"Noob" on tires, looking for assistance

[dusty1787]

All,

Currently I have a 23 EB Lariat with FX4 and 4k. Mine came from the factory with the Pirelli Scorpion AT tire. I have not had any real issues with them so far, but past half way through the tires (and at 30k miles) and starting to look into replacements to keep an eye out for any sales/rebates/deals/etc. In the past I would just use Tirerack for the customer ratings/reviews and find the best bang for the buck tire and go from there.(the best bang for buck for tires that checked off the right boxes for me*)

But I am on the fence with the next set and looking for some guidance/$0.02 from all who read this.

Currently I am looking at the Wildpeak ATs as the next tire.(see lots of reviews/comments on here about them) but I notice it is a lot heavier of a tire (6lbs more each tire) and appears to be a slightly more aggressive AT tire. Which then I started thinking if I need a more aggressive AT tire for the driving I do and driving I plan to do in the future. Gravel roads/grass/farm land/campgrounds are currently the max of what I normally do. Could I take it to an offroad park or on some trails...sure... but most likely not expecting to.... but 90% of my time is paved roads.

That made me think about if I really need an AT tire, or an all season tire, or maybe just getting the same Scorpion tire again. but based on the reviews of the current Scorpion on tirerack, I would prefer one that is rated higher(better overall tire then), but again no real issues with them currently. Just a fair/good tire, no complaints.

Then when I started looking at the Scorpion design of the tire and comparison to most all season tires.... I do not see much of a difference. That made me wonder if the current Scorpion tire I have would even be any different than an all season tire for the driving that I currently do. I do plan on buying a small non pop-up camper (around 3k lbs) within the next year or so and would need to make sure the tires will handle that as well, but thats where I am hoping for your knowledge/experience will help me decide.

I am aware this is all my decision, but it wont hurt to ask around for pointers/personal experience with the tires I may pick out. The main things I am looking for are: PRICE (not looking for the cheapest tire, nor am I looking to buy the most expensive... just a good pair of "shoes"), WET/SNOW (live in midwest and can expect all the seasons plus a couple 6"+ snow days), MPG (as most driving is paved roads, trying to avoid heavier/bigger tire for no real reason other than aesthetics), and ability to handle trailer and occasional gravel/grass/non pavement driving.... and a tire that is correct for the vehicle*

The current tires I am looking at are:
Falken Wildpeak AT Trail. Continental Crosscontact LX25. Pirelli Scorpion AT Trail.

If anyone has any other tires I am open to look into them. Just I am on the fence if I really need an AT tire for the light "off roading" I do. but dont see any comparable tires to the Pirelli Scorpion AT besides tires that are slightly more aggressive and beefier tires which I dont feel I really need. It will just cost me money in MPG for a beefier AT tire I dont really utilize that will just look pretty.... that maybe a solid all season tire would work too? let me know. thanks!

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[Hot Runr Guy]

Although TireRack doesn't carry them, I'm probably going to try the Nokian Outpost APT next. Checks most of the boxes for me.

https://nokiantyres.studio.crasman..../NT_Outpost_APT_Info_Sheet_August_22_2022.pdf

HRG

 

[Cherokee]

I’m leaning between two, I’ve had both.
Faulkin Rubitreks
And
Yokohama Geolandar G015’s

The Rubi’s are tougher, more off roadie with a bit of noise.
The Geo’s are super plush and quiet.
My stock size is 225 60R 18
I’ll go to 235 60R 18, no more.

Half inch wider, half inch taller, that should Accurize my speedo and roll out.

 

[RFEJR]

I just replaced my Pirelli Scorpion's and put on 4 Mastercraft Courser Trail tires. I would say their an economical ATR tire. I do alot of hwy driving and these drive nice on the hwy but still have an agressive tread for rain, mud, snow, and light off road. Went with same size as the truck came with and had no loss of MPG. They were about $171 a tire and had a 60,000 mile warranty. They are made by Cooper Tire which is now owned by Goodyear.

https://www.mastercrafttires.com/tires/courser-trail/24744.html

 

[Cherokee]

I just replaced my Pirelli Scorpion's and put on 4 Mastercraft Courser Trail tires. I would say their an economical ATR tire. I do alot of hwy driving and these drive nice on the hwy but still have an agressive tread for rain, mud, snow, and light off road. Went with same size as the truck came with and had no loss of MPG. They were about $171 a tire and had a 60,000 mile warranty. They are made by Cooper Tire which is now owned by Goodyear.

https://www.mastercrafttires.com/tires/courser-trail/24744.html

Error, This tire does not fit your vehicle. PMSL

 

[Connect]

All,

Currently I have a 23 EB Lariat with FX4 and 4k. Mine came from the factory with the Pirelli Scorpion AT tire. I have not had any real issues with them so far, but past half way through the tires (and at 30k miles) and starting to look into replacements to keep an eye out for any sales/rebates/deals/etc. In the past I would just use Tirerack for the customer ratings/reviews and find the best bang for the buck tire and go from there.(the best bang for buck for tires that checked off the right boxes for me*)

But I am on the fence with the next set and looking for some guidance/$0.02 from all who read this.

Currently I am looking at the Wildpeak ATs as the next tire.(see lots of reviews/comments on here about them) but I notice it is a lot heavier of a tire (6lbs more each tire) and appears to be a slightly more aggressive AT tire. Which then I started thinking if I need a more aggressive AT tire for the driving I do and driving I plan to do in the future. Gravel roads/grass/farm land/campgrounds are currently the max of what I normally do. Could I take it to an offroad park or on some trails...sure... but most likely not expecting to.... but 90% of my time is paved roads.

