Well, this was a welcome email today, wonder if they found a lost bag of microchips somewhere? Went from 2/14/22 to 5/15/22 last week to this...
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I ordered the XLT on 6/17/21, supposedly it was in production on 10/28/21, was built on 12/22/21 & shipped on 12/24/21. The delivery date has changed several times & it was supposed to be here yesterday. I've heard nothing from Astoria Ford, but if I'm told it won't be here until May I'm going to tell them to kiss off. I haven't signed a contract & refuse to play their delay game.
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I heard that Russia has been dismantling Soyuz spacecraft left over from the '60s and selling the salvaged control modules to Ford in order to help fund their offensive maneuvers in Ukraine. If you're lucky your Maverick might also be capable of completing advanced telematics calculations in addition to heating your seats and steering wheel........Well, this was a welcome email today, wonder if they found a lost bag of microchips somewhere? Went from 2/14/22 to 5/15/22 last week to this...
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I ordered the XLT on 6/17/21, supposedly it was in production on 10/28/21, was built on 12/22/21 & shipped on 12/24/21. The delivery date has changed several times & it was supposed to be here yesterday. I've heard nothing from Astoria Ford, but if I'm told it won't be here until May I'm going to tell them to kiss off. I haven't signed a contract & refuse to play their delay game.
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All due to chip shortages according to Tim Barth last Tuesday's weekly chat online
Why keep copying/pasting the same message repeatedly? The dealership has no financial incentive to delay your purchase.
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Well there is always the possibility that they sold it to someone else and that sure has incentives for them to do so. More then likely though it's simply the availablity of a transportation service picking it up and making deliveries. Ford has disqualified some of these services because of various reasons including damaging vehicles. I beleive Tim mentioned that at his facility....
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Business plan. Announce a new product, but not a full-out campaign. Let the word spread for a few months get some reviews out on how people like them. Create a demand for them. Have people order them and then claim a 'Chip' shortage, then a Trucker Shortage. Make the demand higher. Let dealers put a markup on it. Orders are canceled by people too tired of the wait. The truck comes in and Dealer splits markup with ford 70/30 to play the game. (30 to ford). People think they are getting a deal on a limited supply truck and stole it from some sucker still waiting for their 'baby'. Nah, Not really...
Actually, TTL, semiconductors, and control modules had not even been invented back then. Neither Gemini or Sputnik used them- all discrete components. Even Apollo moon missions used vacuum tubes and discrete components- quite a miraculous accomplishment in context
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The first patents for semiconductors were applied for in 1959.Actually, TTL, semiconductors, and control modules had not even been invented back then. Neither Gemini or Sputnik used them- all discrete components. Even Apollo moon missions used vacuum tubes and discrete components- quite a miraculous accomplishment in context
The Apollo Guidance Computer was based on integrated circuits:
** warning** this will be a long and mostly boring reply post with almost nothing to do with Maverick "chip shortages". Apologies in advance for anyone not interested in the thread hijack...
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In 1961 the first commercially available integrated circuits came from the Fairchild Semiconductor Corporation. All computers then started to be made using chips instead of the individual transistors and their accompanying parts. Texas Instruments first used the chips in Air Force computers and the Minuteman Missile in 1962. They later used the chips to produce the first electronic portable calculators. The original IC had only one transistor, three resistors, and one capacitor and was the size of an adult's pinkie finger. Today an IC smaller than a penny can hold 125 million transistors.
Jack Kilby holds patents on over sixty inventions and is also well known as the inventor of the portable calculator (1967). In 1970 he was awarded the National Medal of Science. Robert Noyce, with sixteen patents to his name, founded Intel, the company responsible for the invention of the microprocessor, in 1968.
"There wasn't a lot they were asked to do. They were asked to crunch numbers and replace humans who would do them on mechanical adding machines," said Seamus Tuohy, the principal director of space systems at Draper, which spun off from the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory that developed the Apollo Guidance Computer.
That all changed with Apollo Guidance Computer, a briefcase-sized machine that needed to juggle an array of vital tasks, from navigating the ship to running its oxygen generator, heaters and carbon dioxide scrubbers.
