Sensitive parking brake?

[Art Vandelay]

Chops, what makes you an expert on my weight if you’ve never met me? AND…why do you assume I’m huge?

Oh right, you're that overly sensitive guy who started multiple threads about uncomfortable seats. Here we go again. He didn't say anything about you being overweight. You can have two under weight people and one is still heavier than the other. You must be a millennial who is only used to hearing everything is peaches and roses. There's no need to turn this into another endless thread complaining that someone called you over weight.

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[Synner Syndrome]

I’m Gen X thank you very much, AND Yeah I do get annoyed by people calling me overweight or fat. I’m not yet I get people on here insinuating that I am. Where do people come off with that kind of crap? It’s almost like they think to themselves I can just go off and insult this guy and people are gonna think I’m cool for making that kind of comment

 

[Synner Syndrome]

Oh right, you're that overly sensitive guy who started multiple threads about uncomfortable seats. Here we go again. He didn't say anything about you being overweight. You can have two under weight people and one is still heavier than the other. You must be a millennial who is only used to hearing everything is peaches and roses. There's no need to turn this into another endless thread complaining that someone called you over weight.

Also, I did not start three threads about the same thing. I did start one quote about the Maverick seats. That is correct. The second threat I started was about ideas on how to replace it as in different seats from different manufacturers or different types of seat covers or potentially leather covered fixes. The third one was not about the Maverick seats at all. It was about the base level trims in all vehicles across the Ford lineup and if they had less features than all the other ones to make them not as comfortable. So therefore yes I started three threads about seat seats however those three threads were not all about the same thing. Other people in the thread decided to turn it that way but that’s not what the intention nor the meaning behind the thread in the first place was about

 

[Chops]

Synner, I am a new member on this forum. My first interaction with you was on your thread declaring you were selling your Maverick because the driver seat was excruciatingly uncomfortable for you. Many many forum folks offered you possible solutions. Did you try them? Did you find improvement? Nope - you would drift off topic & return to your complaint. Myself and a few others encouraged you to sell your truck already. Did you sell as you said you would? Nope - just new seat thread started with complaints reworded.

And your complaints about the sound system. Have you offered solutions or tried out the many solutions that this forum offers from many who have ingeniously improved the sound system? Nope, just continued complaints.

Your new & latest complaint about the parking brake is a stroke of complaining genius No one has offered solutions to this non existent problem that you would ignore anyway. Bravo

Finally, I believe the topic of your corpulence came up in your first seat complaint thread. I do not know how & why that came up. But if you would have sold your truck as promised - it would not have entered the conversation.

And to be clear, obesity is not something to ignore. I’m a tad chunky butt do take action to address my situation.

 

[Aleks]

I’m Gen X thank you very much, AND Yeah I do get annoyed by people calling me overweight or fat. I’m not yet I get people on here insinuating that I am. Where do people come off with that kind of crap? It’s almost like they think to themselves I can just go off and insult this guy and people are gonna think I’m cool for making that kind of comment

This is a clear-cut case of Dr Jekyll and Mr Grump.

 

[808Goose!]

Back to the subject, please?
There are two auto hold features built into your Maverick. The button actuated one is driver selected and works at all times the vehicle is stopped, even on level ground. The other one is called hill assist and is non selectable and always defaulted to "on". This feature holds the brakes and the vehicle when on an incline, both uphill and downhill. It is intended to avoid roll back or roll forward when moving the foot between brake and gas pedals. This feature is most valuable on manual transmission vehicles or automatics that have stop/start or neutral stop. Like it or not, your insurance company is thankful you have this.

 

[Triangle6887]

Back to the subject, please?
The other one is called hill assist and is non selectable and always defaulted to "on". This feature holds the brakes and the vehicle when on an incline, both uphill and downhill. It is intended to avoid roll back or roll forward when moving the foot between brake and gas pedals.

I'm guessing this is separate from the parking brake? My driveway has a roughly 15 degree incline and I've never had any sort of auto parking brake engage like OP is claiming to experience. If OP is having the actual parking brake engage when making movements like turning to park, that doesn't seem to be functioning right and needs to be seen by a dealer.

 

[Darryl]

I've never had any issues like that with mine. The parking brake only come on when I set it myself and only releases when I use the button to release it.

This is either user error or there is an issue with your truck. You should make an appointment with the local dealership to have it checked.

