Ford to launch Maverick EV (I hope this is true)

[Phimosis]

Like you said above the Ram Charger is a series hybrid, those are getting the designation EREV. Theres an ICE that only acts as a generator, its not connected to a transmission. PHEV usually used to describe parallel hybrid that you can plugin like the Escape PHEV, Rav 4 Prime, Prius Prime, Wrangler and Grand Cherokee 4xe etc. All of those have an ICE connected to a transmission that drives the vehicle and an electric motor sandwiched between the ICE and the transmission or built into the transmission itself. So calling the Ramcharger a PHEV would lead you to think its built and operates similarly to one of the Primes or 4xes.

It’s still a plug-in hybrid. Is RAM really calling it a EREV? That is a term that GM’s marketing team made up to try to distinguish the Chevy Volt from the Prius and no one else was really using that term. But either way, they are all plug in hybrids.

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[Darnon]

It’s still a plug-in hybrid. Is RAM really calling it a EREV? That is a term that GM’s marketing team made up to try to distinguish the Chevy Volt from the Prius and no one else was really using that term. But either way, they are all plug in hybrids.

And in the end the Volt ended up being able to mechanically connect the ICE to the drive wheels anyways.

 

[Scott Asheville]

An extended Range BEV can be incredibly different from a traditional hybrid. Saying they're necessarily the same is misleading and untrue.

 

[Phimosis]

An extended Range BEV can be incredibly different from a traditional hybrid. Saying they're necessarily the same is misleading and untrue.

This sounds like a green-washing talking point from legacy auto exec or a spokesman from the fossil fuel industry. For people that believe in climate science, buy EV’s, drive EV’s and/or work in the renewable economy, if it has a gasoline powered engine in it, it is a hybrid, not an EV. Because when it comes to achieving carbon neutrality, there is no carbon neutral solution that includes ice engines.

Calling a series-hybrid vehicle an “extended range EV” is automaker’s marketing teams attempting to green-wash their gasoline powered vehicles to fool consumers into believing that they are buying an EV and not a hybrid. This is similar to Toyota claiming they have more “electrified vehicles” than any other automaker, when in reality, their only EV is the BZ4X and the FTC is going after them for misleading advertising.

https://www.citizen.org/news/blurry...er-ftc-complaint-alleging-misleading-marking/

 

[dochawk]

Get a Star Trek portable transporter.

And have that dammed plot crutch scramble my atoms all over the place?



[OK, to be fair, it wasn't a plot crutch until the spinoffs. For Star Trek itself, it was not having the special effects budget to land a ship every week!]

 

[rad32]

It’s still a plug-in hybrid. Is RAM really calling it a EREV? That is a term that GM’s marketing team made up to try to distinguish the Chevy Volt from the Prius and no one else was really using that term. But either way, they are all plug in hybrids.

This is from Ram's own site. But I got it, your point they both plug in and have an ICE so they are hybrids thus PHEVs. My point is to anyone buying one or other they operate and are built differently.

 

[Scott Asheville]

• Traditional ICE: A combustion engine drives the wheels through a transmission.
• Mild hybrid: Same as ICE, except that small electric motor (like a more powerful starter motor) paired with a very small battery (often 48V) can supplement the engine or drive the vehicle for very short periods.
• Hybrid: Same as ICE, except that a larger battery and motor can independently drive the vehicle for a longer period of time. Typically 30-50 miles pure electric.
• Marketing REV: Not a REV at all. Just a hybrid (possibly with a bigger battery and motors) with marketers lying about what it is.
• True REV: For an engineer, an REV is a BEV vehicle with a decoupled ICE engine that recharges the battery. The engine never directly drives the wheels.

And then there are all kinds of Rube Goldberg entities. ICE vehicles up front with a BEV in back. The combinations are endless. As is the confusion.

 

[Jpalmer1]

Put me in the PHEV camp.

 

[Aherpa]

From Autoline Daily... They usually don't spread BS, so I'm hoping this is true.

FORD TO LAUNCH MAVERICK EV​

Ford found a nice niche for its Maverick pickup truck when it was launched nearly 4 years ago, with sales running around 130,000 units a year. And now the company wants to leverage that success by coming out with an electric version. Autoforecast Solutions reports that the Maverick EV will go into production in April of 2027. AFS says the truck, with the code-name P833, will be tooled for 100,000 units a year. And curiously, it will be built in the company’s assembly plant in Louisville, Kentucky and not at its plant in Hermosillo, Mexico, where the ICE version of the Maverick is built. Louisville is where the Ford Escape is made, and since the two of them will be made side by side, that strongly suggests that Ford will be coming out with a BEV version of the Escape, as well.​

https://www.autoline.tv/daily/ad-39...nch-maverick-ev-honda-cuts-ev-orders-from-gm/

I get that most MTC members hate and despise BEVs. You be you. But this news nugget may dissuade me from updating my Maverick with another ICE version this fall.

