Hello, looking for a swiss army knife of vehicles.

[chrisofpa]

I think the hybrid would surprise you -- it's not "fast", but the power is surprisingly adequate due to the rapid torque delivery from the electric motor.

For what it's worth, my last daily drivers were a supercharged AMG and a 5.7L Ram. I am very satisfied with my Hybrid's performance.

Regarding FX4 vs Tremor, I think the ~4-5 MPG savings with FX4 are worth it for your commute. It's still intended for offroad with skid plates and tow hooks.

I think before making the decision, I will test drive the AWD Hybrid so I can make an informed decision. As for the fuel economy, in real world driving the Tremor doesn't seem to get significantly worse fuel economy than an FX4, at least from what I was reading here on the Maverick Forms:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/mpg-info-27-plus-normal.50938/

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[chrisofpa]

Yeah the hybrid can satisfy that in some respects, with the electric able to kick in 236 lb-ft at low speeds, it feels similar to my old diesel Jetta, which was really dog slow, but the giant lump of torque made your head tip back at takeoff so you felt like you were going fast Really they need to launch the PHEV version so we can have a 300-350hp street light-to-light racer like they have in the RAV4 PHEV, that thing is ridiculously quick.

See that's the thing, the Maverick Hybrid seems to be great for fuel economy but it sacrifices acceleration for it in comparison to other hybrids. Considering I am a lead foot and I am mostly driving highways, I have to ask myself, will I be satisfied giving up the acceleration for fuel economy I might not see based on how I drive.

I owned a Chevy Sonic once, which was rated for 40 MPG highway and the best I could do was 28 MPG. That's why I figured if I can get 22-24 MPG with the Maverick and have some pep, that would be better for me.

 

[710-oil-614]

See that's the thing, the Maverick Hybrid seems to be great for fuel economy but it sacrifices acceleration for it in comparison to other hybrids. Considering I am a lead foot and I am mostly driving highways, I have to ask myself, will I be satisfied giving up the acceleration for fuel economy I might not see based on how I drive.

I owned a Chevy Sonic once, which was rated for 40 MPG highway and the best I could do was 28 MPG. That's why I figured if I can get 22-24 MPG with the Maverick and have some pep, that would be better for me.

Go buy your Tremor and enjoy 21mpg

 

[Dr.Me]

Tremor is more off road oriented imo but to each their own. Any trim in with FX4 + 4k would be the more well rounded, the trim you choose (XL, XLT, Lariat) would be what creature comforts you want. Personally I went with the same "Swiss Army Knife" in mind. Also, non FX4 is also a good all rounder if you know you'll be modding suspension and such but you'll probably want to search how to get the fx4 or Tremor drive modes. Just make sure its AWD. It's a headache to do but I've seen members here do it.

 

[OleFordGuy]

See that's the thing, the Maverick Hybrid seems to be great for fuel economy but it sacrifices acceleration for it in comparison to other hybrids. Considering I am a lead foot and I am mostly driving highways, I have to ask myself, will I be satisfied giving up the acceleration for fuel economy I might not see based on how I drive.

I owned a Chevy Sonic once, which was rated for 40 MPG highway and the best I could do was 28 MPG. That's why I figured if I can get 22-24 MPG with the Maverick and have some pep, that would be better for me.

If thats the case, you should get the EcoBoost, by your driving description, i don't think you will like the hybrid nor get the high gas mileage you see posted often. The EB is real peppy, think you will be surprised, and if you like to smile, put it in Sport Mode, you'll smile from ear to ear.

 

[chrisofpa]

You do get all of that. Coming from your Fusion currently how often do you find yourself needing the advanced AWD system? Or do you just fancy it on paper?

Tremor is going to run you over $40k, you're going to get mid size fuel economy, and you don't really have a true off road vehicle - you lack low gearing, true underbody protection, ground clearance, bumpers are plastic...etc.

I found that the Tremor is a compromised vehicle, not a swiss army knife. Which is why I have a 2025 AWD 4K Hybrid now, and she did just find getting me up to my mountain property in pouring rain yesterday.

EDIT: As others have pointed out if you want a swiss army knife vehicle a Maverick can fit that bill, but the Tremor isn't that. Tremor is a great soft roader.

But if I'm going north of $40k for a Tremor - I am jumping over to a 2025 Frontier Pro 4X for mid 40s or a Ranger.