Instead of a computer operator giving a machine a set of calculations and leaving it for hours or even days to work out the answer—all of this needed to be done in a time-sensitive fashion, with cut-offs, and the ability for users (astronauts) to give it commands in real time.
It also needed new ways for man to interact with machine that went beyond the punch-card programming of the time.
The engineers came up with three key ways: the switches that you still find in modern cockpits, a hand-controller that was connected to the world's first digital fly-by-wire system, and a "display and keyboard" unit, abbreviated DSKY (pronounced "dis-key").
The astronauts would input two-digit codes for verbs and nouns, to carry out commands like firing thrusters, or locking on to a particular star if the ship, which relied on an inertial guidance system to keep its pitch, roll and yaw stable, had begun to drift off course.
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While technically correct in a cursory explanation, there is a lack of context in your citations. Also, the terms computer, IC, chips, etc. used back then bare little resemblance to modern understandings and use of the terms and functionality.
From my own personal experiences, I 1st learned "programming" in high school in 1975. We used punch cards and paperclips to manually punch out little chads in each card (sometimes 1000+ cards) that were then stacked in a sorting/complier machine to perform 1 "routine". As highlighted above, this was mainly intended to speed calculations for number crunching.
I later earned an AS degree in Computer Technology in 1982-84. Our laboratory projects were mostly done on surplus military equipment from General Dynamics and we entered our "code" manually using toggle switches in combinations of 3 "bits" (Octal system). 2k of memory was housed in a rack the size of a refrigerator with multiple racked circuit board with crude integrated circuit packs along with discrete components.
There was no such thing as DOS or Windows back then- not invented yet. OS of choice was called CPM. The microprocessor and mini computer (grand daddy to home desktop PC) were starting to become widespread in military and business applications. We transitioned to these work stations later in my classes and actually built our own circuit boards using perforated main boards and wire wrap guns to attach components and sockets for ICs. We had no CRTs at our stations and had to design interfaces for our boards to "talk" to daisychain mechanical printers based on machine language coding we wrote. Fortran, Pascal and then BASIC were languages we learned and used. 8 bit busses were prevalent in our designs and builds and the Intel 8080 series processors were most common. Crude home computers started showing up including Commodore 64 and Texas Instruments TRS-80. I bought the TI because of its advanced 16 bit buss to do my BASIC programming homework.
By my last semester the IBM desktop became commercially available and Gates and Allen had started Microsoft with DOS as their main product and got an exclusive deal with IBM. Later came Windows. Also Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs started Apple round same time, offering alternative to IBM/DOS/Windows machines. THAT was when what we know as computers really started and have morphed into what we have today and used in every aspect of daily life- including the phone in your pocket.
Sorry for the lengthy trip down memory lane here - blame Dryheat for starting it!
In 1959 both parties applied for patents. Jack Kilby and Texas Instruments received U.S. patent #3,138,743 for miniaturized electronic circuits. Robert Noyce and the Fairchild Semiconductor Corporation received U.S. patent #2,981,877 for a silicon-based integrated circuit. The two companies wisely decided to cross-license their technologies after several years of legal battles, creating a global market now worth about $1 trillion a year.
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In 1961 the first commercially available integrated circuits came from the Fairchild Semiconductor Corporation. All computers then started to be made using chips instead of the individual transistors and their accompanying parts. Texas Instruments first used the chips in Air Force computers and the Minuteman Missile in 1962. They later used the chips to produce the first electronic portable calculators. The original IC had only one transistor, three resistors, and one capacitor and was the size of an adult's pinkie finger. Today an IC smaller than a penny can hold 125 million transistors.
Jack Kilby holds patents on over sixty inventions and is also well known as the inventor of the portable calculator (1967). In 1970 he was awarded the National Medal of Science. Robert Noyce, with sixteen patents to his name, founded Intel, the company responsible for the invention of the microprocessor, in 1968.
But in the early era of computers, we thought of them in a fundamentally different way.