I would not trade my hybrid for a full electric, not interested at all. . . I would trade it for a plug-in hybrid though, in a minute.

Sad, if true, that Ford will go full EV before doing a PHEV drivetrain option. Like another poster said 'did they not learn with the EV F150'?

 

[FreedomPenguin]

From Autoline Daily... They usually don't spread BS, so I'm hoping this is true.

FORD TO LAUNCH MAVERICK EV​

Ford found a nice niche for its Maverick pickup truck when it was launched nearly 4 years ago, with sales running around 130,000 units a year. And now the company wants to leverage that success by coming out with an electric version. Autoforecast Solutions reports that the Maverick EV will go into production in April of 2027. AFS says the truck, with the code-name P833, will be tooled for 100,000 units a year. And curiously, it will be built in the company’s assembly plant in Louisville, Kentucky and not at its plant in Hermosillo, Mexico, where the ICE version of the Maverick is built. Louisville is where the Ford Escape is made, and since the two of them will be made side by side, that strongly suggests that Ford will be coming out with a BEV version of the Escape, as well.​

https://www.autoline.tv/daily/ad-39...nch-maverick-ev-honda-cuts-ev-orders-from-gm/

I get that most MTC members hate and despise BEVs. You be you. But this news nugget may dissuade me from updating my Maverick with another ICE version this fall.

I think I’m going to be pulling out of Maverick after a week of contemplation., ev and phev excite me more than hybrid. My gf has Nissan rogue which can be used for our baby seat if we do have a child in next year or two. My car is paid off and cost 40/mo ins. Granted I get 25mpg average, atleast in winter.

I’ve had gas all my life, I would love to charge overnight in a garage once a week or twice. I work 16miles round trip, and my longest journeys is 60miles round trip

so if waiting to see what happens yields no change, I can pay in full when time comes too since I can save.

Or I get hybrid and forget this thoughts. My house is paid off Feb 26, and thinking why go in more debt if a phev or ev is truly coming soon

 

[slashsnake]

the rest of your post was interesting as well, but I'm curious about this one. is that your fully burdened rate or just what you see on the line item?

the reason I ask is that I have a smart thermostat and it's linked to the local energy company, and it has awareness of peak hours, off-peak, and even when energy is cleaner. (in Kansas, that means from a wind turbine.)

but there are so many fees that my advertised rates are not the real price I'm paying. the vast majority of my energy is in the off-peak rate, almost used 10x the on-peak. and I have some super off-peak as well. but the final bill with flat fees and rated charges actually results in a bill for $102.07 against an energy usage of 781.542 kwh, which my calculator says is $0.1306 per kwh.

That is interesting as well. I wish we had on/off peak where I live, that 3 cents would be awesome, that's a penny a mile basically for me and my EV. But the flip side is its simple math here. Our customer charge and 10.9 cents per kWh.

Interesting secondary costs there though... but wow... 3 cents for super off peak. Then I see fuel for some reason is charged for the full bill so even super off peak (meaning wind turbine) gets the fuel used in power generation surcharge. It looks almost 8 cents a kWh there by the time the surcharges come into play (not including the customer charge as that is being paid whether you get an EV or not).

Ok looks less awesome once doing the math even with an EV lol.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

That is interesting as well. I wish we had on/off peak where I live, that 3 cents would be awesome, that's a penny a mile basically for me and my EV. But the flip side is its simple math here. Our customer charge and 10.9 cents per kWh.

Interesting secondary costs there though... but wow... 3 cents for super off peak. Then I see fuel for some reason is charged for the full bill so even super off peak (meaning wind turbine) gets the fuel used in power generation surcharge. It looks almost 8 cents a kWh there by the time the surcharges come into play (not including the customer charge as that is being paid whether you get an EV or not).

Ok looks less awesome once doing the math even with an EV lol.

we pay 6.5c kWh

 

[1929]

What is the range?
What is the cost?
Any reviews on Maverick EV?
When will there be Lobo Maverick EV?

 

[FreedomPenguin]

oh boy, I have multiple dedicated 20amp outlets in my garage, box on their own breakers, right onto of each other. I can pull one of them, and turn that slot into a 240v 20amp box, and need to change the outlet of course too.

but that means I can have 20amp 240v charging for literally minimal effort. I had 3 dedicated 20amp outlets ran a few years ago, 1 for treadmill, one for a deep freezer, and one for power tools, they said it would be cheaper to run multiples instead of one, so I paid like two hundred extra for 3 of them.

I kind of want a PHEV or EV now knowing that I can charge at fast speeds

 

[JeffH13]

If the Escape is discontinued as of 2025 how will they be made side-by-side?

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