New Recall on BCM ISSUE. 2022 to 2024.

[boe757]

didn't have a 1975, but I drove a 1976 over 100,000 miles. I got a heads up about the fuel tank issue. the two tank hanger bolts extended down through the frame about 6 inches like two giant fangs, if you were hit from behind the tank would be driven into and torn open by the bolts. hacksawed them off, lived happily ever after - odd an engineer would design an installation like that. AND I never once received a deep sleep message!

The only deep sleep message you would have received back then would have been a Dream. No computers just vacuum lines with switches.
Rember the Courier mini truck by Ford before the Ranger. Actually a Mazda truck. The 88 version of the Mazda B2200 looks like what a now Maverick would have come from. Great little commuter truck.

remember the Courier, and the Chevy Luv, which was an Isuzu - points and plugs in the fall- always

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[Mark1]

The early courier had a 4 speed manual 4 cylinder. If you went above 60 it would rev high. I blew a head gasket 2 times in hot weather. I had it awhile and couldn't kill it.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

The only deep sleep message you would have received back then would have been a Dream. No computers just vacuum lines with switches.
Rember the Courier mini truck by Ford before the Ranger. Actually a Mazda truck. The 88 version of the Mazda B2200 looks like what a now Maverick would have come from. Great little commuter truck.

I had a 1992 Mazda B2600. Last Mazda truck. After that, they were all Ford.

 

[MavRunner]

Maybe you'll get a 1975 Pinto (otherwise know as The Portable B-B-Q Ford) as a loaner.

What do you get when you drive a Ford Pinto in reverse?
Infernophobia!

 

[grumpyunk]

Maybe you'll get a 1975 Pinto (otherwise know as The Portable B-B-Q Ford) as a loaner.

Maybe a Chevy Vega? They were as bad or worse when it came to rear end collisions, but did not get the Unsafe at Any Speed author whose name I cannot dredge up to pounce on the Chevy record. Of course you will see more Pintos on the road than you will Vegas... must be the wunnerful oil burner they installed in 99.99%. I owned a Pinto from new, and a GF had a Vega. I know which was the better vehicle.

 

[grumpyunk]

didn't have a 1975, but I drove a 1976 over 100,000 miles. I got a heads up about the fuel tank issue. the two tank hanger bolts extended down through the frame about 6 inches like two giant fangs, if you were hit from behind the tank would be driven into and torn open by the bolts. hacksawed them off, lived happily ever after - odd an engineer would design an installation like that. AND I never once received a deep sleep message!

The original fix to make the vehicle safer was to install a rubber/plastic panel at the front of the fuel tank. It prevented the sharp edge of the differential from slicing into the front of the fuel tank and causing a large opening. The long bolts are used to allow easier installation of the straps on the assembly line. The tank hangs down with the clipped end of the strap in place, and the front end is fed over the long bolts, and the nut drawn tight to put the tank into its final position. If you ever dropped a fuel tank, you would understand the help long bolts provide.

 

[SLINGSHOT]

Maybe a Chevy Vega? They were as bad or worse when it came to rear end collisions, but did not get the Unsafe at Any Speed author whose name I cannot dredge up to pounce on the Chevy record. Of course you will see more Pintos on the road than you will Vegas... must be the wunnerful oil burner they installed in 99.99%. I owned a Pinto from new, and a GF had a Vega. I know which was the better vehicle.

Ralph Nader. Killed the Corvair

 

[DougK]

Well, if this involves my truck, I'll now have 3 pending recalls on an 8 month old vehicle. Ford builds are crap. I like the idea of this truck and nothing else.

my wife's Honda CRV hybrid has 2 recalls pending as well.. as a software engineer, I blame all the software ;-)

 

[boe757]

The original fix to make the vehicle safer was to install a rubber/plastic panel at the front of the fuel tank. It prevented the sharp edge of the differential from slicing into the front of the fuel tank and causing a large opening. The long bolts are used to allow easier installation of the straps on the assembly line. The tank hangs down with the clipped end of the strap in place, and the front end is fed over the long bolts, and the nut drawn tight to put the tank into its final position. If you ever dropped a fuel tank, you would understand the help long bolts provide.

I understand the ease of installation, but how did that work out for Ford, what did it cost to make it easy. A temp support for the tank could have been designed by the industries smartest engineers, during MFG and dropping a tank is not a semi annual event like changing oil.
I understand the last thing engineers are concerned with is maintenance and over the past 65 years I have the scars and memories. Thinkin you meant the rear of the fuel tank, unless tanks are installed backwards.
Good luck if your working maintenance

 

[Darnon]

Thinkin you meant the rear of the fuel tank, unless tanks are installed backwards.

Fuel tanks can be mounted behind the rear differential/axle.

