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I’m not saying it is not a factor but far too many are stock to say that causes it. And if a dealer denies for tire size that’s a dealer to swap. Tire size should not hurt the driveline. Sure it adds some weight and size but our bench is trq limited. So no matter what size you have the same amount of trq is added.
So we can pretty much stop the bull about the bigger tires. Lifts sure it changes angles.
Then again that should but I know several that have lifts that are over 60k of off road and some hard driving. Zero issues. But we definitely have some soft driven bone stock ones killing them in 30k.
We could assume it’s bad parts at this point.
Definitely bad parts.

I bought my coilover kit right after I started driving my Maverick. But I saw enough premature axle failure to wait until mine wore out before I lowered it.

I got 49k miles before mine went South...
 

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Plenty of Ecoboost Mavericks have had axle failures, even Tremors...
None like hybrids. Why argue that the hybrid CV axles aren’t the weak point? We know it was an entirely different design than for ecoboosts
 

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None like hybrids. Why argue that the hybrid CV axles aren’t the weak point? We know it was an entirely different design than for ecoboosts
Who said hybrid axles are solid???

The fact is, Ecoboost axles have been failing prematurely just like the hybrids.

Especially when lifted with a 2 inch puck spacer...


Not a huge deal if you plan on doing your own axle replacements. But expecting a dealership to cover them on a modified truck (under warranty) just AIN'T gonna happen!

That is all-
 

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Who said hybrid axles are solid???

The fact is, Ecoboost axles have been failing prematurely just like the hybrids.

Especially when lifted with a 2 inch puck spacer...


Not a huge deal if you plan on doing your own axle replacements. But expecting a dealership to cover them on a modified truck, under warranty just AIN'T gonna happen!

That is all-
But the problematic part that has been updated for 2025 is the hybrid CV axles.

that is all -
 

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Like the look of your truck! Definitely like a Maverick Raptor. Right on!
 

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I guess that's bad news for 2025 Ecoboost buyers.who plan to install a puck lift...
I would suggest if they were going to do that they also swap our their CV axles with Tremor axles - which doesn't mean they won't have issues but the Tremor has a different and beefier internal design and the EBs can swap for Tremor without issue.
 

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I would suggest if they were going to do that they also swap our their CV axles with Tremor axles - which doesn't mean they won't have issues but the Tremor has a different and beefier internal design and the EBs can swap for Tremor without issue.
That's good to know about the EB and Tremor compatibility. I thought there was something slightly different between the two of them. If I ever have to do them, I'll be looking into that.
 

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That's good to know about the EB and Tremor compatibility. I thought there was something slightly different between the two of them. If I ever have to do them, I'll be looking into that.
There is a lot different between the two but they are a direct fit replacement for ecoboost.

Hybrids cannot use Tremor axles
 
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There is a lot different between the two but they are a direct fit replacement for ecoboost.

Hybrids cannot use Tremor axles
Gotcha! I thought there was some difference in the splines or something that prevented cross-compatability. Good to know!
 

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OP your truck looks awesome! Great job indeed! 🤘
 

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Bought my maverick about 15k miles ago (used) for a ridiculously good deal (12k after 10k trade in). I only wanted a truck because my wife's ecosport was able to hit this "short cut" over a curb to the grocery store my fusion couldn't do, sooooo now we're here. I've towed 4k cross country during a move, maintained 70-80mph and averaged 15mpg. Now I'm getting 25mpg after all the add ons.

He's a brief list of everything I've added;

EGR Rugged fender flares (Custom painted)
Ford raptor tailgate Applique (custom cut/molded)
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Future mods;
Rocker panel delete (heavy welding required)
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Planned Future add ons;
Form lighting headlights (whenever they stop gatekeeping)
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Not planned but desired mods/add ons (hella money required)
2.3l head swap
Turbo upgrade
Functional hood scoop
GR40 suspension
Raptor-esque front and rear fender fabrication


One of the most common questions I get asked is "why". Well simply; i think it's hilarious, and i got it for such a good deal that I don't mind dropping roughly what I paid for in modifications. It's for my amusement, if you're amused, hell yeah. If you're inquisitive, I'm happy to answer whatever questions I can confidently help with. If you hate it, so does my wife.

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Where did you find your Maverick stickers? I like those, they are the perfect size
 

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Definitely bad parts.

I bought my coilover kit right after I started driving my Maverick. But I saw enough premature axle failure to wait until mine wore out before I lowered it.

I got 49k miles before mine went South...
The irony here is hilarious. You’ve been repeatedly and fervently arguing that the problem with the maverick’s CV joints is aftermarket modifications putting undue strain on the part. Meanwhile, you own a stock-height hybrid and you’ve had CV joint failures….. which exactly the point of all the pushback against your comments. The problem is the parts design, that was made for the Ford Focus, with minimal ground clearance and minimal CV angles, not for a heavier pickup with increased ride height, which increases CV angles. And from what I have read, stock height hybrids have higher CV angles than lifted awd mavericks do.

And even with all of that said, lifted awd and stock height hybrids mavericks will have CV angles of less than 15 degrees, which is not all that much. Stock tacomas are >20 degrees and they are known for reliability.

The problem is not the CV angle. The problem is a lightweight part that was not designed to handle a heavier vehicle with larger and heavier tires and more CV angle to provide increased ground clearance- even in stock form.
 

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The irony here is hilarious. You’ve been repeatedly and fervently arguing that the problem with the maverick’s CV joints is aftermarket modifications putting undue strain on the part. Meanwhile, you own a stock-height hybrid and you’ve had CV joint failures….. which exactly the point of all the pushback against your comments. The problem is the parts design, that was made for the Ford Focus, with minimal ground clearance and minimal CV angles, not for a heavier pickup with increased ride height, which increases CV angles. And from what I have read, stock height hybrids have higher CV angles than lifted awd mavericks do.

And even with all of that said, lifted awd and stock height hybrids mavericks will have CV angles of less than 15 degrees, which is not all that much. Stock tacomas are >20 degrees and they are known for reliability.

The problem is not the CV angle. The problem is a lightweight part that was not designed to handle a heavier vehicle with larger and heavier tires and more CV angle to provide increased ground clearance- even in stock form.
Please quote where I said "The problem with CV axles is aftermarket modifications".

What I do tell people, is a 2 inch puck lift will make the CV axle assemblies fail FASTER...

I don't know from personal experience, just by listening to other owners complaining about multiple early failures on their lifted trucks.

What I find hilarious, is when people form an opinion, misquote other members, and cling to it regardless of the facts-
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