Purpose of connecting to home wifi?

[Gatekeep]

I was on a grand jury and that’s how they determined who was at the scene of the crime. Cell phones/ cell towers.

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[paneubert]

I was on a grand jury and that’s how they determined who was at the scene of the crime. Cell phones/ cell towers.

Yeah, Google Maps/Google in general will show you your travel path for any time range you want. It is creepy to see. Mine sometimes asks me if I want to add a trip somewhere that it thinks it missed.....no joke. "Complete my Timeline" is how they phrase it.

 

[commadorebob]

I have it turned on in my Escape. Keeps Sync up to date. I turn off the optional telemetry. That said, given I work from home, I use State Farm's driving tracking because it actually saves me a ton. At one point, my agent even asked me if I'd be willing to drive my vehicle one fewer day per quarter as I was that close to a low-mileage discount.

 

[LifeAngler]

You can only decline small parts of Ford telemetry data but it’s a cost of using their service. Nothing to get too paranoid about, being as how you literally have the most efficient spy device, known to man, in your hand or pocket.

Yep, I completely got rid of my android because of how much they track. Even with a lot of the google crap disabled they still track everything you do. Apple is slightly better (motives are still shady but.not like google is).

 

[LifeAngler]

Yeah, Google Maps/Google in general will show you your travel path for any time range you want. It is creepy to see. Mine sometimes asks me if I want to add a trip somewhere that it thinks it missed.....no joke. "Complete my Timeline" is how they phrase it.

You can turn this off from what I remember on my old android but they still have their ways around it. Big tech needs regulations.

 

[colinl]

I have it turned on in my Escape. Keeps Sync up to date. I turn off the optional telemetry. That said, given I work from home, I use State Farm's driving tracking because it actually saves me a ton. At one point, my agent even asked me if I'd be willing to drive my vehicle one fewer day per quarter as I was that close to a low-mileage discount.

interesting. I have Allstate right now and my agent signed me up for their safe driver program, DriveWise and I took a hard pass after seeing a) the ridiculous privileges their app wants and b) that some years ago Allstate created a new company called Arity that hovers up all this data, uses it internally and also sells it.

No discount is worth it to me and I have a perfect record. It's bad enough that Google, Apple and Feds are looking at this, I don't need to explicitly hand even more data to an insurance company.

 

[SkeeterB]

If they want to track this old fart they are welcome. Will be bored to deaf.

 

[Joe Kelly]

While I agree with most of your post about keeping secrets secret, saying your boss is tracking you at work via your badge is going a bit far if you understand RFID technology (assuming you mean RFID chips in your badge). If you mean swiping in and out and all around throughout your workday via a magnetic strip or something, then sure, the boss is tracking you.

But if we are talking about "wireless"/unseen tracking, the "chip"/tiny inductive loop in your badge is so weak that it needs to be within 3 feet of a reader to be energized and read. Often wayyyyyyyyyy closer to the reader than that (think centimeters). The three feet thing is more of a max limit to what is currently available for passive reading. All this assuming it is a passive "chip"/antenna and not a powered one of course. I suppose some workers might be walking around with a couple ounce heavy battery powered name-tag that is broadcasting a signal at all times and being grabbed by a reader that is possibly dozens or hundreds of feet from them. But even then the accuracy of the badge location would only be as good as knowing the user is within the circle that is the range of the reader. Maybe a bit of guessing based on signal strength. Until you get into triangulation among multiple readers like you see when they triangulate a cell phone that is pinging multiple cell towers.

i agree with most of what you are saying, However you walk through 24 to 30 inch doors in a office environment on a regular basis Which is in your reader distance. In our buildings we had to swipe the badge to enter a different building, wing or floor. If we drove off the parking lot during the day we had to swipe the badge to renter the lot. Swipe the badge to get in the building then put the badge in the computer to reboot it. If going to a different building to far to walk to you were going through the same process to enter a different parking lot and the other building. When you work for a organization that works with government contracts anything is possible and everyday items like smoke alarms, ordinary office furniture can contain cameras and your limited readers. Never say never because there is a great deal of technology out there which is not necessarily in the public domain. Do you know what is in your company issued cell phone, lap top, etc. in the 1990’s the State of Israel frowned on Black Berry phones. We carried Black Berries at the time and we had to leave them at home and pick up a phone from our in country office. US citizens are now the second most surveilled people in the world and China is number 1. Again for the most part I agree with you. However do not drop your guard as you are being watched. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I just like my private life to be private. I use my Garmin GPS for travel (they know where the GPS is and sell the data). I do not receive adds on my phone or internet because of where i stopped.