Yes, I drove my Fusion through blizzards and through heavy wash out rains, I never got it stuck and I had many times where I didn't see the road had massive puddles and the AWD kicked in to give me the traction I needed. A friend of mine has a cabin and doesn't plow it out in the winter, I am able to drive in it, park it and drive out in close to a foot of snow. Thanks in part to the Michelin Crossclimate 2 tires I use and the AWD system in that car. It is by far the best car I ever had for bad weather, its way better than my former Chevy Sonic with snow/ice tires I threw on it for winter driving.

Right now the Tremor I am looking at is $37,000, also if I get in the 20's MPG range like my Fusion, I can live with it. I just feel based on how the FX4 and hybrid is equipped, I wouldn't feel confident doing more than say a gravel road with them. However, if I totally say forget any off roading, the FX4 and Hybrid would meet my needs. I realize the Tremor isn't going places a body on frame truck with a true 4 lo can go but from what I have seen from the YouTube reviews and from the Tremor section of the form, it seems like you can do some light to moderate off roading.

To be honest, I looked at the Ranger and I really like it but the way I wanted it equipped would be $10,000 more than a Tremor. It doesn't have an AWD mode like the Tremor and I occasionally drive into NYC to visit with old friends, it's 10 inches longer than a Maverick and 20 inches longer than my Fusion so it would make street parking more challenging.

This is why I would rather stick with 2 vehicles but I am tired of the insurance/maintenance cost on 2 vehicles.

Regardless, I appreciate the advice even if it's not what I was hoping to hear, this is an expensive purchase and I need to consider all factors before buying.

 

[chrisofpa]

Maverick is a great vehicle, but when transitioning from a SUV or car need to know the bed is very difficult to seal out water. It's not a trunk. Even with the best cover, it needs additional sealing. If a perfectly dry cargo area is a priority, a Bronco Sport is a better choice
Many water posts for reference: https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/search/4558331/?q=water+leaks+bed&o=date

Here's the thing, I am looking at the Diamond covers, specifically this model:

https://diamondbackcovers.com/products/diamondbackse?variant=28905652553

The reviews I have read around the internet say it can provide that level of sealing, unlike the Bronco Sport the Maverick still has the pickup bed for bulkier items and its a far better looking vehicle.

 

[chrisofpa]

You said, “wanted to bring along 4-5 people”
In a Maverick ?
4 if not of the larger size,
5 in a Mav, I wouldn’t think so.
I’m 5’11” and my seats nearly all the way back. Say another inch or two to go. When I try to sit behind my driver seat it’s a bit tight.
I’ve had 4 in mine. Both the front seats needed to move up a bit.

I already got 5 people in my Fusion, leg room was a little snug but it was done. 3 big dudes, a skinny dude and a woman. I have to still tour the Maverick but I would be shocked if the rear seat dimensions were worse than my Fusion. The longest trips I will be doing with that many people are 2 hours tops, not like I am going to drive across country with that many people.

However, I will be checking out the rear seat myself to get a proper idea of what I would be in for.

 

[chrisofpa]

Go buy your Tremor and enjoy 21mpg

I am at a bit of a loss with the snarky comment but ok?

 

[chrisofpa]

If thats the case, you should get the EcoBoost, by your driving description, i don't think you will like the hybrid nor get the high gas mileage you see posted often. The EB is real peppy, think you will be surprised, and if you like to smile, put it in Sport Mode, you'll smile from ear to ear.

That's what I feel, I never got the EPA rating on any vehicle I owned. My Fusion is rated for 29 MPG highway and I get 24 MPG. My Sonic was rated for 40 MPG and I got 28 MPG. I feel the hybrid won't be worth the loss in acceleration and I do enjoy a vehicle that can put a smile on my face. Even the Youtube reviewers that drove the hybrid and 2.0L Ecoboost Maverick mentioned the noticeable difference in performance.

But I have been convinced, based on what I read here, to test drive both.

 

[chrisofpa]

I put a divider board in the bed for doing order pickup at Walmart and such so stuff doesn't slide to the front, although the success rate of the employees knowing how to operate the zippers on the cap and how to open the tailgate without slamming it open varies; I haven't really noticed the bags getting wet or anything in rain other than what they get on the way out to the truck, but time will tell. I might just start using the back seat simply to make it easier to understand how to open and close the cargo area for the order pickers!

