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TL/DR: Drained my transmission on my 2.0L and came back with only about 3.5 quarts. Refill with leveling took in around 4.5 quarts. Noticed vent cap covered in presumably ATF; confused what's causing ATF vent out like that.

Yesterday I drained and refilled my ATF, PTU, and RDU like many others recommended around 30k miles. The service was actually quite easy, and if you have the tools, you should definitely do it instead of taking it to the dealer (if you want to save some $$). My local dealer quoted me almost $900! I may make a separate post on some tips and tricks I learned that I wish I knew going into the ATF change, as the process can be a little finnicky and there's not much info out there.

Both my PTU and RDU were wildly underfilled like many others have stated as well. However, I was not expecting a lower outcome for the ATF too. On most other forums and videos I've seen for the same service I've performed for the 8F35 transmission, somewhere around 4-4.5 quarts come out (which would make sense, especially for the ones who measure the drained amount and put the same amount back in with new fluid). With mine, I got around 3.5 quarts. I refilled with 5 quarts, leveled it off at operating temp, and maybe around 0.25-0.5 quarts came back out.

Although, before I started, I noticed the transmission vent cap looking like this:
Ford Maverick Underfilled Transmission From Overheating Issue? IMG_0048 Ford Maverick Underfilled Transmission From Overheating Issue? IMG_0047

Now I'm not sure the pictures do it enough justice, but the funnel and surrounding area were densely crusted in what I'm guessing is ATF fluid. Now this has me worried: Is something up with my Mav? Is the trans getting too hot, causing the ATF to vent out like that? I live in the Central Valley of California, where this year's summer temps averaged well over 100-110 for months on end on my ranch. Did anyone else encounter the same issue when they performed this too?

Either way, my truck runs fine, even before. I'm pretty glad I was able to top off the correct fluid levels so that puts me at ease. To see if this issue keeps happening, I will most likely pour half a quart or so of ATF and level it off on my next oil change and see how much comes out.

Your feedback is appreciated, thanks!
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TL/DR: Drained my transmission on my 2.0L and came back with only about 3.5 quarts. Refill with leveling took in around 4.5 quarts. Noticed vent cap covered in presumably ATF; confused what's causing ATF vent out like that.

Yesterday I drained and refilled my ATF, PTU, and RDU like many others recommended around 30k miles. The service was actually quite easy, and if you have the tools, you should definitely do it instead of taking it to the dealer (if you want to save some $$). My local dealer quoted me almost $900! I may make a separate post on some tips and tricks I learned that I wish I knew going into the ATF change, as the process can be a little finnicky and there's not much info out there.

Both my PTU and RDU were wildly underfilled like many others have stated as well. However, I was not expecting a lower outcome for the ATF too. On most other forums and videos I've seen for the same service I've performed for the 8F35 transmission, somewhere around 4-4.5 quarts come out (which would make sense, especially for the ones who measure the drained amount and put the same amount back in with new fluid). With mine, I got around 3.5 quarts. I refilled with 5 quarts, leveled it off at operating temp, and maybe around 0.25-0.5 quarts came back out.

Although, before I started, I noticed the transmission vent cap looking like this:
IMG_0048.jpeg IMG_0047.jpeg
Now I'm not sure the pictures do it enough justice, but the funnel and surrounding area were densely crusted in what I'm guessing is ATF fluid. Now this has me worried: Is something up with my Mav? Is the trans getting too hot, causing the ATF to vent out like that? I live in the Central Valley of California, where this year's summer temps averaged well over 100-110 for months on end on my ranch. Did anyone else encounter the same issue when they performed this too?

Either way, my truck runs fine, even before. I'm pretty glad I was able to top off the correct fluid levels so that puts me at ease. To see if this issue keeps happening, I will most likely pour half a quart or so of ATF and level it off on my next oil change and see how much comes out.

Your feedback is appreciated, thanks!
Nice work. Your should be able to find a Dorman Dipstick. I have one for my 2020 Fusion AWD. I change all fluids (Engine,Trans, PTU, RA) every 5000 miles for under $200. in material.
 

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Can't help but wonder if this sort of thing had anything to do with why mine was so grabby when it was cold? My gut was telling me to check all the fluid levels when the vehicle was new - there is nothing stopping the factory tech from making an error in filling these fluids. But I didn't do it and should have.

Good on you for doing the service at 30k - otherwise you would never have noticed this. Every vehicle we own is getting the same treatment.

The temperatures in your area are kind of extreme and it would not surprise me if that was the culprit. Does yours have a transmission cooler?
 
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Nice work. Your should be able to find a Dorman Dipstick. I have one for my 2020 Fusion AWD. I change all fluids (Engine,Trans, PTU, RA) every 5000 miles for under $200. in material.
Appreciate it. I've always been hesitant about working on a transmission but the dealer price made me think otherwise haha....
 
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Can't help but wonder if this sort of thing had anything to do with why mine was so grabby when it was cold? My gut was telling me to check all the fluid levels when the vehicle was new - there is nothing stopping the factory tech from making an error in filling these fluids. But I didn't do it and should have.

Good on you for doing the service at 30k - otherwise you would never have noticed this. Every vehicle we own is getting the same treatment.

The temperatures in your area are kind of extreme and it would not surprise me if that was the culprit. Does yours have a transmission cooler?
I've noticed that my transmission works a little differently in cold weather too, but more like it has trouble finding the right gears and shifting awkwardly. Works much different in hot weather.

After seeing the low levels of multiple vital components, it gets even harder to trust Ford. As long as it gets you past the 60k mile warranty...

Not sure if it does but I don't think so. During the summer I did some light towing in the heat, I'm guessing thats what did it...
 

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Did you remove the restrictor from the trans vent tube?
Check this post to see what it looks like.
https://www.mavericktruckclub.com/f...ing-a-transmission-fluid-dump-and-fill.35633/

Since your filling through vent tube, I have to assume it's been removed or knocked sideways in the vent tube. The manual says to remove the vent tube assembly, not just the cap. If you didn't remove the restrictor plate, and you can fill through the tube quickly, it's probably still in there, just knocked sideways. You maybe able to reseat it.
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