 

[grumpyunk]

I understand the ease of installation, but how did that work out for Ford, what did it cost to make it easy. A temp support for the tank could have been designed by the industries smartest engineers, during MFG and dropping a tank is not a semi annual event like changing oil.
I understand the last thing engineers are concerned with is maintenance and over the past 65 years I have the scars and memories. Thinkin you meant the rear of the fuel tank, unless tanks are installed backwards.
Good luck if your working maintenance

Some may have mechanical supports/lifts to place the tank. The straps are mostly hooked into a slot at one end, and held by trapped threaded 'bolts' on the other. To make threading the bolts into the straps easier, and to allow the nut to grab onto the threads while more accessible, long bolts/threads are used. Generally they do not pose a danger of 'fangs' as mentioned to poke into the tank sheet metal.
In practice, either front ot rear of the tank will be stuffed above the straps, and pushed towards the end of travel, then the other end is raised, straps pushed up onto the threads, and nuts run up the bolts by pneumatic wrenches with deep sockets. More or less. The long threads mostly hang out dangling behind or ahead of the body of the tank, up and out of the way.
The rubber/plastic barrier that prevented the Pinto/Bobcat tank from getting sliced by the rear edge of the differential cover was a $5 item. Every manufacturer goes through an economic analysis of cost/benefit. It is brutal math that determines what safety measures are installed vs those that are not. If all safety items were installed on all vehicles, the cost of all vehicles would be increased. Since the days of the Pinto, starting at a base of $1919, base prices for the lowest priced have increased such that a base two door coupe is right at $20,000. I know of nothing under, with the Mitsubishi being the lowest on sale in USA from what I learned. The all have air bags, side collision protection, cameras and screens for rearward vision, padded dashes, seat belts, anti-lock brakes, and who knows what else. It is a different market and world.
The tank design used by Ford in the Pinto, Bobcat, Capri, Mustang, Mustang II, the Maverick, Monarch, Grenada, and likely more, was the 'floor' of the trunk. If you removed the fuel tank, there was no trunk floor. That was done for decades, I think.
If you look under the bed of the current model Maverick, you will find what looks like a staggered blade aimed towards the spare tire. I believe it is used to puncture the spare, possibly to prevent the release of the pressurized air that could cause fuel spray under the bed in a collision. I have not seen any analysis by engineers commenting, but that's my theory.
All interesting stuff I am sure.
tom

I am too old to be employed, but still try to do all my own maintenance and upkeep. No idea of how long that will last. Memory says that Chrysler Corp products had the sharpest bits and pieces under hood. The pointy end of sheet metal screws were exposed exactly where you would have to reach to service belts, pumps, etc. Sharp corners were left on brackets, etc. The engineers just did not seem to care to relieve the puncture, scrape and slice possibility from the parts they designed. The others of the Big Three seemed to be a lot more considerate. IMO.
tom

 

[BlueOval1954]

That issue was already a recall with software update.

Recall - 24S27 -for 239K trucks

In all of the affected vehicles, the Body Control Module (BCM) current threshold was improperly
calibrated and may falsely detect a current overload on one or both taillamp circuits. This may cause
one or both taillamps to stop illuminating during a drive cycle. Taillamp function will recover with a key
cycle or manual cycle of the headlamp switch. This issue does not affect stop lamp (including Center
Mount Stop Lamp) or turn signal functions


They may be adding more trucks to the mix, only 7.4K.
https://mexicobusiness.news/automotive/news/ford-maverick-recall-7422-units-affected-bcm-issue

due to a calibration issue in the Body Control Module (BCM) that could impact the functionality of the rear lights. This issue may lead to a false overcurrent detection in the circuits that control the rear lights, which could cause one or both of them to stop working.

Good info to pass around Heybales. This was the second recall on my truck
Now I have a third Safety Recall Notice 24S59/NHTSA Recall 24V684 re: a possible frozen rear view camera display image while in reverse. Will get this looked at on the next oil change.

 

[HeyBales]

Good info to pass around Heybales. This was the second recall on my truck
Now I have a third Safety Recall Notice 24S59/NHTSA Recall 24V684 re: a possible frozen rear view camera display image while in reverse. Will get this looked at on the next oil change.

Still interesting they added more vehicles to the mix it seems for that older recall.

Actually you won't get that new recall looked at - there is no fix yet.
You'll find all kinds of threads on it.

 

[BlueOval1954]

Still interesting they added more vehicles to the mix it seems for that older recall.

Actually you won't get that new recall looked at - there is no fix yet.
You'll find all kinds of threads on it.

The camera freeze recall announcement letter was dated Sept 2024 and there isn't a fix for it yet ? WOW, what is Ford doing. Did they layoff all their software engineers ? They could send the issue over to India where there are plenty of software type folks over there.

 

[RONR11]

As we all know Ford and Harman both have duplicated the issure and was fined 165 million. My Bro in law works at Ford and stated Harman has not found a suitable software.
Again this was due to a rush to get them on the road because of the overwhelming demand and chip issue .
There is speculation that they are working on a Sync 3 to fix the problem. Any other Ford members know anything about this.
We are all smart enough to know Ford although stated they left site, they have members still on here monitoring.

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