Rolled the camper out of the garage today

[Oscarcat]

That trailer posted would be FINE with a hybrid. There are at LEAST a dozen people in these threads towing things like that, even a tad more with the hybrid. All sing the praises of how capable the hybrid is.

The transmission is well suited. Never any "hunting" for gears. The hybrid comes standard with better cooling capacity than the standard EcoBoost.

The hybrid falls between the 2k Ecoboost and the 4k IMHO. Truthfully, at 2k the hybrid needs no compromises. Ford is saying it will do the 2k at any speed on any road. If you tow a little MORE your speed will need to be a little less. That's the only compromise I know of.

You will want to ADD a trailer brake controller and 7 pin trailer connector.
And adding any OBDII data reader is a really good idea. I'm an avid reader and researcher and towed a 3,000 lb. high profile trailer 20,000 miles with an ESCAPE hybrid. Why would the Mav be less capable than an Escape?

The Mav Hybrid even has a tow mode and the Escape I had didn't.

Each has to decide. But I wouldn't sweat it with something like pictured here. Just keep it in the right lane on mountain grades.

P.S. I am seriously considering getting one of these for use with my hybrid.... or even a step UP. I'm looking for a separate bed and dinette because lets face it. I want to be lasy while camping and not make the bed every night and make the table every morning. I've moved heavy machinery on a utility trailer with my Mav and it was easy. Smooth ride. No fuss. No stress. No trouble keeping up with slow lane traffic everywhere we went.

Thank you for the info. Good to know about the capacity of the cooling system.
Tow mode question - it's early a.m. and I haven't been in my garage, is the tow mode one of the buttons near the shift knob? I haven't explored them.

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[SLJ]

Thank you for the info. Good to know about the capacity of the cooling system.
Tow mode question - it's early a.m. and I haven't been in my garage, is the tow mode one of the buttons near the shift knob? I haven't explored them.

Don't believe everything you read in that post. The cooling system in the "standard" ecoboost is also rated at 2,000 pounds. The 4K tow package comes with a larger transmission cooler, radiator, and fan to accommodate the additional heat when towing over 2,000 pounds. A 2,000 pound camper with the additional batteries, water, propane, and your gear will put you well over the max rated hybrid towing capabilities. You might get away with it on the flats but once you hit long grades and mountains you're asking for trouble. If you get in an accident and your overweight an insurance company can deny any claims.

 

[The Real Maverick]

Saying "2000 lbs" is safe for your truck and "2080 lbs" is going to break it shows lack of intelligence.

If you feel that way, do not tow at all.
It's unsafe for you.

Many roads are rated for 55 mph.
How many people die or burst into flames at 56 mph?

Your tires are rated for 35 psi.
What happens if you have 36 psi in them?

Now tell me who in this thread is being unreasonable?

 

[The Real Maverick]

People are treating two vastly different concepts as the same.

"Should do" is a philosophy. It is subjective. It is a personal opinion.
It is based on personal beliefs.

"Can do" is based on actual observations. It is objective. It is factual. It is based on well known science and engineering concepts.



Everything on your truck is UNDER rated.

From the seat belts, to the tires, to the bed capacity, to the tie down hooks to the trailer hitch to the towing ability.

It's built in margin for error for the first time driver doing the first time of anything who's bound to make mistakes.

 

[SLJ]

Saying "2000 lbs" is safe for your truck and "2080 lbs" is going to break it shows lack of intelligence.

If you feel that way, do not tow at all.
It's unsafe for you.

Many roads are rated for 55 mph.
How many people die or burst into flames at 56 mph?

Your tires are rated for 35 psi.
What happens if you have 36 psi in them?

Now tell me who in this thread is being unreasonable?

Your comments are all unrelated.
As I've stated, even at 2,000 your pushing the limit with the hybrid. 2080 is dry weight, nothing else. Seems you don't know the difference. Telling someone they can safely tow more than it's rated for shows your ignorance.

 

[The Real Maverick]

And you're going to tell me you've never gone 1 mph over the speed limit too.

You are not credible.
That's all.

 

[SLJ]

And you're going to tell me you've never gone 1 mph over the speed limit too.

You are not credible.
That's all.

You're grasping at straws trying to justify your comments and lack of knowledge of towing. Hopefully Oscarcat and others reading this won't take your opinion and confuse it with facts.

 

[mav_kev]

And you're going to tell me you've never gone 1 mph over the speed limit too.

You are not credible.
That's all.

You posted a picture of a scale model of a truck and trailer with a skidsteer loaded as an illustration for your post about towing capacity. So, who's credible?

Just because you and some others on the internet are comfortable exceeding the recommended towing capabilities of your Maverick doesn't mean you should advise others to do the same. This is especially true when you're giving "advice" to people clearly inexperienced with towing.

 

[BAScott62]

There was some speculation that part of the reason for the hybrid limit was the lack of a reverse gear in the transmission. Getting the extra load going backwards will eat up battery power fast.

 

[The Real Maverick]

If it's you first time towing I could not agree more. Stick with as far UNDER the 2k as you can manage.
100%.

 

[The Real Maverick]

There was some speculation that part of the reason for the hybrid limit was the lack of a reverse gear in the transmission. Getting the extra load going backwards will eat up battery power fast.

Yes and no.

If the gas engine is running, it can generate power indefinitely to power the truck in reverse. But you are limited to the electric horsepower.

In real life, horsepower in reverse is not going to be an issue. It's torque you want. And the electric motor has a lot of torque.

2k towing is what Ford wanted to say. It's what they wanted to put on the sticker. No one required them to say that. It is a "ballpark" number.

If it were a scientifically calculated number it would have been something like 2347 pounds.

But pounds do not tell the whole story. Not even half of the story. You must consider wind resistance, speed, grade, and so on.

 

[BAScott62]

As I recall, it was a cooling issue

 

[The Real Maverick]

I think people get too hung up on a single number. Gotta look at the whole big picture.

 

[The Real Maverick]

As I recall, it was a cooling issue

As field tested, the generator can get hot if it is constantly generating a lot to boost output at the wheels. The engine has more than adequate cooling.

Also the Hybrid has additional cooling over the 2k EB and the engine by design generates less heat than a turbocharged one, lets not forget that. There is literally more than 100 threads on this site about how cool:cold these hybrid Atkinson engines run and how it is so hard to get them warm in winter. The MPG is high because the gasoline (heat maker) used is low.

In practice, generator running to boost is called upon mostly when accelerating, passing, going up VERY steep grades. It's not utilized much in general conditions.

People are entitled to their opinions and each has their own comfort level doing anything. Some will put hay bales in the back. Some won't. I will stick to sound engineering aspects.

I will honesty tell anyone who wants to know objectively what these trucks can do. I will not tell anyone what they should or should not do. That's up to each person.

 

[BAScott62]

In reverse, it's not boosting power, it is the power.

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