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Hey everyone,

We’ve noticed some folks have caught on to the recent price increase, so we wanted to take a moment to explain what’s going on.

There are two main reasons behind the change. First, when we partnered with OEM+ to bring these kits to you, our goal was to get them out fast and at the best possible price. Second, the cost of the OEM Ford screens used in these kits has gone up significantly. Ford recently raised prices on these components, and unfortunately, that increase has carried over to us as well.

We didn’t see this coming, as we’ve been consistently ordering these kits and only recently found out about the spike in cost. Panda even absorbed the first smaller increase without hesitation, because we wanted to keep things accessible for our supporters. But the jump on this latest batch was just too much for us to cover alone.
We truly appreciate your continued support and understanding as we navigate this. Our goal is always to deliver quality products while being transparent with our community.

Thank you,
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From 1150 to 1700+ takes me out of the game. SHIT
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From 1150 to 1700+ takes me out of the game. SHIT
For the 12" screen,
The Base to Sync 4 went from $1499 to $1749
The Sync 3 to Sync 4 went from $1149 to $1499
 

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From 1150 to 1700+ takes me out of the game. SHIT
Saw that coming. Once I saw it had jumped on one site I knew it was going to hit the rest soon.
 

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Saw that coming. Once I saw it had jumped on one site I knew it was going to hit the rest soon.
Feel like I took it in the but Bob. Almost 2k for four inches? Like plastic surgery.
 

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Feel like I took it in the but Bob. Almost 2k for four inches? Like plastic surgery.
The system you have is free and works fine. Life goes on, man.
 

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I bought the upgrade directly from OEMplusupgrades. My setup is the XLT (aka Sync 2.5). Sam was super helpful and responded to all my noob questions quickly. I have had it running for about a week and here are my impressions:
1. Install was very easy and plug and play. Took me about an hour because I was being real careful with trim pieces.
2. the screen is an amazing upgrade to the 8". not only do you have a lot more screen but the resolution and contrast is so much better.
3. I had to use forscan to enable the ambient lighting in the new APIM.
4. Wireless CarPlay performs much better. connection time is seconds and in some case I'm getting audio from CarPlay before the screen switches over.
5. Temperature is displayed on screen for both the hvac and outside...see pic. when you adjust the fan/temp it shows onscreen same as with what you got.
6. I feel like audio fidelity is better, but I wear hearing aids so take that as you will :)
7. Ford Pass is still working. that setup info is stored somewhere else in some other module. downside is you can't manage those setting from Sync 4. you'd have to reconnect the old ACM and display to make adjustments. Otherwise, I can still remote start, lock/unlock and get telemetry.
8. GPS is enabled. but map updates I don't believe works... for me I don't care since I use CarPlay.
9. For me, I'm very pleased with this setup. no regrets.

What doesn't work:
1. No software upgrades. What you have is what you get. besides, I don't think we'll get many (or any) more updates on older Sync tech so not much of a loss there.
2. connected services won't work since it wasn't an option before

I have not monkeyed with Forscan enough to see what else I can or can't enable. I'll update if/when I can.

lastly, this isn't for everyone. but for those of us that like to tinker and upgrade things that don't have to be upgraded it's perfect. :). I you don't like messing with Forscan or pulling trim panels and messing with electronics, it's not for you.

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Doing my own auto tinkering like this is definitely not my forte. Do you think a car audio shop would be able to do it for me?
 

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Terrible rat hole I was led down👎
 

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Hey everyone,

We’ve noticed some folks have caught on to the recent price increase, so we wanted to take a moment to explain what’s going on.

There are two main reasons behind the change. First, when we partnered with OEM+ to bring these kits to you, our goal was to get them out fast and at the best possible price. Second, the cost of the OEM Ford screens used in these kits has gone up significantly. Ford recently raised prices on these components, and unfortunately, that increase has carried over to us as well.

We didn’t see this coming, as we’ve been consistently ordering these kits and only recently found out about the spike in cost. Panda even absorbed the first smaller increase without hesitation, because we wanted to keep things accessible for our supporters. But the jump on this latest batch was just too much for us to cover alone.
We truly appreciate your continued support and understanding as we navigate this. Our goal is always to deliver quality products while being transparent with our community.

Thank you,
– The Panda Team
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It's understandable, but a little frustrating. I was strongly contemplating buying, if I'd known the piece increase was coming, I'd have pulled the trigger. I don't think I can justify the expense now though... I was already waffling cause of cost.

Please let us know if a sale is coming or if prices might come back down in the future.
 