I would be worried about 5 adults, but we've had 4 full sized dudes on an 8 hour trip, one ~6'3" in the back and it was a good trip. We didn't move the seats but we put the tall one behind the short on in front for a little extra slouching and squirming room. 5, I have my doubts on that being nice, unless its kids - they can handle it.

I myself am looking at the Diamond Back SE cover and the divider made by Ford, so I can have a large dry storage area when I need it and the ability to take the cover off when I want to carry more bulky items. It's an expensive cover but based on the reviews, its well regarded for its performance: https://diamondbackcovers.com/products/diamondbackse?variant=28905652553

As for seating expectations, I don't think the rear seat can be tighter across or legroom compared to my Fusion and I got 5 people into it for upwards of 2 hours. I rarely have more than myself or one other person in the vehicle, let alone 4-5 but I will be sure to investigate the back seat of the Maverick to make sure its not worse than what I already have.

 

[Sticks]

I think before making the decision, I will test drive the AWD Hybrid so I can make an informed decision. As for the fuel economy, in real world driving the Tremor doesn't seem to get significantly worse fuel economy than an FX4, at least from what I was reading here on the Maverick Forms:

https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/forum/threads/mpg-info-27-plus-normal.50938/

TBH I didn't realize that the 2025 Tremor is EPA rated 27mpg highway, versus 24mpg highway on the 22-24's.

See that's the thing, the Maverick Hybrid seems to be great for fuel economy but it sacrifices acceleration for it in comparison to other hybrids. Considering I am a lead foot and I am mostly driving highways, I have to ask myself, will I be satisfied giving up the acceleration for fuel economy I might not see based on how I drive.

I owned a Chevy Sonic once, which was rated for 40 MPG highway and the best I could do was 28 MPG. That's why I figured if I can get 22-24 MPG with the Maverick and have some pep, that would be better for me.

The Ecoboost is faster, but the difference isn't huge in regular highway merging/passing. If you do serious spirited driving, the Ecoboost is pretty zippy with some performance upgrades.

Even with a heavy foot and A/T tires, my (FWD) hybrid still gets better MPG than Ecoboost.
90% interstate highway = 33 MPG (dash-calculated) consistently.

 

[chrisofpa]

I agree with Hunters Edge, the Tremor is nice, but nothing about it would trump the 4K Tow Pkg in the long run to me. You never know what the future holds, the 2K max on the non 4K pkg vehicles can get absorbed relatively quickly when you start adding up all the things that make up that 2K or 4K weight limit. Weight add up Quickly. I have no idea if the FX4 includes the skid plate or not but that's a simple add on for any of the trim levels. IMO go for the trim level you desire with the 4K Tow Pkg as a must have. Good luck with your decision.

Thanks man, I will put some thought into it I just don't see myself towing anything for some time, I really don't have ability to store anything that requires a trailer and I don't see myself spending the money to own something that needs to be towed.

 

[chrisofpa]

TBH I didn't realize that the 2025 Tremor is EPA rated 27mpg highway, versus 24mpg highway on the 22-24's.


The Ecoboost is faster, but the difference isn't huge in regular highway merging/passing. If you do serious spirited driving, the Ecoboost is pretty zippy with some performance upgrades.

Even with a heavy foot and A/T tires, my (FWD) hybrid still gets better MPG than Ecoboost.
90% interstate highway = 33 MPG (dash-calculated) consistently.

Yeah the official EPA rating is 21 city and 27 highway, so I suspect driving the way I do will land me somewhere in the middle of the range. However, before putting money down, I will see how I enjoy driving the Maverick AWD Hybrid.

 

[Gray Goose]

Here's the thing, I am looking at the Diamond covers, specifically this model:

https://diamondbackcovers.com/products/diamondbackse?variant=28905652553

The reviews I have read around the internet say it can provide that level of sealing, unlike the Bronco Sport the Maverick still has the pickup bed for bulkier items and its a far better looking vehicle.

That's a top notch cover. However, the Maverick bed design is different than any other truck. There is no gap between the rear window and the bed to drain water. There is also a gap on the bed rail that needs to be sealed. Unless the review comes directly from a Maverick owner, do not rely on it.

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