That made me think about if I really need an AT tire, or an all season tire, or maybe just getting the same Scorpion tire again. but based on the reviews of the current Scorpion on tirerack, I would prefer one that is rated higher(better overall tire then), but again no real issues with them currently. Just a fair/good tire, no complaints.

Then when I started looking at the Scorpion design of the tire and comparison to most all season tires.... I do not see much of a difference. That made me wonder if the current Scorpion tire I have would even be any different than an all season tire for the driving that I currently do. I do plan on buying a small non pop-up camper (around 3k lbs) within the next year or so and would need to make sure the tires will handle that as well, but thats where I am hoping for your knowledge/experience will help me decide.

I am aware this is all my decision, but it wont hurt to ask around for pointers/personal experience with the tires I may pick out. The main things I am looking for are: PRICE (not looking for the cheapest tire, nor am I looking to buy the most expensive... just a good pair of "shoes"), WET/SNOW (live in midwest and can expect all the seasons plus a couple 6"+ snow days), MPG (as most driving is paved roads, trying to avoid heavier/bigger tire for no real reason other than aesthetics), and ability to handle trailer and occasional gravel/grass/non pavement driving.... and a tire that is correct for the vehicle*

The current tires I am looking at are:
Falken Wildpeak AT Trail. Continental Crosscontact LX25. Pirelli Scorpion AT Trail.

If anyone has any other tires I am open to look into them. Just I am on the fence if I really need an AT tire for the light "off roading" I do. but dont see any comparable tires to the Pirelli Scorpion AT besides tires that are slightly more aggressive and beefier tires which I dont feel I really need. It will just cost me money in MPG for a beefier AT tire I dont really utilize that will just look pretty.... that maybe a solid all season tire would work too? let me know. thanks!

Just replaced my factory continentals. I was at 37.5K miles and I could have probably got another 5K out of them I'm doing a road trip in October. I was orignally planning around black friday, but found a labor day deal I was happy with so went ahead and replaced them.

 

[TedTX]

Wow you guys really know tires. A need them tall for a camanding view. Whatever, HELPS me see farther a head clearly.
But I need to feel secure, and comfortable my families feels safe. And safe for everybody on the same road. Travel is scary, like that lady in Europe who plane was porked by confusing direction.
My biggest fear is WET roads. The whole climate is dreey like heavy rain storms. EVERY BODY should stay dry. AS fast as a storm comes it can clear.

 

[RFEJR]

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How so?

 

[Cancunbadlands]

245/65R17 Falken Wildpeak AT tires

 

[surfstar]

Although TireRack doesn't carry them, I'm probably going to try the Nokian Outpost APT next. Checks most of the boxes for me.

https://nokiantyres.studio.crasman..../NT_Outpost_APT_Info_Sheet_August_22_2022.pdf

HRG

Great choice - light for the category.
Another option - Yokohama Geolandar CV 4S

I'd buy whichever is lower priced out of these two. Both will do great on road and snow/ice, and have better bite offroad vs a regular all-seaon or all-weather tire.

 

[Fishingjts]

For a mild but very good AT I would look at BFG Trail Terrain. Not that aggressive but do well on and offroad. Great in snow. Had them on my Bronco sport

 

[LanceMav]

I'm a Michelin preferred guy. Lots of tread designs to choose from. May cost a bit more, but Costco often has special sales on them. And their prices always include mounting and balancing, road hazard failure and nitrogen fill too.

 

[notfast]

The current tires I am looking at are:
Falken Wildpeak AT Trail. Continental Crosscontact LX25. Pirelli Scorpion AT Trail.

A "trail terrain" tire is exactly what I was going to suggest, such as the ones you listed or the Cooper Road+Trail AT.

The scale from least aggressive pretty much goes:
Street/summer tire - all season/all weather - trail/rugged terrain - all terrain - mud terrain - Super Swampers - tractor tires

There's a lot of line blurring between those categories. My current truck has the Discount Tire special Goodyear Wrangler Ultraterrain ATs, which are either a really aggressive all terrain or a really mild mud terrain. The traction and chip resistance is great but the tires sounded like I had 4 bad wheel bearings (the whomp-whomp-whomp) from the day I got them and it's only gotten worse as the tires wear.

I'm a Michelin preferred guy. Lots of tread designs to choose from. May cost a bit more, but Costco often has special sales on them. And their prices always include mounting and balancing, road hazard failure and nitrogen fill too.

I suggest Michelins if you drive a ton (like 20,000+ miles a year). I had Michelin LTX AT2s and Michelin Defenders on various cars and trucks and I can say they wear like iron and have great traction and low noise up until they're bald, but they dry rot incredibly quickly (like 4-5 years).

My hotshot buddies swear by Michelin Defenders. They also only run Michelin XPS Rib tires on the trailers. Never had a tire failure unlike with the cheap tires from the trailer store.

 

[Maverick123]

Based on what I've read on here the Firestone Destination AT seem to be a good compromise between weight, noise, grip and price.

235/65-17 (stock size for Tremors) is popular if you want slightly bigger tires for a bit more ground clearance or for looks

 

[Misterwakko]

For 90% road, I'm all for
Cooper
Discoverer Road+Trail AT

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