 

[Joe Kelly]

interesting. I have Allstate right now and my agent signed me up for their safe driver program, DriveWise and I took a hard pass after seeing a) the ridiculous privileges their app wants and b) that some years ago Allstate created a new company called Arity that hovers up all this data, uses it internally and also sells it.

No discount is worth it to me and I have a perfect record. It's bad enough that Google, Apple and Feds are looking at this, I don't need to explicitly hand even more data to an insurance company.

I agree. I do not use the Tracking feature on the Maverick. Ford sell the data to insurance companies etc.

 

[paneubert]

i agree with most of what you are saying, However you walk through 24 to 30 inch doors in a office environment on a regular basis Which is in your reader distance. In our buildings we had to swipe the badge to enter a different building, wing or floor. If we drove off the parking lot during the day we had to swipe the badge to renter the lot. Swipe the badge to get in the building then put the badge in the computer to reboot it. If going to a different building to far to walk to you were going through the same process to enter a different parking lot and the other building. When you work for a organization that works with government contracts anything is possible and everyday items like smoke alarms, ordinary office furniture can contain cameras and your limited readers. Never say never because there is a great deal of technology out there which is not necessarily in the public domain. Do you know what is in your company issued cell phone, lap top, etc. in the 1990’s the State of Israel frowned on Black Berry phones. We carried Black Berries at the time and we had to leave them at home and pick up a phone from our in country office. US citizens are now the second most surveilled people in the world and China is number 1. Again for the most part I agree with you. However do not drop your guard as you are being watched. I am not a conspiracy theorist. I just like my private life to be private. I use my Garmin GPS for travel (they know where the GPS is and sell the data). I do not receive adds on my phone or internet because of where i stopped.

Speaking of Black Berries....this is a photo I took at the Pentagon parking lot circa 2007. Made me super confident in our national security. Haha. I just googled that number and it (at least currently) belongs to someone in the Department of the Navy. Don't know if it is the same person who lost their Black Berry with encryption device back in 2007.

 

[Joe Kelly]

interesting. I have Allstate right now and my agent signed me up for their safe driver program, DriveWise and I took a hard pass after seeing a) the ridiculous privileges their app wants and b) that some years ago Allstate created a new company called Arity that hovers up all this data, uses it internally and also sells it.

No discount is worth it to me and I have a perfect record. It's bad enough that Google, Apple and Feds are looking at this, I don't need to explicitly hand even more data to an insurance company.

I took some photos of my Maverick screen. I have two of the features on and two off however i am up in the air about turning all four off because of the data farming that is implied. Read these and decide for yourself. you need to scroll down to the dash pictures. I am not a photographer. Please go to the connectivity Setting and read all four of the options and make up your own mind.

 

[Saul T Knutz]

Meh, if THEY wanna track ya, THEY gonna track ya. From data sharing, to satellites, to 4 guys in 4 different cars following you around A-Team style. There's a camera behind your screen looking at you right now as you read this message. Have fun with that tidbit...

 

[MostlySafeBear]

The paranoia of people here is wild and founded. Can shit be mis-used? Yes. Is it? Not generally, as companies would open themselves up to enormous legal liabilities, both from the people whose data was used improperly, and also by their shareholders for subjecting their stocks to that risk.

• Can work ID badges track you when they're scanned or swiped? Yes, but they can do the same thing with a minimum wage security guard. Could there be unknown readers tracking you more closely, to a specific desk or chair? Doubtful, as the chips in the badges are passive and have a pitifully short range, usually less than 3 inches, since they are completely unpowered, and rely on the readers sending enough current to activate them. No, there is no un-released technology in your standard work badge. The same un-powered chip technology, with the same limitations, is in some credit cards, and is different than the type that gets physically inserted into a reader.
• Ford is up front about the data they collect, both in the truck's settings page, and in their privacy policy. Very few people actually read them, but it's there. They are also similarly up front about you being able to turn off each category of data collection.
• Your mobile phone, regardless of whether or not it is a smart phone, and regardless of manufacturer or OS, is more than capable of very detailed and granular tracking. Every phone on every providers network MUST support e911 location capabilities, or they will refuse to activate them. That technology can support more uses than just e911, just as the microphone in a phone can be used for more than phone calls. This is not a conspiracy, it's modern technology making our lives overall easier. Even if you personally disagree with it, it's helped millions of people, and undoubtedly saved lives.

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