Retrofit Adaptive Cruise 2025 XLT

[greensky14]

Blind Spot isn't required for Lane Centering/ACC.

Good to know! That will save me a bunch of time and I’ll definitely start with trying the front radar then.

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[HaveMave]

Guys, I am following this thread. Anyone able get any updates if its doable or not. Specifically related to Camera Module wiring. TIA

 

[HaveMave]

Don't forget the whole IPMA setup is different on the '25s (new module is behind the seat, separate from the windshield camera). So the wiring and programming is likely to be significantly altered.

Darnon, could you give me a bit of info. Where is IPMA? Behind rare seat and that black box or under the back seat which will be accessible after removing trim? I have gathered all pieces needed for ACC. I will try with help of you guys. I will not mount CCM module now. Will wire CCM to IPMA first to see its compatibility. It looks like rather than splitting cables between fuse and IPMA. For 2025 all cables go to IPMA.

 

[84convertablegt]

Here is a tidbit of information.
As others have said, the 2025 is completely different than the 2024. Also, starting in 2025 the canbus network is encrypted with TRON which is going to make a lot of upgrades way more difficult or impossible without having FDRS, unless Forscan can someday support re-encrypting all of the modules. Luckily the ACCM radar module isnt on the encypted network. New for 2025, all of the wiring for power and ground and network + and - will be going directly from the IPMA behind the rear seat to the grill radar(this actually makes that part easier). The camera on the windshield is just a camera with a coax connection to the IPMA.
Still just need to change out the left steering wheel switch and update the setting in the SCCM. What isnt known is whether the IPMA in the XL/XLT even supports the adaptive cruise? There is a different part number for the Lariat trim trucks. I'm hopeful that this is more for the 360 camera option and not the adaptive cruise control, but am not certain yet. Luckily Ford uses the same modules in many vehicles with many configurations, which is the only reason any of this is ever possible. I do have all of the part numbers for the bracket, CCM, harness pigtail and cover, but Ive been waiting for someone else to do it first. It's a lot of money for the new parts. Need some folks to wreck their Lariats and get some junkyard parts availability first.

 

[colinl]

What isnt known is whether the IPMA in the XL/XLT even supports the adaptive cruise? There is a different part number for the Lariat trim trucks. I'm hopeful that this is more for the 360 camera option and not the adaptive cruise control, but am not certain yet.

what are the 2 part numbers? I can look it up with 2 vins, but it sounds like you already have them.

then, with the non-lariat camera part# you can look at what vehicles it is also used in. if it's a (full sized) bronco ipma camera that is bad news since it doesn't support lane centering... but I suspect it isn't.

 

[BlueSpec1]

I was just looking up the PNs, these look like the IPMA
Lariat adds front camera & side.

2025 2.0L Lariat 3FTTW8SA5SRA24989 4WD
14F509
Front
Rear View Camera Fixed. Towing Vision System.
$982.17 https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/front-p-sz6z14g647c?pdp=y#/sectionId:1253417329
Part #: SZ6Z14G647C

2025 2.5L XLT 3FTTW8H31SRA74829
14F509
Control Asy - Advanced Driver Sys
$857.09 - https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/c...sys-p-sz6z14g647a?pdp=y#/sectionId:1253417330
Part#: SZ6Z14G647A

 

[colinl]

I was just looking up the PNs, these look like the IPMA

2025 2.5L XLT 3FTTW8H31SRA74829
14F509
Control Asy - Advanced Driver Sys
$857.09 - https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/c...sys-p-sz6z14g647a?pdp=y#/sectionId:1253417330
Part#: SZ6Z14G647A

that says rear view camera, so no, not the windshield IPMA camera.

 

[BlueSpec1]

that says rear view camera, so no, not the windshield IPMA camera.

Ford's module descriptions in parts seem vague at times.
I'm looking at the module in parts diagram (14F509) on back wall that the cameras feed into, IPMA - Part#: SZ6Z14G647A, Part #: SZ6Z14G647C

Windshield Mounted Camera:
Lane Departure System Camera Image Processing Module - Front, Center (19G409A)
PN ML3Z19H406A
$90.42 https://parts.ford.com/shop/en/us/e...ssing-module-front-center-p-ml3z19h406a?pdp=y

Lane Keep Assist Camera Label: ML3T-19H406-BC

IPMA Camera
The lane keeping system contains a IPMA camera located on windshield (above the interior rear view mirror), that is used to detect the position of the vehicle within the lane.
The IPMA camera requires a camera alignment when removed or replaced.

IPMA
The IPMA is located behind rear passenger seat on driver side. The IPMA communicates on the FD-CAN 3 and on vehicles equipped with the adaptive cruise control and collision warning system, the IPMA shares information with the CCM on dedicated CAN circuits to assist the driver in avoiding a collision.

 

[colinl]

Ford's module descriptions in parts seem vague at times.
I'm looking at the module in parts diagram (14F509) on back wall that the cameras feed into, IPMA

Windshield Lane Departure System Camera Image Processing Module - Front, Center 19G409A
PN ML3Z19H406A

it's the camera itself that would be the first and primary concern. that looks like 19g490a shaded red. 19g490d on the lariat is shaded green.

so then we google that and get the full part number which is nl3z19g490a and then we see this part has been used on high trim f150s that definitely came with adaptive cruise control with lane centering.
https://ford.oempartsonline.com/oem-parts/ford-camera-nl3z19g490a

does this mean 2025 xl/xlt can be modified to use ACC? maybe not, there's many hurdles. but I think the IPMA camera seems compatible and the module is the same as Lariat.

the ipma module itself is 14f509 and it's the same on both so that's a good sign.

 

[HaveMave]

There is a lot of positive news in few above replies, I appreciate that. I will start adding cables on IPMA as bluespec1’s diagram above. If CCM is detected, I will report that.

 

[84convertablegt]

Some part numbers and diagrams for reference and help...
CCM Sensor Assy S1PZ-9E731-A
CCM Sensor Bracket SZ6Z-14C022-B
Screw W506976S450B
CCM Sensor Plastic Cover SZ6Z-17E810-A
( For reference only - IPMA High Module Lariat SZ6Z-14G647-C... IPMA Low Module XLT SZ6Z-14G647-A)
CCM Front Wiring Assembly (I probably would just build my own harness) SZ6Z-14B474-DA

 

[84convertablegt]

IPMA module on Lariat and XLT is not the same according to part numbers at least A vs C. I suspect difference is 360 camera (with more inputs from the front and sides) and hopefully the ACC is the same on both.

 

[HaveMave]

IPMA module on Lariat and XLT is not the same. I suspect difference is 360 camera (with more inputs from the front and sides) and hopefully the ACC is the same on both.

The part list is awesome and appreciate the effort you invested to keep up with, Hope the difference between Lariat and XL is just for 360 camera. I noticed my CCM assembly is different, based on pre 25 model CCM, but I am hopeful at least it gets detected.

 

[84convertablegt]

It could be the exact same part. They updated all part numbers for 2025. I'm not sure though. Definitely let us know. Would be great if a previous year CCM works.

 

[BlueSpec1]

IPMA module on Lariat and XLT is not the same according to part numbers at least A vs C. I suspect difference is 360 camera (with more inputs from the front and sides) and hopefully the ACC is the same on both.

Might be like in the F150Gen14 ACC thread where they mention base IMPA w Reverse Camera vs. Advanced IPMA w 360 Cameras.
https://www.f150gen14.com/forum/threads/adding-co-pilot-assist-2-0-with-forscan.5028/post-217823

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