The 2025 will automatically engage if you're are on an incline when you shift into Park. But it shouldn't engage under the conditions the OP described

 

[Darryl]

Your situation seems most unusual. The parking brake should not automatically engage on a 2025 unless you put it in park when parked on an incline. Parking maneuvers and normal driving should not cause it to engage. Does the light actually come on. Or does the vehicle just seem to be stuck in place? And does it release when you press the accelerator, or do you have to manually release it? You might want to take it to the dealership and have them ride with you while you demonstrate what's happening . It will go a long way towards helping them to see what's going on isn't normal. Perhaps the vehicle thinks you're shifting into Park. Or the auto hold function is malfunctioning.

 

[Chops]

The ECU in our Mavericks process data from an inclinometer, accelerometer, wheel speed sensors, and pedal sensors. When it determines the car is on a sufficient incline, stationary, and the brake pedal is released, it activates the hill assist.

It is very important, for safety reasons, that the hill assist braking only occurs when the Maverick is stationary. If it activates while in motion - a serious accident could occur.

I think the OP should bring it to a dealer asap - maybe even have it towed there to avoid injury? Also, the NHTSA should be advised of this defect in the event that a recall is appropriate.

 

[Synner Syndrome]

Synner, I am a new member on this forum. My first interaction with you was on your thread declaring you were selling your Maverick because the driver seat was excruciatingly uncomfortable for you. Many many forum folks offered you possible solutions. Did you try them? Did you find improvement? Nope - you would drift off topic & return to your complaint. Myself and a few others encouraged you to sell your truck already. Did you sell as you said you would? Nope - just new seat thread started with complaints reworded.

And your complaints about the sound system. Have you offered solutions or tried out the many solutions that this forum offers from many who have ingeniously improved the sound system? Nope, just continued complaints.

Your new & latest complaint about the parking brake is a stroke of complaining genius No one has offered solutions to this non existent problem that you would ignore anyway. Bravo

Finally, I believe the topic of your corpulence came up in your first seat complaint thread. I do not know how & why that came up. But if you would have sold your truck as promised - it would not have entered the conversation.

And to be clear, obesity is not something to ignore. I’m a tad chunky butt do take action to address my situation.

1) Again I’m not fat. Why do you continue to insinuate that I am? Telling me you’re chunky but you address it is YOUR situation. I however am not fat
2) Let’s go over everything I have done since you have stated I have not done anything
2A) first when I felt the pain in the seat, I contacted a physical therapist to see what they would recommend. He suggested I purchase egg carton foam and get 2 to 3 inches of it and place that on the seat and get a lumbar support pillow. I did just that. I would place the egg carton foam on the seat and then put my seat cover over top of it. The seat cover had ridges of memory foam that were about a half an inch to an inch high. Because of the height of the foam and the fact that it doesn’t go down I had to twist my way into the car sliding my leg underneath the steering wheel in on top of the egg carton foam and then swinging my other leg over top. Caused pain on my right hip which did not have it originally. I do have a strained IT band on my left side as well as bursitis on that so I was trying to doctor that so I didn’t have that hurt
2B) after using egg carton foam for about 3 weeks, and starting to get pain on the right side of my hip I contacted the Ford dealership where I bought my car to ask if they had any solutions with the parts department. The parts department told me that they had heard from other people that the Maverick seats were not comfortable, including the guy on the phone himself who had one, and he suggested that I look into the brand called purple and pick up a cushion from them. I did just that. I went to the store and purchased the ultimate cushion which was I believe 22 inches wide and placed that under the seat cover that I had. And when it didn’t really work that way I took it out from underneath and put it on top and I drove around on that which was 2 1/2 inches tall which elevated me higher than seat level and I was using the purple brand lumbar support that I had also bought which at the beginning I thought was going to be a good idea however it was pushing me far up and having my seat cushion pushing me up so it was squeezing me more in both sides. I drove with the purple cushion for a good 4 to 5 weeks but I did not keep that lumbar support pillow for that long. I used it for about two weeks 2 1/2 weeks until I changed it
2C) the next thing I chose was to get a different seat cushion which I currently have on there which I got from Amazon called King Phenix which is about an inch of memory foam. It’s been OK. It has not been consistent but it’s done slightly better than the other two overall because it’s not as thick and it wasn’t pushing up as much so it didn’t push up on my IT band or bursitis. By the way how I got bursitis? When I was recovering from Achilles tendon surgery. Just so that it’s up for your knowledge
2D) while I started using those, I called the local Ford dealership, not where I bought it from but the one that was closest to me, and recommended what they would suggest. They had told me to check out an upholstery place which I took up and went to. The guy had told me he could add about an inch and a half of foam and that he could add a lumbar support in the back of the seat but he could not do much due to the fabric on the seat and he did not want to disrupt the fabric otherwise he would’ve had to change the entire seat cover. I said that was fine we could look into that and I scheduled an appointment. When that appointment time came the day he had to cancel because something came up and I understand that cause things happen but I was a little bit disappointed where is the rest of my schedule did not have an opening on that day
2E) I legitimately took it two weeks later to another place right behind it. It was right across the street essentially and I talked to him. He said that he has seen this in a lot of modern cars not just Fords and that he was currently working on a Mercedes-Benz with that situation and he showed me the car. He told me what he could do was take off the cover and add a little bit of foam on the sides and add about an inch and a half of them just like the other place but he told me that he could extend out the seat using a board. he was a shorter individual and when he got into the seat he told me himself that the seats were narrow. I would say he was probably 5 foot four or 5 foot five. He took my contact information and told me he would contact me the next day because the business was about to close for the day. I took off early from work to get over there when it was almost across the county but I got there. Nothing was followed up
2F) I then went to another location who set up a date for me to come in and he said he would be able to add foam just like the other place the first place I mentioned and ironically they are good friends and that he could also add a lumbar support or push out the seat itself. So I set up a date which is supposed to come up in like a week but I set that up about two months ago
2G) finally I took it to another custom shop which can put in new seats into the car which is what I was suggesting originally in an earlier post and I’ve heard other people say the same thing but I went to that location and he saw the size of the seat and he said I can definitely see what you mean and he said I can feel the coils coming up on the side of the seat. So if you’ll see where the bolster hits the main seat up where the parts are sewn together the main big part of the front of the seat and on the side you can see in field the coils underneath the cushion or at least that part. He said that was very thin and he told me “these seats are made for 5 foot two Asian women”. I thought that was kind of funny. But he would go on to say that he would suggest a different car if I was not to go through with what it would cost which he told me would be about $2000. So I did not make an appointment with that
3) during all of this time I ended up having so much pain in my hip and in my back which caused me to get a Cortizone shot on the side of my hip on the left side where my