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It's understandable, but a little frustrating. I was strongly contemplating buying, if I'd known the piece increase was coming, I'd have pulled the trigger. I don't think I can justify the expense now though... I was already waffling cause of cost.

Please let us know if a sale is coming or if prices might come back down in the future.
Same. Now for the cost, I'd rather just trade my 24 in for a 25 and get AWD and 4k towing
 
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... if I'd known the piece increase was coming, I'd have pulled the trigger. I don't think I can justify the expense now though... I was already waffling cause of cost.
Add me to the list, the HUGE price increase instantly took it off my desired "mods" list.
 

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I bought the upgrade directly from OEMplusupgrades. My setup is the XLT (aka Sync 2.5). Sam was super helpful and responded to all my noob questions quickly. I have had it running for about a week and here are my impressions:
1. Install was very easy and plug and play. Took me about an hour because I was being real careful with trim pieces.
2. the screen is an amazing upgrade to the 8". not only do you have a lot more screen but the resolution and contrast is so much better.
3. I had to use forscan to enable the ambient lighting in the new APIM.
4. Wireless CarPlay performs much better. connection time is seconds and in some case I'm getting audio from CarPlay before the screen switches over.
5. Temperature is displayed on screen for both the hvac and outside...see pic. when you adjust the fan/temp it shows onscreen same as with what you got.
6. I feel like audio fidelity is better, but I wear hearing aids so take that as you will :)
7. Ford Pass is still working. that setup info is stored somewhere else in some other module. downside is you can't manage those setting from Sync 4. you'd have to reconnect the old ACM and display to make adjustments. Otherwise, I can still remote start, lock/unlock and get telemetry.
8. GPS is enabled. but map updates I don't believe works... for me I don't care since I use CarPlay.
9. For me, I'm very pleased with this setup. no regrets.

What doesn't work:
1. No software upgrades. What you have is what you get. besides, I don't think we'll get many (or any) more updates on older Sync tech so not much of a loss there.
2. connected services won't work since it wasn't an option before

I have not monkeyed with Forscan enough to see what else I can or can't enable. I'll update if/when I can.

lastly, this isn't for everyone. but for those of us that like to tinker and upgrade things that don't have to be upgraded it's perfect. :). I you don't like messing with Forscan or pulling trim panels and messing with electronics, it's not for you.

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I have a weird question for you. I installed Sam’s 8” kit. Everything is great, and a massive improvement over the factory system. I just am not a fan of the 12” display, and for my needs the 8” is perfect. However, today I noticed that I can’t use the steering wheel controls to answer/end calls with the respective buttons when CarPlay is connected. If I disable CarPlay and only connect via Bluetooth, things work properly. However, if CarPlay is connected, the same buttons work just fine for changing stations/songs. Tried with another iPhone, no change. I even performed a module master reset and updated my phone. Hoping it is an easy fix!
 

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I have a weird question for you. I installed Sam’s 8” kit. Everything is great, and a massive improvement over the factory system. I just am not a fan of the 12” display, and for my needs the 8” is perfect. However, today I noticed that I can’t use the steering wheel controls to answer/end calls with the respective buttons when CarPlay is connected. If I disable CarPlay and only connect via Bluetooth, things work properly. However, if CarPlay is connected, the same buttons work just fine for changing stations/songs. Tried with another iPhone, no change. I even performed a module master reset and updated my phone. Hoping it is an easy fix!
I haven't had any issues with the steering controls. but I mostly use the volume and ff/rw buttons listening to music and podcasts. Have you reached out to Sam? he's pretty good at responding. Might just be something that needs to be tweaked in the ACM or APIM.
 

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I haven't had any issues with the steering controls. but I mostly use the volume and ff/rw buttons listening to music and podcasts. Have you reached out to Sam? he's pretty good at responding. Might just be something that needs to be tweaked in the ACM or APIM.
I have but thought I’d see if it was a common occurrence before I messaged. Thanks!
 

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About a 3 week lead time on these kits currently.
Yes, wireless CarPlay!
Install is not difficult at all, as it includes a plug n play harness as well as a mounting bracket. Anyone can do it! We will have an install video here pretty soon.
How is the install video coming? My sync 4 is coming today.
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Help! I received the 8" upgrade kit today for my Lariat and got to step 4 and things didn't look right. It turns out the QR code for the Lariat installation instructions are actually for the XL/XLT. In fact all of the QR codes on the sheet go to the XL/XLT instructions. I'm sitting here on a Saturday evening with a substantial portion of my dash removed and no contact info with my package to request help even if Caleb or someone with the company was available on a weekend. Hopefully someone will see this post at least Monday if not before that can help me. I would prefer not to put it all back together only to have to take it apart again.
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