor structure is welded to the framerails. If you remove all that plastic in the SANTA Cruz bed, there is a welded steel floor under there. Ditto for the ridgeline. Theres a steel floor under there too. The unibody framerails have to attach to something substantial, and that would be the steel sheet flooring to which the plastic or composite if you want to call it that attaches to. No manufacturer in their right mind would use that plastic tub as a major structural member and attach it to the framerails via bolting or bonding.

Check mate. Try again. That dog dont hunt.

What kind of dog?

 

[Samus L. Jackson]

What kind of dog?

Unibody steel poodle.

 

[Chris_G]

Unibody steel poodle.

Evidently, it's not a good dog for hunting.

 

[Barracuda340]

Evidently, it's not a good dog for hunting.

No it's not, they sink not swim

 

[YOBY]

Ok smart guy,

The "plastic liner" your referring to as composite on the SANTA cruz is a fiber plastic floor liner with screwed to a steel sheetmetal floor structure underneath. That steel floor structure is welded to the framerails. If you remove all that plastic in the SANTA Cruz bed, there is a welded steel floor under there. Ditto for the Ridgeline. Theres a steel floor under there too. The unibody framerails have to attach to something substantial, and that would be the steel sheet flooring to which the plastic or composite if you want to call it that attaches to.

No manufacturer in their right mind would use that plastic tub as a major structural member and attach it to the framerails via bolting or bonding. Your toyota floor may be different, however i say this again, your toyota has a full frame underneath. The truck bed on that is NOT an integral frame member that's required for frame strength. You could drive the truck without it attached. I suggest you crawl under a ridgeline or santa cruz bed area with a magnet, and see if it sticks to the underside of the main bed floor. It will.

Check mate. Try again. That dog dont hunt.

I'm not going to banter with you all day, but if Ford had taken a blank sheet of paper, the engineers could have designed a unibody around a composite bed. If you believe that can not be accomplished you are very narrow minded wise guy. AS for all your excuses, the unibody trucks exist (when properly designed)with beds other than metal for placing cargo on. Sorry you got butt hurt. End of Story.

 

[Barracuda340]

I'm not going to banter with you all day, but if Ford had taken a blank sheet of paper, the engineers could have designed a unibody around a composite bed. If you believe that can not be accomplished you are very narrow minded wise guy. AS for all your excuses, the unibody trucks exist (when properly designed)with beds other than metal for placing cargo on. Sorry you got butt hurt. End of Story.

Not butt hurt at all. I know what I know. Go do your own research on the 2 unibody trucks I mentioned. Crawl underneath with a magnet. Those are steel floors with plastic screwed down. I gave you sound information behind why it's not done that way. Something about leading a horse to water or something like that.

 

[YOBY]

Not butt hurt at all. I know what I know. Go do your own research on the 2 unibody trucks I mentioned. Crawl underneath with a magnet. Those are steel floors with plastic screwed down. I gave you sound information behind why it's not done that way. Something about leading a horse to water or something like that.

Checkmate

 

[bdaniel230]

That could work. As for myself, I am quite happy with the steel bed... SIBL and a Bed Mat. ( and I have a Brain) ,
I 'm sure the Toyota composite has some advantages but must have disadvantages as well. And the Maverick bed is 4.5 feet long.

I really like the SIBL with the bed rug. I have a portable welder and plasma torch I carry and they stay-put really well without having to tie them to the bed. Usually, in my Dodge Ram, they were sliding all over the bed if they weren't tied to the bed with cargo straps that pull the carrying handles of the tools into interesting shapes. The bed rug also keeps the things I work with at my day job from getting scratched and damaged. The combination is outstanding in my opinion.

 

[Rusty Nutts]

It's like you forgot we are dealing with a low-cost vehicle. I am not sure what kind of composites you are referring to, but the ones I deal with cost a hell of a lot more than a sheet of steel. And not sure I would trust something that will take abuse like a truck bed and will be destroyed by UV rays over time.

On another note, coming from someone else that has been repairing aircraft structure for over 30 years, never throw out the engineer comment like it's an achievement.

 

[Barracuda340]

It's like you forgot we are dealing with a low-cost vehicle. I am not sure what kind of composites you are referring to, but the ones I deal with cost a hell of a lot more than a sheet of steel. And not sure I would trust something that will take abuse like a truck bed and will be destroyed by UV rays over time.

On another note, coming from someone else that has been repairing aircraft structure for over 30 years, never throw out the engineer comment like it's an achievement.

Yep, I agree. Some of the stuff the engineers make us do is kinda crazy. But they got the degree, so we do the repairs like they want it done. It's their signature on the document I am following. 28 years on aircraft structure for me. Heavy check line, commercial airliners. As we say here when something comes back from engineering and its AFU, "they dont pay me enough to drive the train" I'm not an engineer.

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