 

[Synner Syndrome]

Synner, I am a new member on this forum. My first interaction with you was on your thread declaring you were selling your Maverick because the driver seat was excruciatingly uncomfortable for you. Many many forum folks offered you possible solutions. Did you try them? Did you find improvement? Nope - you would drift off topic & return to your complaint. Myself and a few others encouraged you to sell your truck already. Did you sell as you said you would? Nope - just new seat thread started with complaints reworded.

And your complaints about the sound system. Have you offered solutions or tried out the many solutions that this forum offers from many who have ingeniously improved the sound system? Nope, just continued complaints.

Your new & latest complaint about the parking brake is a stroke of complaining genius No one has offered solutions to this non existent problem that you would ignore anyway. Bravo

Finally, I believe the topic of your corpulence came up in your first seat complaint thread. I do not know how & why that came up. But if you would have sold your truck as promised - it would not have entered the conversation.

And to be clear, obesity is not something to ignore. I’m a tad chunky butt do take action to address my situation.

Continued…
Where my bursitis was. That was supposed to take affect completely within two weeks and it has gotten slightly less painful on that side so I don’t feel as excruciating of pain but I still feel some.
4) now addressing the back issue. I went to the doctor and got a MRI scheduled which they have found that the car was a cause of developing arthritis in my back. I do have herniated discs in the back but those have not been aggravated in a couple of years but due to all the twisting and the adjusting to get comfortable on that seat I developed arthritis. This was also because it has no lumbar support so I constantly had to lean forward to put a pillow bind or already had a pillow on there and had to lurch myself forward to get over top of it
5) I have been in contact with a Ford mechanic who owns a Ford F150 lightning and he told me himself that the seats are very thin and very short they are also not wide. So he said there are people who will enjoy the seats and there are people who would not enjoy the seats. He said it will not be a one size fit all as nothing really ever is and he said that he was sorry to hear that I was dealing with so much pain so we have worked together to find out vehicles that would work for me. In fact I talked to him last night and he had told me that if I liked the truck so much which I do cause I’ve been having issues not wanting to trade it in and I wanted to make it work that I should go ahead with a $2000 charge from the company to try to get the seat better. But we also gave a list to see which one I would switch to
6) during this, I also went to a physical therapist and had a appointment where I worked on strengthening the left side of my hip where the pain is and working on my back. When we were in session one of the moves that he tried to do for strengthening my back was so painful he told me to skip it and work it in gently. The other ones I was using one of those stretch bands to work on pulling the leg over to the side to stretch the muscle so it won’t be so tight. That has also happened to help slightly so the hip on the left side is not nearly as painful as it was when I first started
7) I have also looked at getting those seat trackers to raise the seat up from the back to lower in the front. I’ve been looking on Amazon to see what they have but I’ve looked at that route.
8) one of the other doctors suggested a wedge and I think one of the people in here did as well but a wedge where it goes from essentially flat to taller and then up so it’s kind of like two triangles put together just in one piece which would help elevate the individual up so they’re not pushed down. This kind of brought back to that one individual earlier who stated that he had bought the truck for his daughter who was also thin and that she felt like she was sinking into the seat and that it was a peach basket feeling and that it was painful and that his wife didn’t like it either. I saved that post.

