Recent Oil Analysis

[Ozarkbeard]

Does the truck come with full synthetic from factory? For break in reasons I mean

Look at OP's engine type (in their profile).

OP has an ecoboost. Oil recommendations for the ecoboost are different than your Hybrid.

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[FreedomPenguin]

Look at OP's engine type (in their profile).

OP has an ecoboost. Oil recommendations for the ecoboost are different than your Hybrid.

I had a 2015 & 2017 mustang ecoboost, it came with full synthetic. thats why im asking.
edit, google says my 2015 came with blended synthetic. interesting

ive always put synthetic in everything because I am under impression in every single aspect its superior. didnt think break in would be harmed with it

 

[Tbone289]

ive always put synthetic in everything because I am under impression in every single aspect its superior. didnt think break in would be harmed with it

It wouldn't unless you were using a 100% Group-IV base stock (PAO) synthetic, and even that isn't proven to be of "harm". If you were buying "Full Synthetic" off-the-shelf, from a dealer, or from an oil change store, you were using a Group-III base stock oil. Those oils are not truly synthetic; they're highly-refined conventional oil. In the US those oils can legally be labelled as synthetic oil.

 

[Cherokee]

Does the truck come with full synthetic from factory? For break in reasons I mean

I asked a dealer mech, he said the factory first oil load is the same synthetic blend
you get in a $39 service. I chose to believe him.

 

[Master Blaster]

I assume that you are checking the oil in an EcoBoost, as full synthetic is the minimum requirement on the hybrid since it spends a lot longer running cold and a far larger number of cold starts. I switched to full synthetic many years ago on both naturally-aspirated and turbos, since it lasts twice as long and only costs a few dollars more to get a lot better engine wear numbers. In my case the difference is $15/yr for a lot better oil. With so many of the current engines mandating synthetic oil, its starting to be hard to find decent dino oil that meets the requirements.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

do you guys think the Mobil 1 full synthetic afe I think called, green is adequate? It claims 10k miles protection

I buy at Costco. Like 6 quarts for 25-30

 

[inline_five]

do you guys think the Mobil 1 full synthetic afe I think called, green is adequate? It claims 10k miles protection

I buy at Costco. Like 6 quarts for 25-30

These are the currently approved Mobil 1 oils for the hybrid:

• Mobil 1 Advanced Fuel Economy 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Extended Performance 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Hybrid 0W-20
• Mobil 1 Truck & SUV 0W-20

Some other oils if you want to use something else:

Hybrid 2.5L: Oil that meets Ford's WSS-M2C962-A1 spec (LIST and COMMENTS)

 

[FreedomPenguin]

I wonder if afe vs hybrid is better.
Hybrid piques my interest bc it says hybrid lol

 

[Cherokee]

do you guys think the Mobil 1 full synthetic afe I think called, green is adequate? It claims 10k miles protection

I personally took more than one engine into the
extreme high mile service arena using Mobil 1 full synthetic.

Two examples,

1996 Jeep Cherokee RWD Automatic and the 4.0 L Straight six, that was an AMC designed motor developed in 1957 and converted to EFI.
Bought at 12,000 miles. It ran 50/50 mix of Interstate and city.
Mobil 1 Full Syn and a Napa Gold oil filter at 10,000 mile oil change intervals.
At 396,000 miles the rear main let go leaking two quarts per tank and getting worse.
I had an Honest Mechanic that told me If I replaced the two main seals for $400 they
would last maybe a week.
He said they failed because the crank bearings had worn out to the point of vibration.
The worn out crank bearings and subsequent vibration would destroy a new rear main
seal within just a few hundred miles.

2008 Toyota Tacoma 2.7 Ltr 4 cylinder automatic.
Bought new, 1st oil change was with a blend at 1,000 miles.
Second was at 5,000 miles, blend again.
Third at 10,000 miles and every oil change from then on was at 10k mile intervals,. Just like the Jeep Cherokee.

The engine ran perfect for over 1/2 million miles.
At 528,000 miles it was getting weaker, Imagine that !
Compression was falling off.
I traded it out still running smoothly.

That's how good Mobil 1 is.

 

[CajunMick]

It wouldn't unless you were using a 100% Group-IV base stock (PAO) synthetic, and even that isn't proven to be of "harm". If you were buying "Full Synthetic" off-the-shelf, from a dealer, or from an oil change store, you were using a Group-III base stock oil. Those oils are not truly synthetic; they're highly-refined conventional oil. In the US those oils can legally be labelled as synthetic oil.

TBone, I did research on oils, aware of Grp IV base stock PAO. Also aware of a plant in Korea, that is mostly Saudi Arabia own, that formulate synthetic stock to be used as lube oil.

i was keenly interested in Motorcraft brand, or more specifically where that oil comes from. Learned it’s ConocoPhillips, produced by a plant in Houston, Tx, for MC brand, and others. i had visited Bartlesville, Ok, where Phillips originally based. There learned how innovative the company is, its chemical research in fuels and oil. Their chemistry dept snd development impressive. Learn a bunch there talking to few old timers with a long list of Phillips 66 patents.

As I said interested in MC oil, since the local Ford Quick Change uses MC oil. I do worry of that since theirs could be bulk oil, and one would not know what that oil really is. I’m not saying may do devious biz, but not know. The service receipts calls out the FordPN of the oil pumped in the engine. I have to trust, leave it at that. It’s a trust, but verify point.

I believe, understand through discoveries that MC “full” synthetic lube oil is on par with Grp IV.

 

[Tbone289]

I believe, understand through discoveries that MC “full” synthetic lube oil is on par with Grp IV.

I'm not sure what you mean by "on par". Everything I've read states that MC synthetic oil is Group III, and the cost of it reflects that. Do you have a reliable source stating that it's Group IV?

 

[CajunMick]

I'm not sure what you mean by "on par". Everything I've read states that MC synthetic oil is Group III, and the cost of it reflects that. Do you have a reliable source stating that it's Group IV?

No I don’t. The MC full synthetic may be a mix with high percentage of grp 4 in its contents. ? MC brand has its “blend“ or semi synthetic and “full“ synthetic labeled bottles.
The lube oil synthetic biz is a mess.
as I said, the 2 different sample readings by Blackstone reveals low viscosity. And in Texas summers, heat can be brutal.

 

[Tbone289]

No I don’t. The MC full synthetic may be a mix with high percentage of grp 4 in its contents. ? MC brand has its “blend“ or semi synthetic and “full“ synthetic labeled bottles.
The lube oil synthetic biz is a mess.
as I said, the 2 different sample readings by Blackstone reveals low viscosity. And in Texas summers, heat can be brutal.

Typically "full synthetic" is 100% group III, and "blend" is any fraction of group III base stock blended with group II base stock. In the US, "synthetic blend" can refer to 99% group II and 1% group III, none of which is truly synthetic. They are mineral oils.

You're right though; it's a mess, especially with the blurred lines of what can be called synthetic in the US. You can't rely on the labeling to determine what you're actually getting.

 

[FreedomPenguin]

I used to use amsoil signature in everything, but its just annoying buying enough to get free shipping, and its double the price of the AFE mobi 1 from costco, so thats what ive been using for last 2 years or so.

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