Oil and filter

[TimL]

I know there are many discussions, but hoping for a fresh perspective after nearly 4 years of members experience with Mav. So i have new 2024 XLT EcoBoost 2.0. Currently 1000 miles, considering initial oil change at about 3,500 miles. I've read a lot about the Pennzoil Ultra Premium. I'm in Pennsylvania - Q? 0w-20 or 5w-30? 2nd ?- oil filter? Any specific recommendations? Lastly, with the high-end synthetic oil is every 5,000 reasonable? Thanks for you expertise and advice! Happy Thanksgiving!

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[Tbone289]

Assuming you mean Penzoil Ultra Platinum, it will provide plenty of protection for a 5000 mile change interval. It meets or exceeds Ford specifications for a 5w-30 and likewise for the FL-910s Motorcraft filter.

 

[mavhopefull]

I've been using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum in my Ecoboost Maverick since the first oil change and always stick to a 5,000-mile interval. Advance Auto Parts consistently offers great deals on oil change bundles, making it cost-effective. I pair the oil with a Mobil 1 oil filter for optimal performance and reliability. This oil also exceeds the LSPI protection ratings that are needed for our Ecoboost engines.

 

[topgun/goose]

I was told by engineers many years ago that you should wait to switch to a full synthetic until the rings have had a chance to fully seat in. For instance the Cummins 6 cylinder diesel needed 20,000 miles breakin time before the switch. Would be interesting to hear from some experts on how many miles the eco and hybrid need for this action....

 

[Tbone289]

I was told by engineers many years ago that you should wait to switch to a full synthetic until the rings have had a chance to fully seat in. For instance the Cummins 6 cylinder diesel needed 20,000 miles breakin time before the switch. Would be interesting to hear from some experts on how many miles the eco and hybrid need for this action....

I'm not an expert, but many vehicles today are filled with full synthetic oil from the factory, and their rings fully seat in. I switched my Ecoboost to full synthetic at 750 miles and I can tell you that it is oil tight and there no signs on oil analysis of excessive fuel dilution.

 

[TimL]

Assuming you mean Penzoil Ultra Platinum, it will provide plenty of protection for a 5000 mile change interval. It meets or exceeds Ford specifications for a 5w-30 and likewise for the FL-910s Motorcraft filter.

Thanks for correcting me platinum! Is the motorcraft filter FL-910s is that what i should use as well? Thanks.

 

[Tbone289]

Thanks for correcting me platinum! Is the motorcraft filter FL-910s is that what i should use as well? Thanks.

The FL-910s has more than enough filtering capacity for a 5K oil change interval. You may be able to find a filter that has better filtering efficiency (down to a smaller micron level), but I've used the FL-910s for years and it has worked well for me.

 

[Darnon]

I was told by engineers many years ago that you should wait to switch to a full synthetic until the rings have had a chance to fully seat in. For instance the Cummins 6 cylinder diesel needed 20,000 miles breakin time before the switch. Would be interesting to hear from some experts on how many miles the eco and hybrid need for this action....

And conversely plenty of vehicles with synthetic factory fill. That synthetic somehow behaves differently negatively in regards to seal or break-in wear compared to conventional oil are all old voodoo.

 

[14mikey14]

You may want to consider changing your oil now. Lake Speed (Motor Oil Geek) is very knowledgeable and informative.

 

[CurtisB]

Based on this, one would have to change their oil every 500 miles till they hit 10,000 miles. Based on this video, the engine's main wear will be done by 10,000.

Personally, since first driving in 1974, I've never changed the oil in a new car at 500 miles. And on the cars I had, I have gone well over 100,000 thousand miles with no valve, rings, head or piston problems. No oil burning either. But, I'm not going to argue with the video.

 

[Tbone289]

There are many things I've done in the past that worked just fine. In none of those cases did that indicate that it was the best way it could be done.

 

[Jalopy Technology]

I was told by engineers many years ago that you should wait to switch to a full synthetic until the rings have had a chance to fully seat in. For instance the Cummins 6 cylinder diesel needed 20,000 miles breakin time before the switch. Would be interesting to hear from some experts on how many miles the eco and hybrid need for this action....

In today's engines the rings are broken in when the vehicle hits the transporter.

Gone are the days of cast iron 3/16" or 5/32nd" rings...today the rings are steel 1mm and 3mm...

 

[Jalopy Technology]

My oil and filter choices...

 

[14mikey14]

Based on this, one would have to change their oil every 500 miles till they hit 10,000 miles. Based on this video, the engine's main wear will be done by 10,000.

Personally, since first driving in 1974, I've never changed the oil in a new car at 500 miles. And on the cars I had, I have gone well over 100,000 thousand miles with no valve, rings, head or piston problems. No oil burning either. But, I'm not going to argue with the video.

Not every 500 miles until 10,000. He talks about lengthening the change intervals. More of the modern engines have smaller and smaller passages for the oil to pass through and so in other vehicles it might not have made a big difference. Some engines it is well worth it to get those metal particles out as soon as possible. And there will always be anecdotal instances where this process wasn't done and the engine lasts until the wheels fall off at 300-500k miles. I had a 2016 Toyota Tundra that I bought used and the maintenance records show the first oil change was around 5k miles. Did the engine run like new with 130k on it? Certainly. Older tech on that 5.7L V8 than in these small EB engines.

 

[14mikey14]

In today's engines the rings are broken in when the vehicle hits the transporter.

Gone are the days of cast iron 3/16" or 5/32nd" rings...today the rings are steel 1mm and 3mm...

Not entirely true about being broken in once they hit the transporter. Some vehicle makes and models are. Many are not. You'll know if it is broken in by sending an oil sample in for your first few oil changes. If the wear metals are decreasing and aren't staying flat, then it wasn't broken in before you took possession of it.

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