So it’s not just me and it’s not like I didn’t do anything or haven’t done anything since.

I know this seems like a novel to read but since you said I haven’t done anything I figured I’d let you know what I have done

Also, you keep bringing up the fact that you think I’m fat or overweight. I am not. I have seen an individuals in the dealership when I’m looking at other vehicles like the F150 or the Ford Explorer or the Mach E which believe it or not I believe was suggested on this form so I do pay attention and those were all much more comfortable. I test drove the Chevy blazer, the Chevy equinox, the Subaru Forrester and outback. The Kia Sorrento, the Kia Sportage. The Nissan Murano, the Nissan frontier. The Ford Bronco sport. The Ford escape hybrid. The Honda Ridgeline. A Toyota Tacoma SR5. The Toyota RAV4. The Honda CRV. The Mazda CX 90 or 50 I can’t remember which one. The Hyundai Santa Cruz. The Hyundai Tucson hybrid. The Hyundai Santa Fe hybrid

So you can see I’ve pulled out almost every option possible. Everything I could’ve done I have

 

[Synner Syndrome]

Back to the subject, please?
There are two auto hold features built into your Maverick. The button actuated one is driver selected and works at all times the vehicle is stopped, even on level ground. The other one is called hill assist and is non selectable and always defaulted to "on". This feature holds the brakes and the vehicle when on an incline, both uphill and downhill. It is intended to avoid roll back or roll forward when moving the foot between brake and gas pedals. This feature is most valuable on manual transmission vehicles or automatics that have stop/start or neutral stop. Like it or not, your insurance company is thankful you have this.

And I can understand that but my question is why would it be so sensitive? Why would I pull into a parking spot on a flat ground immediately throw the car into reverse and have the car think that there’s something going on and activate the parking brake? So it’s basically I pull in and then put on the reverse immediately and then try to back out in the car turns on the parking brake and it jacked the car up a little bit

 

[Synner Syndrome]

I'm guessing this is separate from the parking brake? My driveway has a roughly 15 degree incline and I've never had any sort of auto parking brake engage like OP is claiming to experience. If OP is having the actual parking brake engage when making movements like turning to park, that doesn't seem to be functioning right and needs to be seen by a dealer.

So to follow up on this, I went to the Ford dealership and they told me it was not normal but they have heard about it in other places. So it’s not common but they can fix it. They told me with my car also misfiring on the pre-collision thing going off when there’s nobody around me that they would need to see my car for two days in the shop. I feel like that’s a long time but that’s what they told me.

 

[Synner Syndrome]

Synner, I am a new member on this forum. My first interaction with you was on your thread declaring you were selling your Maverick because the driver seat was excruciatingly uncomfortable for you. Many many forum folks offered you possible solutions. Did you try them? Did you find improvement? Nope - you would drift off topic & return to your complaint. Myself and a few others encouraged you to sell your truck already. Did you sell as you said you would? Nope - just new seat thread started with complaints reworded.

And your complaints about the sound system. Have you offered solutions or tried out the many solutions that this forum offers from many who have ingeniously improved the sound system? Nope, just continued complaints.

Your new & latest complaint about the parking brake is a stroke of complaining genius No one has offered solutions to this non existent problem that you would ignore anyway. Bravo

Finally, I believe the topic of your corpulence came up in your first seat complaint thread. I do not know how & why that came up. But if you would have sold your truck as promised - it would not have entered the conversation.

And to be clear, obesity is not something to ignore. I’m a tad chunky butt do take action to address my situation.

Also I forgot to add in, I take ibuprofen daily to deal with the pain and I have also taken Voltaren. So to say I have done nothing is flat wrong

I have also gotten an estimate from Carmax for straight weeks. And I have talked with one of the floor dealerships where one of the salesman had told me if I wait a couple more weeks they will have a lot more discounts on cars because they are trying to clear them off by years end. That is the reason why I haven’t bought anything yet

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