"There wasn't a lot they were asked to do. They were asked to crunch numbers and replace humans who would do them on mechanical adding machines," said Seamus Tuohy, the principal director of space systems at Draper, which spun off from the MIT Instrumentation Laboratory that developed the Apollo Guidance Computer.
That all changed with Apollo Guidance Computer, a briefcase-sized machine that needed to juggle an array of vital tasks, from navigating the ship to running its oxygen generator, heaters and carbon dioxide scrubbers.
Instead of a computer operator giving a machine a set of calculations and leaving it for hours or even days to work out the answer—all of this needed to be done in a time-sensitive fashion, with cut-offs, and the ability for users (astronauts) to give it commands in real time.
It also needed new ways for man to interact with machine that went beyond the punch-card programming of the time.
The engineers came up with three key ways: the switches that you still find in modern cockpits, a hand-controller that was connected to the world's first digital fly-by-wire system, and a "display and keyboard" unit, abbreviated DSKY (pronounced "dis-key").
The astronauts would input two-digit codes for verbs and nouns, to carry out commands like firing thrusters, or locking on to a particular star if the ship, which relied on an inertial guidance system to keep its pitch, roll and yaw stable, had begun to drift off course.
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my reply:
While technically correct in a cursory explanation, there is a lack of context in your citations. Also, the terms computer, IC, chips, etc. used back then bare little resemblance to modern understandings and use of the terms and functionality.
From my own personal experiences, I 1st learned "programming" in high school in 1975. We used punch cards and paperclips to manually punch out little chads in each card (sometimes 1000+ cards) that were then stacked in a sorting/complier machine to perform 1 "routine". As highlighted above, this was mainly intended to speed calculations for number crunching.
I later earned an AS degree in Computer Technology in 1982-84. Our laboratory projects were mostly done on surplus military equipment from General Dynamics and we entered our "code" manually using toggle switches in combinations of 3 "bits" (Octal system). 2k of memory was housed in a rack the size of a refrigerator with multiple racked circuit board with crude integrated circuit packs along with discrete components.
There was no such thing as DOS or Windows back then- not invented yet. OS of choice was called CPM. The microprocessor and mini computer (grand daddy to home desktop PC) were starting to become widespread in military and business applications. We transitioned to these work stations later in my classes and actually built our own circuit boards using perforated main boards and wire wrap guns to attach components and sockets for ICs. We had no CRTs at our stations and had to design interfaces for our boards to "talk" to daisychain mechanical printers based on machine language coding we wrote. Fortran, Pascal and then BASIC were languages we learned and used. 8 bit busses were prevalent in our designs and builds and the Intel 8080 series processors were most common. Crude home computers started showing up including Commodore 64 and Texas Instruments TRS-80. I bought the TI because of its advanced 16 bit buss to do my BASIC programming homework.
By my last semester the IBM desktop became commercially available and Gates and Allen had started Microsoft with DOS as their main product and got an exclusive deal with IBM. Later came Windows. Also Steve Wozniak and Steve Jobs started Apple round same time, offering alternative to IBM/DOS/Windows machines. THAT was when what we know as computers really started and have morphed into what we have today and used in every aspect of daily life- including the phone in your pocket.
Sorry for the lengthy trip down memory lane here - blame Dryheat for starting it!
Yes, I think they rushed to move out dates 90 days to allow them time to better assess how to handle what was going to be a one month delay for most of us. Now we are happy with a 30 day delay.Whiplash here. Was given a three month delay, (to May 9). Now I get an email saying it is built and will be delivered by March 3rd.
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What context is lacking? I was responding to your statements that semiconductors hadn't been invented in the 1960s and that the Apollo moon missions used vacuum tubes. Semiconductors were invented in the 1950s and the guidance computer on the Apollo moon missions used them. That's really all there is to it.
I find your personal experience interesting, but like a lot of you younger folks, you got too late a start to personally remember this part of computer history.
BTW, I first worked as a computer operator in the 1960s on a scratch-built, room-sized computer at Rice University that actually did use vacuum tubes. It was a monster. Here's a picture that thankfully I am not in.
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